this fucking fraud is pissing me off gets to navi and is all of a sudden in his prime again
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sad_gambit_fan [#9]maybe nrg jsut dont know how to implement him?
just liek how no one else other than fns and chet know how to implement yay?
you forget yay was incredible before he went to envy
sad_gambit_fan [#9]maybe nrg jsut dont know how to implement him?
just liek how no one else other than fns and chet know how to implement yay?
nah its just emea is so weak even frauds can dominate
Psion [#11]you forget yay was incredible before he went to envy
oh wow he was a good jett player when she had 3 smokes and 2 updrafts and instant dash and knives refreshing on right click
also ur point does not make sense because if u were during 2022 offseason everyone said ardiis best rifler duelist after aspas
winae29 [#14]nah its just emea is so weak even frauds can dominate
then pacific best region cuz yay cant farm?
sad_gambit_fan [#15]oh wow he was a good jett player when she had 3 smokes and 2 updrafts and instant dash and knives refreshing on right click
also ur point does not make sense because if u were during 2022 offseason everyone said ardiis best rifler duelist after aspas
Don't forget each of the 3 smokes lasted 7 seconds (which is almost half the duration of an Astra/Omen smoke)
SigmaMale [#13]Maybe just accept that NRG was bad and fns needs yay as much as yay needs fns?
ah yes, ardiis being unarguably the worst duelist from the top teams is fns' fault 😹
SAMPV6 [#16]must be something in the water there cause damn
Bro only drank water from Flint, Michigan
I don't think ardiis is doing anything special. BBL is just doing the same thing over and over again. He has more kills because he has a gun that one shots. All navi players are hunting bbl players who overpeek and run like crazy after plant. BBL won those 6 rounds just because they won their overpeek duels. It's like they were playing with no strats.
winae29 [#14]nah its just emea is so weak even frauds can dominate
Didn't FNC (emea team) trash your NA teams?
sad_gambit_fan [#15]oh wow he was a good jett player when she had 3 smokes and 2 updrafts and instant dash and knives refreshing on right click
also ur point does not make sense because if u were during 2022 offseason everyone said ardiis best rifler duelist after aspas
i mean it was not exclusive to his jett only
TriQo [#8]bro went to NA, lost to a mid Chinese team (BLG) and made FNS a streamer 😭💀
"i went to america to collect money" just now LMFAO
Hashib [#26]i mean it was not exclusive to his jett only
he only played jett during berlin and champions
then 2022 he played a total of 2 agents
can u guess them?
Breloof [#21]Don't forget each of the 3 smokes lasted 7 seconds (which is almost half the duration of an Astra/Omen smoke)
when she had 3 smokes they each lasted 4 seconds, when it went back to 2 smokes they went back to 7 seconds
Asuna_Yuuki [#31]Its BBL bro
If NRG with ardiis played BBL they would have farmed still
BBL > Billy x2
uwukitten [#22]ah yes, ardiis being unarguably the worst duelist from the top teams is fns' fault 😹
He was not the worst duelist. In fact he was the 2nd best Jett in Tokyo. NRG are frauds for putting him on kj raze and sage
SigmaMale [#34]He was not the worst duelist. In fact he was the 2nd best Jett in Tokyo. NRG are frauds for putting him on kj raze and sage
being flexible is literally why they got him, if he can only play jett that means he's dogshit 😭 and look at the other top jetts, you think ardiis is better than demon1, derke, aspas or something?
uwukitten [#37]being flexible is literally why they got him, if he can only play jett that means he's dogshit 😭 and look at the other top jetts, you think ardiis is better than demon1, derke, aspas or something?
He can flex but his comfort agents are kayo, cypher and Jett. Atleast he is still great on those agents unlike yayster 🕊️🕊️
Asuna_Yuuki [#31]Its BBL bro
If NRG with ardiis played BBL they would have farmed still
They lost to BLG...
TWICE...
Psion [#30]when she had 3 smokes they each lasted 4 seconds, when it went back to 2 smokes they went back to 7 seconds
Is that so? Looking at the update history on the Valorant Wiki, it says
v1.0 Cloudburst duration increased 4 >>> 7
v2.1 Cloudburst duration decreased 7 >>> 4.5
v3.06 Cloudburst charges reduced 3 >>> 2
v7.04 Cloudburst duration decreased 4.5 >>> 2.5
Breloof [#40]Is that so? Looking at the update history on the Valorant Wiki, it says
v1.0 Cloudburst duration increased 4 >>> 7
v2.1 Cloudburst duration decreased 7 >>> 4.5
v3.06 Cloudburst charges reduced 3 >>> 2
v7.04 Cloudburst duration decreased 4.5 >>> 2.5
i meant 4.5 seconds, masters berlin was played on 3.04 so thats what yay had
sad_gambit_fan [#28]he only played jett during berlin and champions
then 2022 he played a total of 2 agents
can u guess them?
I mean, why put him on other agents when he’s godly on an agent that everyone was using as well.
sad_gambit_fan [#28]he only played jett during berlin and champions
then 2022 he played a total of 2 agents
can u guess them?
rip gambit
Cacachocolat [#25]Didn't FNC (emea team) trash your NA teams?
fnc was 0-2 vs Americas teams at champions
Psion [#41]i meant 4.5 seconds, masters berlin was played on 3.04 so thats what yay had
Right but we were talking about the Andbox days, right? Since you said yay was good even before Envy.
This was the last game he played pre patch 2.1. After that, he only played one more tournament with Andbox (the stage 3 qualifier) before going to Envy.
Breloof [#47]Right but we were talking about the Andbox days, right? Since you said yay was good even before Envy.
This was the last game he played pre patch 2.1. After that, he only played one more tournament with Andbox (the stage 3 qualifier) before going to Envy.
nvm im smoking she always had 3 smokes???, either way he played great with jett in stage 3 challengers after the nerfs
Cacachocolat [#50]And? the whole year?
in the past half year ("recent" results) fnc is 1-2 vs Americas with a 4-6 map record, anything before that is mute as teams generally don't maintain consistent form for that long
Psion [#48]nvm im smoking she always had 3 smokes???, either way he played great with jett in stage 3 challengers after the nerfs
yeah for sure, he was definitely a good jett back in the days
Breloof [#53]yeah for sure, he was definitely a good jett back in the days
you also posted a game where he had a below 1 rating on jett and a 1.5 rating on sage and thats just ironic lmao
Psion [#54]you also posted a game where he had a below 1 rating on jett and a 1.5 rating on sage and thats just ironic lmao
lol i didn't even look at that, i was just looking at the patch
sad_gambit_fan [#28]he only played jett during berlin and champions
then 2022 he played a total of 2 agents
can u guess them?
gambit </3
Psion [#51]in the past half year ("recent" results) fnc is 1-2 vs Americas with a 4-6 map record, anything before that is mute as teams generally don't maintain consistent form for that long
as teams generally don't maintain consistent form for that long
then those teams are dogshitt. maintaining consistency throughout the season is the key to becoming a better team. one off results are just utter trash garbage
Er3ngenes1s [#57]as teams generally don't maintain consistent form for that long
then those teams are dogshitt. maintaining consistency throughout the season is the key to becoming a better team. one off results are just utter trash garbage
ah yes because teams like Gambit, acend, and EG are trash for their form lasting 2 events
ps. fnatic's form ALSO dropped off between tokyo and champs if you didn't realize, fnatic was not exempt from this lol
Psion [#59]ah yes because teams like Gambit, acend, and EG are trash for their form lasting 2 events
ps. fnatic's form ALSO dropped off between tokyo and champs if you didn't realize, fnatic was not exempt from this lol
Gambit werent shit since they won masters and came 2nd at champions. Acend also performed well enough to qualify in 2021 events. And, what did u read when i said "consistent" ? who was the most consistent in 2023? exactly it' s fnatic
Er3ngenes1s [#61]Gambit werent shit since they won masters and came 2nd at champions. Acend also performed well enough to qualify in 2021 events. And, what did u read when i said "consistent" ? who was the most consistent in 2023? exactly it' s fnatic
most consistent doesn't mean 100% consistency which is what i was referring to when i said "maintain consistency" fnatic didn't maintain consistency, no team does, over the course of the 2023 year. They maintained consistency from Lock\in up until the start of champions, so 6 months(notice the time frame i gave), and then fell off either at the start of groups or playoffs in champions
Psion [#62]most consistent doesn't mean 100% consistency which is what i was referring to when i said "maintain consistency" fnatic didn't maintain consistency, no team does, over the course of the 2023 year. They maintained consistency from Lock\in up until the start of champions, so 6 months(notice the time frame i gave), and then fell off either at the start of groups or playoffs in champions
no team does
top4 at champs is a fell off.....ok wow NA logic strikes again. its very known that no team every maintinas their consistency at 100% all the time. it's like an ideal state for teams to achieve that is not realistic. thats why the next important parameter is for how long can teams maintain their form. in that category, FNATIC has very clearly proved everyone that they are the most consistent
Er3ngenes1s [#63]no team does
top4 at champs is a fell off.....ok wow NA logic strikes again. its very known that no team every maintinas their consistency at 100% all the time. it's like an ideal state for teams to achieve that is not realistic. thats why the next important parameter is for how long can teams maintain their form. in that category, FNATIC has very clearly proved everyone that they are the most consistent
this isn't NA logic bro, placements be damned it was CLEAR they were significantly worse at champs than at tokyo. Watch back the matches and tell me im wrong.
P.S. Shortening the time frame and changing to the most consistent solve the same problem, just u dont like one for some reason
Psion [#66]this isn't NA logic bro, placements be damned it was CLEAR they were significantly worse at champs than at tokyo. Watch back the matches and tell me im wrong.
P.S. Shortening the time frame and changing to the most consistent solve the same problem, just u dont like one for some reason
Fnatic at champs was far better than loud at tokyo. ur just exaggerating at this point stating of somehow they fell off. and having realistic standards for grading teams is important, like u cant have a scale for teams maintaining "100% consistency"? like they arent robots or they arent programmed to be like that. being the most consistent is the most suitable scale for measuring team's performances. And every coach and pro player would agree that. having "100% consistency" parameter is just plain dumb. if ya still cant get it, then ur slow.
Er3ngenes1s [#67]Fnatic at champs was far better than loud at tokyo. ur just exaggerating at this point stating of somehow they fell off. and having realistic standards for grading teams is important, like u cant have a scale for teams maintaining "100% consistency"? like they arent robots or they arent programmed to be like that. being the most consistent is the most suitable scale for measuring team's performances. And every coach and pro player would agree that. having "100% consistency" parameter is just plain dumb. if ya still cant get it, then ur slow.
why are you bringing up LOUD at tokyo, no one even mentioned LOUD?
Psion [#68]why are you bringing up LOUD at tokyo, no one even mentioned LOUD?
ur saying FNC performed significantly worse. its not as worse as loud at tokyo or NRG champs
Er3ngenes1s [#69]ur saying FNC performed significantly worse. its not as worse as loud at tokyo or NRG champs
ok? my point is that no team is consistent for more than 6 months, including FNC, so we can only value results from the past 6 months. and your point is that FNC is more consistent than LOUD or NRG, you realize that does not matter in relation to my point right?
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