Luckiest pro players to win a major

These are some of the pros who won a major trophy out of sheer luck in my humblest truthful opinion

Gambit Redgar (Carried by the rest of GMB and Engh, look at him in GX now)

Bonercold (Carried by prime Cned and Zeek)
Starxo (Carried by prime Cned and Zeek)
Kiles (Carried by prime Cned and Zeek)

Entire roster of Optic at Reykjavik 2022 (No FPX + Chamber era, look at y0y now 😂😂)

Fnatic Boaster at lock in and Tokyo (Carried by 4 mechanical beasts and now that the shooters are in a slump, his igling is getting exposed)

EG c0m (Lurking merchant, whole team is dead and this man will still be lurking through spawn, Carried by Semen1)

EG Boosted (Sheriff Merchant who sucks balls without his hard carry as proved in 100T vs Sentinels)

SEN Zellshit (Vibrator Merchant, by far the worst in terms of mechanical performance in the whole squad and it isn't close)

but Optic made top 3 every event in 2022 tho

starxo was a clutch player though

ZettGundam [#2]

but Optic made top 3 every event in 2022 tho

Im not talking about those two tournaments tho am I.

FPX were the number 1 eu team who could not attend Reykjavik and we all know how FPX destroyed them in the copenhagen.

Therefore it is still a fraudulent win for that tournament

I mean zellsis already got 4-0 from paper rex it's self

Zellsis in this list is invalid

number1_cNed_fan [#3]

starxo was a clutch player though

I think him having to igl is bringing down his skill a lot

Howd u forget zombs

where is kiles now?

TheArcticArcher [#8]

Howd u forget zombs

Zombs was good that time, i believe he was their clutch player for first masters

TheArcticArcher [#8]

Howd u forget zombs

zombs was good

Typer [#9]

where is kiles now?

in tier 2 team like zeek

every player in this list deserved their championship u bozo

fnaticENJOYER [#13]

every player in this list deserved their championship u bozo

Facts

major winner is not good enough
but runner look worse

TheArcticArcher [#8]

Howd u forget zombs

Nah Zombs was valid for Reykjavik 2021 but immediately fell off once other teams knew how to play the game

2021 Redgar was insane and Gambit wouldnt win anything without him (prime nAts would 1v5 still but you know what i mean)

Gutssz [#17]

2021 Redgar was insane and Gambit wouldnt win anything without him (prime nAts would 1v5 still but you know what i mean)

I was so happy when he joined Liquid but Im getting more and more disillusioned the more I see him play...

yawnster [#4]

Im not talking about those two tournaments tho am I.

FPX were the number 1 eu team who could not attend Reykjavik and we all know how FPX destroyed them in the copenhagen.

Therefore it is still a fraudulent win for that tournament

you can't call something fradulent because europeans couldn't make it because of something Europe started.

If you think 2 players can carry a group of 3 bad players to win champions you're absolutely delusional

yawnster [#18]

I was so happy when he joined Liquid but Im getting more and more disillusioned the more I see him play...

You're confusing a player being washed now with a player not being good when they won

yawnster [#18]

I was so happy when he joined Liquid but Im getting more and more disillusioned the more I see him play...

you have Enzo bro, 0 difference

Mortadelo [#20]

If you think 2 players can carry a group of 3 bad players to win champions you're absolutely delusional

yeah starxo played servicable at worst and good at best, the other 2 though

Psion [#19]

you can't call something fradulent because europeans couldn't make it because of something Europe started.

So if america started the war it would be fraudulent?

Mozzarellas [#24]

So if america started the war it would be fraudulent?

wdym? if we declared war on an EU country like ukraine? or like if we say started a war with mexico?

bro how sad is ur life to create a hate thread, u couldnt be more delusional

Gutssz [#22]

you have Enzo bro, 0 difference

Enzo's calling > Redgar

Lost me at Optic. Fraud because they played with meta and Emea was too shit to show up???? Emea didn't make a top 2 finish the whole year. Are you retarded?

demon1 is the most obvious answer

TheAceGamer30 [#7]

I think him having to igl is bringing down his skill a lot

true

Psion [#19]

you can't call something fradulent because europeans couldn't make it because of something Europe started.

Tf are you on about. Valorant isn't about politics. If fpx were from any other country and they made it they would've won, that's the fucking point.
No one gives a shit what the reason they couldn't make it was cause the reality is THEY DIDNT MAKE IT ☠️
Dumbasses left and right on vlr istg

cscheater [#29]

demon1 is the most obvious answer

demon1 was by far the best player at champs 23.

Saying boostio was carried is mad crazy, he was INSANE at EG bro u cannot lie

fnaticENJOYER [#13]

every player in this list deserved their championship u bozo

Ngl this list is pretty accurate as to who was carried to a win but I do agree that everyone on this list (apart from maybe kiles) deserves their win

HLZeron [#28]

Lost me at Optic. Fraud because they played with meta and Emea was too shit to show up???? Emea didn't make a top 2 finish the whole year. Are you retarded?

they win in Copenhagen tho?

saying zellsis is crazy considering how many clutches he's won and important kills he got
you have 0 idea what you are talking about

cNoob

Does EG bench count as luck?

I have too disagree with you in this one

flames-leleo [#38]

Does EG bench count as luck?

I completely forgot about them but yes also

shaaidem [#26]

bro how sad is ur life to create a hate thread, u couldnt be more delusional

Unbiased opinion = hate thread

Womp womp

zahin1018 [#27]

Enzo's calling > Redgar

You got val knowledge

only valid take was Kiles (defo the weak link on the team)
other than that all L takes

shaaidem [#26]

bro how sad is ur life to create a hate thread, u couldnt be more delusional

don't listen to this dude starxo had the most kills in the finals

these guys are super casuals man

JustHunterM8 [#31]

Tf are you on about. Valorant isn't about politics. If fpx were from any other country and they made it they would've won, that's the fucking point.
No one gives a shit what the reason they couldn't make it was cause the reality is THEY DIDNT MAKE IT ☠️
Dumbasses left and right on vlr istg

Ahh yes, the classic “they would have won!!” cope. Unfortunately for you, they didn’t go and therefore did NOT win. Optic will always be the Reykjavik Masters champions, hope this helps!

yawnster [#41]

Unbiased opinion = hate thread

Womp womp

it is hateful when u call luck winning a major, no player wins a major being bad nor by pure luck, u cant say how valuable a player is when u dont even know what he brings to the team, the game is more than the numbers u look at after game

I agree with everything else besides Zellsis. OpTic did get lucky FPX full roster wasn't there but who cares, NA is better.
Zellsis on the other hand helped SEN so much. SEN won Madrid because of Zellsis and Johnqt, don't care what anyone thinks or says. Tenz also stepped up too as well.

JustHunterM8 [#31]

Tf are you on about. Valorant isn't about politics. If fpx were from any other country and they made it they would've won, that's the fucking point.
No one gives a shit what the reason they couldn't make it was cause the reality is THEY DIDNT MAKE IT ☠️
Dumbasses left and right on vlr istg

This logic is dumb.
Did FPX win Champs?
No, so it means they weren’t guaranteed to win.

oh hey yawnster

Major is in CS bro
Masters and Champions is what you mean, but please dont call it a Major since CS Major is 3000x times better than these mickey mouse tournaments

"Sheriff merchant" is one of the most confusing labels ive ever seen on my life.

Who WOULDN'T want a Sheriff demon on their team that can win them huge thrifties?

lulquid

yawnster [#40]

I completely forgot about them but yes also

EG doesn't win champs without their reserve roster to scrim against. Anything but luck, they contributed massively

Now let's look at Team Liquid's Major winning roster

Me when i only look at kills and not to anything else at all and then rant about it on my silly forums (i agree with kiles tho)

JustHunterM8 [#31]

Tf are you on about. Valorant isn't about politics. If fpx were from any other country and they made it they would've won, that's the fucking point.
No one gives a shit what the reason they couldn't make it was cause the reality is THEY DIDNT MAKE IT ☠️
Dumbasses left and right on vlr istg

bro they were not guranteed a win
they've never beaten LOUD so they'd of lost to them if they made grand finals of the event more than likely.
the second best team of the event was G2 which got SIXTH internationally, and FPX were not 5 international spots better than G2

back then Acend won that tournament because of team play, you can't say cned and zeek carried that hard. cned played with 0.98 rating in that final, zeek also had bad games. Also, Acend won the tournament because there was not any really good team out there, but win is win so they all deserved.

shermie [#51]

"Sheriff merchant" is one of the most confusing labels ive ever seen on my life.

Who WOULDN'T want a Sheriff demon on their team that can win them huge thrifties?

Good with Sheriff, absolutely mid with every other weapon except maybe the stinger

Denjisideals [#54]

Now let's look at Team Liquid's Major winning roster

Let's not lil bro

Psion [#23]

yeah starxo played servicable at worst and good at best, the other 2 though

Still, 2 great players and a serviceable one do not carry 2 terrible players to win champs

Ailed [#49]

oh hey yawnster

Bye bye 🤫🧏

yawnster [#61]

Bye bye 🤫🧏

have i just been mogged

Selfim [#55]

Me when i only look at kills and not to anything else at all and then rant about it on my silly forums (i agree with kiles tho)

And kiles was also a huge factor for their mental so you cant even count him

JustHunterM8 [#34]

Ngl this list is pretty accurate as to who was carried to a win but I do agree that everyone on this list (apart from maybe kiles) deserves their win

there's no such thing as "carried" in tier 1 imo, metas change, playstyles change, players get outdated but that doesnt necessarily make them bad and lucky to win the trophy that too masters at a certain time.

Mortadelo [#60]

Still, 2 great players and a serviceable one do not carry 2 terrible players to win champs

in general, nope, outside of like those players being less aspas and saadhak, or extremely rare circumstances
and its very arguable those circumstances were rare
KRU vs GMB felt like the real finals when watching it, GMB were prob burnt out by the end of it
the whole Vivo keyd controversy, and victor shitting the bed
easiest path to the finals in playoffs(X10, C9, FNC >>>> TS & Kru >>>>>> TL)
no double elim

its definitely something you CAN argue

Booster - Got carried by 4 exceptionally good players.

Typer [#9]

where is kiles now?

case esports

ange0

Psion [#65]

in general, nope, outside of like those players being less aspas and saadhak, or extremely rare circumstances
and its very arguable those circumstances were rare
KRU vs GMB felt like the real finals when watching it, GMB were prob burnt out by the end of it
the whole Vivo keyd controversy, and victor shitting the bed
easiest path to the finals in playoffs(X10, C9, FNC >>>> TS & Kru >>>>>> TL)
no double elim

its definitely something you CAN argue

Are you trying to imply Sacy and Pancada were bad players when LOUD won?? I hope I'm understanding wrong

Also you do know at that time TL had owned KRU about a thousand different times they could never beat them. They owned hard that tournament people have only criticized it after because of how hard they fell off, but at the time absolutely no one called it a fluke because at the time they were the best there was (Obiously not player by player)

Mortadelo [#69]

Are you trying to imply Sacy and Pancada were bad players when LOUD won?? I hope I'm understanding wrong

Also you do know at that time TL had owned KRU about a thousand different times they could never beat them. They owned hard that tournament people have only criticized it after because of how hard they fell off, but at the time absolutely no one called it a fluke because at the time they were the best there was (Obiously not player by player)

no no no im not saying that. Im saying they COULD be able to carry 2 terrible players and win an event, not that they did(i love sacy and pancada).

to me, the eye test said KRU yielded better than TL at champs outside the initial h2h matchup where TL did diff KRU
statistics back this
vs SEN, TL were -6 and KRU were -2 on rounds
in playoffs, KRU were -1 on rounds and TL were -10
this is

Psion [#70]

no no no im not saying that. Im saying they COULD be able to carry 2 terrible players and win an event, not that they did(i love sacy and pancada).

to me, the eye test said KRU yielded better than TL at champs outside the initial h2h matchup where TL did diff KRU
statistics back this
vs SEN, TL were -6 and KRU were -2 on rounds
in playoffs, KRU were -1 on rounds and TL were -10
this is

Ig you can make that case if you feel like but I just think the time and what has happened after is affecting your perception of how good that Acend team actually was

Mortadelo [#71]

Ig you can make that case if you feel like but I just think the time and what has happened after is affecting your perception of how good that Acend team actually was

i mean im only really arguing it as a devil's advocate or for the sake of it (hence "its definitely something you CAN argue") but at the time i thought both KRU and GMB would beat acend

Psion [#72]

i mean im only really arguing it as a devil's advocate or for the sake of it (hence "its definitely something you CAN argue") but at the time i thought both KRU and GMB would beat acend

I think it's actually a pretty common perception to think Acend flukes

Mortadelo [#73]

I think it's actually a pretty common perception to think Acend flukes

i was never arguing whether it was a fluke though was I?

Yea i don't know about this list breh this year sen without zellsis prolly wouldn't have won shit ngl he changed the dynamic in the team

Psion [#74]

i was never arguing whether it was a fluke though was I?

Well I think saying there were 2 better teams than them that tournament implies they weren't the best team = fluked. At least that's how I understand that term

Mortadelo [#76]

Well I think saying there were 2 better teams than them that tournament implies they weren't the best team = fluked. At least that's how I understand that term

i mean by this logic most runs in sports would be considered flukes.
the best team doesn't always win

Psion [#77]

i mean by this logic most runs in sports would be considered flukes.
the best team doesn't always win

A single bo3 not always, but if you lose a double elim tournament I'm sorry you weren't the better team.
That doesn't apply from the 2nd team on tho cause you can be eliminated for 2 harder teams

Mortadelo [#78]

A single bo3 not always, but if you lose a double elim tournament I'm sorry you weren't the better team.
That doesn't apply from the 2nd team on tho cause you can be eliminated for 2 harder teams

yes what sports use double elim lol

L take with boaster

ntro [#80]

L take with boaster

I am the sole unbiased voice of reason in the sea of shit spilling liars on this site

Sorry vro 😶‍🌫️

listing igls in this is so funny

yawnster [#81]

I am the sole unbiased voice of reason in the sea of shit spilling liars on this site

Sorry vro 😶‍🌫️

wrong thats me

agree with everything except for optic, how dare you insult my wonderful pookie jaccob whiteaker