Or is EU the worst region at Val?
well yeah they have pretty big language barrier problems a lot of them are speaking a 2nd language in their teams. also they have a huge igl problem
aaaa420 [#4]apac isnt better lol
First of all, APAC is not the worst region. At least not definitely.
Second ,my flag is Taiwan so I would logically root for CN over APAC.
Third, I'm not even rooting for CN. I live in EU so I root for EU but I know damn well we're the weakest region rn
Prasinos [#7]Not really, statistically its pacific.
stats dont reflect modern times but overall. rn emea actually might be the weakest. think about last year apart from th and maybe kc in madrid u guys were probably only better than cn and this year u guys might be worse seeing EDG farms the entire region par th and other chinese teams are stronger now too
ParodyAccount [#8]First of all, APAC is not the worst region. At least not definitely.
Second ,my flag is Taiwan so I would logically root for CN over APAC.
Third, I'm not even rooting for CN. I live in EU so I root for EU but I know damn well we're the weakest region rn
apac has like 3 teams who should be elite this year (t1,gen g and prx) and everyone else is a total question mark just like in emea
zhongZHI [#10]stats dont reflect modern times but overall. rn emea actually might be the weakest. think about last year apart from th and maybe kc in madrid u guys were probably only better than cn and this year u guys might be worse seeing EDG farms the entire region par th and other chinese teams are stronger now too
delulu
Toph_ [#12]its clearly china... but then Emea
u have clear bias if u actually believe apac teams apart from the the top 3 are any better than emea lol
the best duelist in their region is minibum
that alone tells you how dogshit emea is
zhongZHI [#10]stats dont reflect modern times but overall. rn emea actually might be the weakest. think about last year apart from th and maybe kc in madrid u guys were probably only better than cn and this year u guys might be worse seeing EDG farms the entire region par th and other chinese teams are stronger now too
Why is china talking? Reality check incoming this season
aaaa420 [#11]apac has like 3 teams who should be elite this year (t1,gen g and prx) and everyone else is a total question mark just like in emea
for sure
saebr [#18]ohhh i see
because the thread was about emea being the worst region in valorant,and we all know americas is probably the most competitive so its really between apac,emea and china
objectively no and the ranking would depend on how you judge it.....if you value trophies and the top heavy teams then Americas is Number 1, but if you look at the region as a whole EMEA is clear Number 1 considering their Bottom/Mid level would dogwalk the other regions respective teams
rn yeah they are beyond terrible
its APAC > AMER > CN >>>>> EMEA as of rn
hopefully the AMER imports can fix the bum region lmao
aaaa420 [#14]u have clear bias if u actually believe apac teams apart from the the top 3 are any better than emea lol
Sure? Maybe last year with bleed ge dfm and zeta… but dfm looks significantly better zeta looks better boom looks better than bleed and ge looked better than they did last year at the very least. The majority of apac looks better than the majority of emea.
Toph_ [#23]Sure? Maybe last year with bleed ge dfm and zeta… but dfm looks significantly better zeta looks better boom looks better than bleed and ge looked better than they did last year at the very least. The majority of apac looks better than the majority of emea.
im talking about this year rrq,zeta,boom,ge,secret,dfm,talon,drx arent better than emea outside top 4 teams lol
aaaa420 [#24]im talking about this year rrq,zeta,boom,ge,secret,dfm,talon,drx arent better than emea outside top 4 teams lol
Wdym “better than Emea” yeah they’re not better than the entire region… is that??? Supposed to mean something?
Toph_ [#25]Wdym “better than Emea” yeah they’re not better than the entire region… is that??? Supposed to mean something?
yes?????? It means that theres no argument that outside the top 3 apac has any stronger teams than emea,the majority of apac isnt stronger than the majority of emea lol
I dunno I think its fun to see how these rosters work considering they have some well known players as imports in that league.
aaaa420 [#26]yes?????? It means that theres no argument that outside the top 3 apac has any stronger teams than emea,the majority of apac isnt stronger than the majority of emea lol
Okay? Literally what does that even mean no one’s claiming everyone apac team is better than the ENTIRETY of emea… like what? That doesn’t have to be the case to be a better region overall.
Toph_ [#28]Okay? Literally what does that even mean no one’s claiming everyone apac team is better than the ENTIRETY of emea… like what? That doesn’t have to be the case to be a better region overall.
yea but apac isnt the "better overall region" im saying this extremely clear,apac is not a more competitive region than emea currently,they have like 3/4 teams that should be good internationally,just like emea
x_knowitall39_x [#9]EU has too many challenger leagues
Large continent… no other option, else there’d be games with 80+ ping
aaaa420 [#29]yea but apac isnt the "better overall region" im saying this extremely clear,apac is not a more competitive region than emea currently,they have like 3/4 teams that should be good internationally,just like emea
Prx T1 Geng Drx Dfm and Nongshim should all be competitive internationally. Emea has 3 at best. APAC is significantly more competitive.
Prasinos [#7]Not really, statistically its pacific.
evidence pilled liberal spotted
zhongZHI [#10]stats dont reflect modern times but overall. rn emea actually might be the weakest. think about last year apart from th and maybe kc in madrid u guys were probably only better than cn and this year u guys might be worse seeing EDG farms the entire region par th and other chinese teams are stronger now too
Not really, stats do reflect at a region perfomance.
Last year pacific was being bottom most of the times (besides GenG).
Emea in other hand, don't.
Congo1 [#16]Why is china talking? Reality check incoming this season
ok stinky french boy. had a 3 year head start just to be carried by a na import
zhongZHI [#38]ok stinky french boy. had a 3 year head start just to be carried by a na import
the french are known for being stinky
aaaa420 [#11]apac has like 3 teams who should be elite this year (t1,gen g and prx) and everyone else is a total question mark just like in emea
prx in 2025
Prasinos [#36]Not really, stats do reflect at a region perfomance.
Last year pacific was being bottom most of the times (besides GenG).
Emea in other hand, don't.
stats as in trophy wins.
Toph_ [#33]Prx T1 Geng Drx Dfm and Nongshim should all be competitive internationally. Emea has 3 at best. APAC is significantly more competitive.
"dfm and nongshim" bro cmon
zhongZHI [#38]ok stinky french boy. had a 3 year head start just to be carried by a na import
bruh a chinese calling someone else stinky is crazy
Toph_ [#48]absolutely
absolutely not lmao,i can say kc and navi will do well internationally too
aaaa420 [#49]absolutely not lmao,i can say kc and navi will do well internationally too
Yeah I can say boom will do well internationally too except theirs no justification for that. Nongshim have been said to be destroying top teams in scrims and dfm has actually SHOWN in the off season they can compete with champs teams like trace and prx. All kc has shown is that can beat koi and navi... teams who also have no justification of being able to compete internationally.
Toph_ [#50]Yeah I can say boom will do well internationally too except theirs no justification for that. Nongshim have been said to be destroying top teams in scrims and dfm has actually SHOWN in the off season they can compete with champs teams like trace and prx. All kc has shown is that can beat koi and navi... teams who also have no justification of being able to compete internationally.
lmfaooo so dfm can compete internationally cause they had a random off season event of their lives against a out of form edg and prx,gentle mates won a bo3 against heretics too i guess that means they can also compete with champs teams lol,and pls ur really justifying nongshim cause they are good in scrims lol,they were 1 round away from losing ascension to boom and i swear if u say they are a competitive team i will just end this discussion
its always been this way and anyone who thinks otherwise is just delusion
aaaa420 [#51]lmfaooo so dfm can compete internationally cause they had a random off season event of their lives against a out of form edg and prx,gentle mates won a bo3 against heretics too i guess that means they can also compete with champs teams lol,and pls ur really justifying nongshim cause they are good in scrims lol,they were 1 round away from losing ascension to boom and i swear if u say they are a competitive team i will just end this discussion
M8 didn’t consistently do that Dfm did. Having a close game with boom doesn’t defeat that fact they STOMPED the two best team in emea in scrims when they were in CHAMPS FORM. Edg lost to wolve and drg prior to going to and winning champs lmao. So yes both dfm and nongshim have both proven they can compete internationally.
Toph_ [#53]M8 didn’t consistently do that Dfm did. Having a close game with boom doesn’t defeat that fact they STOMPED the two best team in emea in scrims when they were in CHAMPS FORM. Edg lost to wolve and drg prior to going to and winning champs lmao. So yes both dfm and nongshim have both proven they can compete internationally.
congrats u can find plenty of teams who have "stomped" top teams in scrims and it doesnt translate that literally doesnt mean shit ur absolutely clueless if u think it does,dfm winning against edg who legit trolled all off season events and prx who were playing braindead in the start doesnt mean as much as u think it does lol
aford277 [#40]prx in 2025
the maps are looking pretty good for them realistically
TwentySeven [#52]its always been this way and anyone who thinks otherwise is just delusion
Need to know why NA loses a lot to EU then
aaaa420 [#54]congrats u can find plenty of teams who have "stomped" top teams in scrims and it doesnt translate that literally doesnt mean shit ur absolutely clueless if u think it does,dfm winning against edg who legit trolled all off season events and prx who were playing braindead in the start doesnt mean as much as u think it does lol
Yeah well the both mean more than Navi doing literally nothing and kc doing nothing but beating koi. Cope.
Toph_ [#58]Yeah well the both mean more than Navi doing literally nothing and kc doing nothing but beating koi. Cope.
doesn't mean much more than pure speculation but if u wanna do that go for it,ur showing u havent watched this game by putting so much weight on things like scrims and small off season tourney lol
aaaa420 [#59]doesn't mean much more than pure speculation but if u wanna do that go for it,ur showing u havent watched this game by putting so much weight on things like scrims and small off season tourney lol
Yeah, if you think that inaccurate to do you're clueless.
Toph_ [#60]Yeah, if you think that inaccurate to do you're clueless.
lmaooo