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#1
kingbass

This thread is for non - Indians
What's the main reason you don't like India?
1- GE's performance
2- Toxic, immature fans

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botssi 🗿

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i think theres other reasons but i dont like global esports because i hear a lot of them although they dont win very much. it would be like if i always heard input about bbl or mibr

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and I am pretty sure whatever you heard regarding GE is mostly negative right?

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kanyefan4238173
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yeah mostly about the team being terrible and how much the owner sucks and stuff

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kingbass
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XD

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kanyenum1fan
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I thought bbl is good though

#105
kanyefan4238173
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theyre okay but overall in franchising theyve been pretty bad. similar to global. but i hear wayyyyy more about global. even now that bbl is decent

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johnqtgoat
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toxicity

#9
bronzil_enjoyer
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a great song by system of a down

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ohnyfans
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soad mentioned 🗣️🔥🔥

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number1_cNed_fan
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Botssi

#10
Anguibok
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Well I still like India, (even if last time I tried to interact with me I just receive toxicity, and a -3 in a post where I said I hope India become a T1 region in 10 years)

Still hoping you got a T1 region soon

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kingbass
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Yup for sure

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Greyash
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Both, the scouting talent is .... idk its good or bad since they recruited texture and monyet. The first year GE is trolling have all duelist in 1 team, the second year they bring 3 igl with 1 duelist and the ex duelist in the previous year who barely play. With their fans which is easily manipulated as I have seen from time to time, and the pressure they have given to their own team ends up in limiting their players potential. Just imagining as their player I will be spammed by countless harsh massage when I lose a game or perform badly 😭 dude it's a nightmare

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it wasnt that troll last year, it was troll not making it a long term project, making questionable role selections idc about texture on kj bro was still good but forcing rossi on jett was not it, trolling with a 7 man roster, when they finally settled and chose the 5 they wanted, they lost 2-0 to rrq in a close game (not blaming rossi completely but if they had lf instead of him they prolly wouldve beaten rrq).

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kingbass
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I guess they wanted to continue with that roster with minor changes
But it had some internal issues, we don't know about
Also Monyet got offer from PaperRex which just broke the whole team

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Al-Mawsil
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internal issues was that the great players wanted better teams which is fair

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peaceout
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sp0n and pigtime supremacy

#99
gr1ef
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t3xture asked for more salary but owner refused and for monyet they got themselves a nice deal

#107
Greyash
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You said it wasn't troll and then you said it's troll, why going around saying the same thing bro XD

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Al-Mawsil
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bro u are some stupid, the guy said it was troll having 5 duelist on one team. I said that wasnt troll it was how they managed the boys that was troll. Read dumbass or be quiet

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Read your own comment mf, it's still in the same context of trolling. U don't even understand what are u talking about, they are still trolling with everything they have even right now with the current roster

#119
Al-Mawsil
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ye i agree with you

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After
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GE is just a little cringe. doing a "global" team. I just dislike not having a full indian team and giving indian talent a shot on the big stage. I don't care if they win or lose really I'm not indian but I would feel butt hurt too if the ONLY org from my country fields an entire roster of non native people. Wasnt RRQ trying to do something similar at start of franchising and they got so much hate from their indo community that they rolled back the roster changes.

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kingbass
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But you must also realize that India is not currently a competitive region.
Even I would like to watch Indian players on stage, but not if they are going to lose every match like DFM

The best Indian team with 2 imports (from Phillipines) literally dominated the whole region last year, they hardly lost one or two Bo3.
Then, the same team (who dominated VCSA) just lost 0-4 in the group stage of Ascension.

This is not Olympics or World Cup
You have to be practical before being nationalistic

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nobody___100
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as long as the players can learn its doable
look at EG
3.5 bums with derrek and jawgemo, still won against sen and nrg
kc is 4 rookies, th is 3 rookies + sub, geng found a guy from ranked, etc

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I feel like this isn't a fair comparison. the amount and quality of scrims that south asian teams get are nowhere near the same as the ones that even t2 t3 na or emea teams get. I mean, look at the talent drought in south american teams. they hardly come close in terms of talent pool compared to their na counterparts.
ofc this is all speculation on my part, but it makes the most sense on why things are the way they are.

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Al-Mawsil
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bro t2 NA/EMEA hard clears SA. Also the coaches on eg, geng and kc are top tier.

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Invic_Deep
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I think we all obsess with stats a little too much but honestly Orangutan's ascension run wasn't as bad as 0-4 suggests.
They took maps off team which eventually ended top 3 and Bleed even won it all.
Also it must be noted Azys was ill and he never really could play to his potential that time.
Rvk was not the same back then ,he was in major slump.
I think after certain point of time their mental wasn't good enough and Rawfiul's consistency was big factor in them winning maps or getting rolled over.
I pretty firmly believe that if you put the same team in league with actual coach they will eventually become competitive.

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kingbass
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Sure, but still, they would not have qualified for the playoffs even if they had won some matches.
I would love to see the SA team perform well this year.

But players have to show they are capable of performing well outside India
They can't wait and hope for GE to take them just because they are Indian
Just give the results and data, of course not only GE but many teams will want to take him

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Invic_Deep
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I watched it far too closely let me tell you something they would hv qualified if they had 2-0 bonker last match lol

#96
kingbass
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LMAO
Just see this again
DPLUS could not qualify even after 2-2
How can OG?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1652/champions-tour-2023-pacific-ascension/group-stage

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Invic_Deep
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yeah mb I meant if they had one last map against DIA they could hv 2-0 Bonkers and qualified
bcz then both DIA and Bonkers would hv been 1-4

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Getsyuga
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That same team is getting kicked by every other team rn, I'd say things will change this season. I'd say instead of last, we'll at least reach the 5-6th spot.

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kingbass
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They just won the last LAN
And that also without losing a single map
WTF are you saying
Don't talk about Split 2, Anti was a big reason for their success

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Invic_Deep
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They are getting kicked around bcz their org messed them over. No 5th , Anti leaving, players on 100 ping, Rawfiul having worst time in his career.
When they were able to hv proper bootcamp in split 2 , they rawdogged every team on LAN.
Whoever will qualify for ascension from our country can't even take 15 rounds from them when they all play on equal footing

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What about Cup 1 and the Qualifying rounds? RNT went undefeated yet lost. TR tried hard yet lost. MLT was just better that day IMO, or the other teams were just worse. I am damn sure whatever team qualifies split 2 will at least get 5-6th spot. If TS won a game against PRX once, that doesn't make them the better team.

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I agree with you that whoever qualifies will get 5-6th this year its just that its my personal opinion that if any team in VCSA is capable of placing higher its that EG OG MLT core.
Regarding CUP 1 same issue they were bootcamped at dubai so were at disadvantage with no fixed 5th again. They played with Doxxer, Tranz and Whimp a match each since they couldnt secure excali back then.
I would agree abt them being better just for a day if I hadn't seen them do it every LAN time and again for years now. The MLT that played LAN was much more cleaner fundamentally than the grp stage MLT while both RNT and TR only bought new comps but no new strats to playoffs from grp stage. And as you must have noticed Paradox and Skrossi forget to aim whenever they reach LAN but were still ego fighting MLT which led to such destructive loss. If RNT played with discpline I am sure match would hv been closer since they had good firepower too.

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Getsyuga
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You are right imo, but people pointed or rossi for his inconsistency when he played in franchise, even though his highs were better than what polvi has. Well, if RNT has a good day, all other teams are done imo

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anyth1ng
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0nd0a

#15
ButterflyEffect23
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dawg can you behave normally for a second

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anyth1ng
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i always do im the realest in this place 🐐🔥💯🏴‍☠️

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bronzil_enjoyer
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when India is on trending topics on twitter i always see the most unbelievable things that a human being can do.

#19
kingbass
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Not defending India but I have seen similar things from many regions including brazil
I guess every country have such animals and nothing can be done about it

#20
Hyssopus1
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All good bro i don't think this is a "india" problem i just think that in a country of 1.4B people its impossible not to have those kind of people.

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ShuGo
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They need to do 5 Indians, fuck the rest

#22
kingbass
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see #7
:-/

#24
ButterflyEffect23
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I like India tbh and I wish India could succeed, Indian fanbase is very passionate

But to me, it feels like with this managerial staff GE won't get anywhere. The coaching is fraudulent, they fumbled Monyet+t3xture, couldn't use the talent properly

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Xntlla
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just pure racism

#27
Xntlla
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for legal reason this is a joke!!!!

#29
BrotherMan
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its because

#30
SquareMars
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lowkey GE's performance, not a lot of indians on this site

#39
Invic_Deep
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Trust me there are lot , all of them hv fake flags for whatever reason

#31
badutsirkus
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  1. ge's ceo
  2. same like here, the dumb ones are loud that's a given
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Zeah
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sleepybear

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bearmans
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i don't really care about the team's performance whatsoever. i care about the well being of the players and the staffs. though i do want sp0n and b0gt0me to be replaced, i don't bear any malice to them. i hate GE fans for that reason.

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The only reason Polvi is in GE rn, and Rossi got kicked is because Sp0n was with Polvi in his previous team, so they got him after removing both Rossi and Texture lmao. They even traded Monyet for Benkai lmao. The only good and meaningful addition IMO is Russ. I'm not supporting any kill threats given to players, but the trolling and criticism is needed. Benkai droned twice in a fucking 1v1 again TS, like as a passionate GE supported from 2021, I hate to see them in such spot. Other than GE, a team called VLT was also eligible for T1 contract, but Valo chose GE for some reason, I think if VLT was taken, we'd have a better chance of getting more indian players in the league. Also, unlike GE's CEO who hates Indians, I don't think VLT's CEO shares that same sentiments.

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bearmans
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the memes and trolling are okay, the death threats are not.
also GE had the same scenario with RRQ. if riot used their brain a lil bit they would've chosen ONIC G or BOOM esports since they are THE indonesian valo team. alas, they chose clout numbers than competency.

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GE made it to T1 because of their run in vcl South Asia and they qualified for the all the APAC events
VLT didn't make it because of the comments their co-owner passed on the people who constantly brought Xhade's name to his stream
VLT signed him and later xhade confessed that he was hacking
The video of vet's owner
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ALfPoyZ3s&pp=ygUkdmVsb2NpdHkgb3duZXIgc2VudGluZWwgY29udHJvdmVyc3kg

#81
peaceout
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what well being ,if u r player ,u should have that mental to take .other wise don't play.it was imature from players side,after losing they are posting like they done something great.

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bearmans
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if the "fans" didn't implode and cummed all over them they wouldve been chilling all day.
they do take criticism btw. what they don't take is these fans wanted to harm them.

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VoiD03
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They way some of yall worship cricketers - "King" Kohli and bring down others at the same time

#50
rStellar
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this aint even related

#34
Corny
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I actually wanna go to india one day cuz nature

#35
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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I love India, Q0T0R robbed them a World Cup debut

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ahdd
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imagine saying would qualify to world cup, even if they qualify to round 3 they wouldn't even touch round 4.

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ALoKi007
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So you cheat?

#36
ASTEROIDCHILD
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i fuck with india the country ive been there before and had a great time even tho the heat made me want to kms

that said i do not fuck with indians on the internet because i feel like socialization wise most are mad weird at worst and just unfunny at best

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nobody___100
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facts, as an indian american indians piss me off online consistently

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alpine007
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naaa seems like its just vlr. ive had sooo many chats with indians, pakistanis, Iraqis and theyre chill asf. only issue is that people on vlr and twitter kinda brainded. most are pretty chill

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Wronghand
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GE took texture and threw him on KJ for SKRossi to play Jett. I don't hate india, I hate on GE for trying to be a gimmick roster. If you are going to be a bad team, then at least help develop your scene. Is a team like DFM the best? No, but they are doing their best by repersenting and fielding from their own region. At least with Bleed I can see the potential and what they wanted from the roster, I just can't imagine the potential from either of the GE abominations they created.

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Rossi fragged on a few few games tho, and it was because they couldn't make him play senti as Rossi was not in Korea, that's why both LF and Rossi played Duelist last season. If they had kept the last roster, things would have been better, LF is doing great, Ayrin was great IGL, Texture is Amazing(understatement), Monyet is goated, and Rossi is currently playing Flex in SA rn, so he could've fit right in. But, the management sucks. Also the coaches suck. It sucks that they didn't get Onur or Enghe who were both free at that time, Onur even approached Ge, but was ignored.

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ihatewestjett
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Word.exe

#41
Rikkumi
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Delulu, the idea of 5man india is blow my mind

#42
ALoKi007
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I would go for the 2nd option.
These mfs are so competitive like give GE sometime idiots.
You guys are calm as shit when watching PUBG tournaments then why the fuck don't you be patient for this game as well.
If you don't like watching them just quit valorant why become so toxic.
(This is not just for Indian fans it's for all the fans who think they look cool when they spread toxicity)

FUCK YOU

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kingbass
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for real

#43
DeyahAlAjarma
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Rb isnt on the team

#45
TakoSaki
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cause indian valorant isnt exactly a developed esport, and im australian so im pissed that we didnt get a franchised team and GE did

#46
SleepyBear
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true we could have Master Sydney and shi, also Indo oce is near the Crowd will be fcking insane

fuck india

#51
TakoSaki
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masters sydney would go so hard, but atp ill even take masters singapore

#55
SleepyBear
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nah Singapore is a bad place to held an event, I went there once at TI 10 I bought a small burger and its fcking $15

#83
Luckyperson
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robbed

#47
Rikkumi
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No viewership from australia

#48
SleepyBear
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india also have no viewership is not that big tbh, Vietnam Clears

#49
Rikkumi
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this is fact, vietnam community growing big rn

#73
Getsyuga
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More People
More Viewership
More Popularity
More Money

You forgot that Valorant Mobile is coming soon, and that game would wreak havoc in India and SEA countries. If Valorant is already in a good spot in India, it'd be easier for them to dive into the very competitive mobile gaming scene in India. They even have some kind of operational HQ based in Mumbai just for Valorant.

Instead of giving Japan 2 slots, one should've been given to Australia. Both the Japanese team are Mid-Low tier, one is worse than GE.

#53
lielahh
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haduya ra 2

#56
MrShadow
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I don't hate india or global esports. just laughing at the org for what they are doing.
not fielding a 5 indian man roster is a good thing coz indian did not have the background. by background, I meant the higher competition. so Skrossi, who farmed there, failed hard in the real competition. LF managed to be stable a bit.
the thing is, the org clowned and baited their entire fanbase for months by hinting at bigger names and asking for retweets and stuff. and proceed to announce a bunch of mediocre players. so even before the results, fans were devastated. and after the results, well we are seeing the results all over the X.

#74
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Rossi failing hard is a very overstatement, he farmed GenG last year easily, and gave a tough competition to both PRX and DRX.
The problem was never Rossi, but the fact that he couldn't assimilate with the team as he couldn't reach Korea timely, also the immense pressure given to him by Indian fans, probably made it harder on him, which made him incosistent. PRX is going through the same thing rn.

Rather than taking random players who are not cohesive, I'd say GE should take the roster of whatever Indian team that reaches Ascension.
What you say about the org holds.

#57
SleepyBear
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every time india have argument they always come out with RACISM card

its so Cringe

#60
kingbass
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This post is not for such excuses
I just wanted to know people's opinions and show people the true picture.

Some people in India say, "India has no respect cause GE loses."
Instead, the truth is the opposite, proved by comments on this thread.

#63
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the truth is the opposite ? lmfao what are u talking about,

The truth is that many of the comments in this thread are facts, thats the truth

and thats was the real picture of you guys

#77
kingbass
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Thats what I am saying brotha wtf are you smoking rn

#78
fun_at_the_waterslide
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I don't think he cares about what u say, he just wants you to be wrong 😭

#92
FDWC-
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classic

you just can't argue with this guy

in his eyes everyone is wrong and he's the only one is right 😂

#79
SleepyBear
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oo my bad gang

#112
ALoKi007
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You are sleepy kiddo 💀

#62
Aayan
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No. 2 ngl. Most of y'all are fine but there is a VERY vocal minority who are just mindlessly toxic for no reason

Every team will go through a bad phase at some point so I can overlook that
I don't really fw the whole 'global' gimmick but ill be real I don't care enough to say more on it

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I was watching GE in 2023 because ABCD + Ayrin my XSET goat, and it was the most tilting experience of my life, because it felt like every single time they played the answer was just to fuckin throw Sk off the team stick lightningfast in, and boom goated team now.

And the coaching staff was so fucking braindamaged that they kept putting sk on a role that EVERYBODY KNEW HE COULDNT PLAY AT THE TIER ONE LEVEL.

This year after the roster moves showing they truly don't care about winning, I'm just done with the org, team, and especially the management. Fuck GE, fuck rushindra, and fuck riot for having this garbage fake indian org for acting like they have some semblance of knowing whats going on

#72
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I had the same mentality as yours, if GE content PR had let Lightningman played in place of skrossi and texture on jett, it could have done things up and right !!!

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falsefy
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For pro play -> I kinda dislike how GE is just going full international instead of only having 1-2 import. GE getting into franchising now doesn't have any impact don't India eSport situation since they only have 1 Indian anyway.

For comp and regular play -> A lot of Indian I meet in SG are super toxic and IGL wannbes. I appreciate you want to try IGL, but I don't need you micromanaging my ass.
Basically
->Indian does a call
->1 Person doesn't do the call exactly how he wants it
-> LISTEN TO ME LISTEN TO ME, YOU NEED TO LISTEN! YOU LISTEN WE WIN.
-> listened to him, lost the round
-> Throw and blame it on us

I'd rather you shut up and just play the game

#91
Rebellion2408
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Honestly you're 200% right about the ranked aspect. It's primarily a reason why I started playing in SG server(It's only 40ms for me) as they're pretty chill and they don't micromanage stuff a lot. If you see in Mumbai server, all idiots just think they're fuckin FNS or whoever and gives a braindead call, then they proceed to blame us and shout in our fuckin ear. It's why I decided I'll play in SG servers itself, even if some games does have people who are racist towards me(Thankfully I didn't have such an experience). Sorry you had to deal with the Indians who bring their toxic selves to SG servers.

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mycool57
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don't like
-nasty
-horny ass both in public and internet

like
-their cringe video made me laugh a lot such as doing backflip and failed in front of a girl, nasty food serving and their loose head.

#82
i11matic
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Their smell 🤢

#113
ALoKi007
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wtf 😂

#84
IonlywatchvcjXD
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2

#88
Kiwi954
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I was supporting Global last year because of Wronski, but they made terrible decisions one after another and fumbled a good roster. They made Rossy play dualist, but every player except Ayrin could've played that role better than him. Then during lcq the coaching staff, felt like they literally don't have any plays or anti-starts. They were just defaulting every round on attack with Skrossy on operator, and when they failed miserably, they scapegoated Skrossy, saying he's not a team player, and still the owner is sticking with that fraud coach.

#89
Mr_S1NIST3R
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only reason i hate india is cause of braindead toxic botssi dickriders . im indian and im ashamed to keep india flag bruh

#90
g_torrance
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  1. GE, cringe content, cringe management:
    -CEO is a crypto guy in 2024 and he feels he's close with anyone, EXCEPT the GE fans KEKW
    -All of GE management seems to be the same, all cringe on the internet, I've muted all GE management trying too hard to look cool
  2. Fans are too passionate and entitled, justifying being toxic to players because they feel entitled to "criticize" because they've been "supporting long enough"
    • of course every fanbase are toxic, but GE seems to be the opposite- having a toxic majority
    • is brazil toxic also? yes probably but they have their own world so who cares
#97
KyLZi
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People think Indian fans are toxic. Some are, probably more than usual, but most aren't toxic, like any region.

#98
grudge
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btw this dude is a GE employee

#100
KnoxNarendra
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Mf is crying everywhere lol get a life GE Meat Rider

#109
Cu55Ku55_______
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I really don't hate GE

The problem is I can't stop laughing because they somehow make worse decisions than Team Secrete

#111
Utolevia
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Is this thread about why people hate GE or India? See most people talking about GE when OP asked the latter.

I don't hate indians but I hate their choice of colors and design. My relative used to work in an Indian-run company and when they renovated the office, CEO wanted bright orange carpets and blue walls to match corporate colours. I mean, GE's logo itself is the embodiment of toothpaste colours

#114
kamisavitar
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i mean India is quite diverse country, so these things happens.
abt GE yes there Logo and colours both shit.
There r good ones like VLT/RNT too.

#116
Schneefeuer1
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im just racist 😀

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