Luckiest pro players to win a major

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yawnster

These are some of the pros who won a major trophy out of sheer luck in my humblest truthful opinion

Gambit Redgar (Carried by the rest of GMB and Engh, look at him in GX now)

Bonercold (Carried by prime Cned and Zeek)
Starxo (Carried by prime Cned and Zeek)
Kiles (Carried by prime Cned and Zeek)

Entire roster of Optic at Reykjavik 2022 (No FPX + Chamber era, look at y0y now 😂😂)

Fnatic Boaster at lock in and Tokyo (Carried by 4 mechanical beasts and now that the shooters are in a slump, his igling is getting exposed)

EG c0m (Lurking merchant, whole team is dead and this man will still be lurking through spawn, Carried by Semen1)

EG Boosted (Sheriff Merchant who sucks balls without his hard carry as proved in 100T vs Sentinels)

SEN Zellshit (Vibrator Merchant, by far the worst in terms of mechanical performance in the whole squad and it isn't close)

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ZettGundam

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but Optic made top 3 every event in 2022 tho

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yawnster

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Im not talking about those two tournaments tho am I.

FPX were the number 1 eu team who could not attend Reykjavik and we all know how FPX destroyed them in the copenhagen.

Therefore it is still a fraudulent win for that tournament

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Psion

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you can't call something fradulent because europeans couldn't make it because of something Europe started.

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Mozzarellas

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So if america started the war it would be fraudulent?

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Psion

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wdym? if we declared war on an EU country like ukraine? or like if we say started a war with mexico?

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Tf are you on about. Valorant isn't about politics. If fpx were from any other country and they made it they would've won, that's the fucking point.
No one gives a shit what the reason they couldn't make it was cause the reality is THEY DIDNT MAKE IT ☠️
Dumbasses left and right on vlr istg

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meadows

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Ahh yes, the classic “they would have won!!” cope. Unfortunately for you, they didn’t go and therefore did NOT win. Optic will always be the Reykjavik Masters champions, hope this helps!

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Nilonesia

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This logic is dumb.
Did FPX win Champs?
No, so it means they weren’t guaranteed to win.

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Psion

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bro they were not guranteed a win
they've never beaten LOUD so they'd of lost to them if they made grand finals of the event more than likely.
the second best team of the event was G2 which got SIXTH internationally, and FPX were not 5 international spots better than G2

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starxo was a clutch player though

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TheAceGamer30

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I think him having to igl is bringing down his skill a lot

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true

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I mean zellsis already got 4-0 from paper rex it's self

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TheAceGamer30

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Zellsis in this list is invalid

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TheArcticArcher

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Howd u forget zombs

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Typer

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Zombs was good that time, i believe he was their clutch player for first masters

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TheAceGamer30

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zombs was good

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yawnster

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Nah Zombs was valid for Reykjavik 2021 but immediately fell off once other teams knew how to play the game

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where is kiles now?

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TheAceGamer30

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in tier 2 team like zeek

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case esports

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fnaticENJOYER

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every player in this list deserved their championship u bozo

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TheAceGamer30

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Facts

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JustHunterM8

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Ngl this list is pretty accurate as to who was carried to a win but I do agree that everyone on this list (apart from maybe kiles) deserves their win

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fnaticENJOYER

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there's no such thing as "carried" in tier 1 imo, metas change, playstyles change, players get outdated but that doesnt necessarily make them bad and lucky to win the trophy that too masters at a certain time.

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major winner is not good enough
but runner look worse

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2021 Redgar was insane and Gambit wouldnt win anything without him (prime nAts would 1v5 still but you know what i mean)

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yawnster

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I was so happy when he joined Liquid but Im getting more and more disillusioned the more I see him play...

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You're confusing a player being washed now with a player not being good when they won

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Gutssz

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you have Enzo bro, 0 difference

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Enzo's calling > Redgar

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yawnster

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You got val knowledge

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Mortadelo

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If you think 2 players can carry a group of 3 bad players to win champions you're absolutely delusional

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Psion

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yeah starxo played servicable at worst and good at best, the other 2 though

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Mortadelo

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Still, 2 great players and a serviceable one do not carry 2 terrible players to win champs

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Psion

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in general, nope, outside of like those players being less aspas and saadhak, or extremely rare circumstances
and its very arguable those circumstances were rare
KRU vs GMB felt like the real finals when watching it, GMB were prob burnt out by the end of it
the whole Vivo keyd controversy, and victor shitting the bed
easiest path to the finals in playoffs(X10, C9, FNC >>>> TS & Kru >>>>>> TL)
no double elim

its definitely something you CAN argue

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Mortadelo

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Are you trying to imply Sacy and Pancada were bad players when LOUD won?? I hope I'm understanding wrong

Also you do know at that time TL had owned KRU about a thousand different times they could never beat them. They owned hard that tournament people have only criticized it after because of how hard they fell off, but at the time absolutely no one called it a fluke because at the time they were the best there was (Obiously not player by player)

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no no no im not saying that. Im saying they COULD be able to carry 2 terrible players and win an event, not that they did(i love sacy and pancada).

to me, the eye test said KRU yielded better than TL at champs outside the initial h2h matchup where TL did diff KRU
statistics back this
vs SEN, TL were -6 and KRU were -2 on rounds
in playoffs, KRU were -1 on rounds and TL were -10
this is

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Mortadelo

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Ig you can make that case if you feel like but I just think the time and what has happened after is affecting your perception of how good that Acend team actually was

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Psion

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i mean im only really arguing it as a devil's advocate or for the sake of it (hence "its definitely something you CAN argue") but at the time i thought both KRU and GMB would beat acend

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I think it's actually a pretty common perception to think Acend flukes

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Psion

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i was never arguing whether it was a fluke though was I?

continue thread →

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shaaidem

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bro how sad is ur life to create a hate thread, u couldnt be more delusional

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yawnster

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Unbiased opinion = hate thread

Womp womp

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shaaidem

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it is hateful when u call luck winning a major, no player wins a major being bad nor by pure luck, u cant say how valuable a player is when u dont even know what he brings to the team, the game is more than the numbers u look at after game

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cboomer

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don't listen to this dude starxo had the most kills in the finals

these guys are super casuals man

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HLZeron

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Lost me at Optic. Fraud because they played with meta and Emea was too shit to show up???? Emea didn't make a top 2 finish the whole year. Are you retarded?

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they win in Copenhagen tho?

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cscheater

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demon1 is the most obvious answer

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Itsover

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demon1 was by far the best player at champs 23.

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Saying boostio was carried is mad crazy, he was INSANE at EG bro u cannot lie

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Bald_man

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saying zellsis is crazy considering how many clutches he's won and important kills he got
you have 0 idea what you are talking about

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cNoob

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flames-leleo

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Does EG bench count as luck?

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yawnster

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I completely forgot about them but yes also

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EG doesn't win champs without their reserve roster to scrim against. Anything but luck, they contributed massively

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I have too disagree with you in this one

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only valid take was Kiles (defo the weak link on the team)
other than that all L takes

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I agree with everything else besides Zellsis. OpTic did get lucky FPX full roster wasn't there but who cares, NA is better.
Zellsis on the other hand helped SEN so much. SEN won Madrid because of Zellsis and Johnqt, don't care what anyone thinks or says. Tenz also stepped up too as well.

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oh hey yawnster

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yawnster

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Bye bye 🤫🧏

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have i just been mogged

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feaN

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Major is in CS bro
Masters and Champions is what you mean, but please dont call it a Major since CS Major is 3000x times better than these mickey mouse tournaments

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"Sheriff merchant" is one of the most confusing labels ive ever seen on my life.

Who WOULDN'T want a Sheriff demon on their team that can win them huge thrifties?

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yawnster

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Good with Sheriff, absolutely mid with every other weapon except maybe the stinger

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yukky

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lulquid

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Denjisideals

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Now let's look at Team Liquid's Major winning roster

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yawnster

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Let's not lil bro

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Me when i only look at kills and not to anything else at all and then rant about it on my silly forums (i agree with kiles tho)

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And kiles was also a huge factor for their mental so you cant even count him

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back then Acend won that tournament because of team play, you can't say cned and zeek carried that hard. cned played with 0.98 rating in that final, zeek also had bad games. Also, Acend won the tournament because there was not any really good team out there, but win is win so they all deserved.

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Booster - Got carried by 4 exceptionally good players.

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ange0

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Yea i don't know about this list breh this year sen without zellsis prolly wouldn't have won shit ngl he changed the dynamic in the team

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L take with boaster

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yawnster

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I am the sole unbiased voice of reason in the sea of shit spilling liars on this site

Sorry vro 😶‍🌫️

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ntro

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wrong thats me

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listing igls in this is so funny

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agree with everything except for optic, how dare you insult my wonderful pookie jaccob whiteaker