sheydos is the victim of the team
since franchising he has been in a dogshit team on a off role
he was one of the best flex players in emea before starxo made him role swap
i dont think hes as good as chronicle but hes worth trailing

just pure name value

in other games the teams of the year do end up winning and giving great storylines
in worlds if ur not top 4 team itw ur not winning , t1 got 3rd at msi at 23 and 24 and ended up winning worlds where they were the best team

but our game is valorant
we have random teams come in and win the biggest trophy which is fine but as viewers we know what we saw which is masters 2 ceiling is higher
so why is community perception for edg winning champs higher than geng winning shanghai
when geng would beat edg 9/10

loud is the only exception
and maybe eg but they dodged fnc at champs cuz of loud

all the other teams were just random , just look at their placements before and after
obviously if u ask coaches and other pro players they wont shit on their colleagues achievements

my point is masters 2 has the highest ceiling
and champs just has random teams come in and win
if u rename champs to masters 3 , people would not value it has high as the 2nd masters of the year
and thats why idk why community perception is higher for edg and nrg winning champs higher than GENG/PRX winning masters 2
its only a name change and people act as if 24edg can play better than 24geng

ur talking about stakes
but as viewers surely you would expect the best gameplay at the biggest tournament then right? thats usually at the 2nd masters of the year , and the team of the year contenders usually end up winning those

champs a random team comes wins and does nothing before and after winning the trophy
its funny that u didnt mention 2021 champs winners acend as they also randomly came and won and looks like the whole comm forgot

it just devalues champs cuz as u said it is the biggest tournament of the year but teams of their years never end up winning it like in other games

brother if u need to clutch a round , it means u were loosing that round
im TALKING ABOUT TEAMPLAY

unless u think their lotus or pearl is better than their fracture u cant say eg improved , they regressed imo cuz they looked looser on server and boostio looked worse which made some of their calls worse
FNC lost fair and square to loud twice , i dont think i can give them anti strat excuse
prx played with a SUB and got 3rd , surely with one of the best duelists #1 apac at that time would win the event with other teams also regressing right?

again my point is not on player form (its always champs for that) , my point is in teamplay and macro , and if u look at that consistently over all the years the peak gameplay has only been reached at the 2nd masters at a international level

did u even read what i wrote?
lets see if they even qualify to an event next year

boostio and c0m played worse and called worse
demon1 and jawgemo played better
they looked more loose in the server and everyone started banning fracture against them which made them look worse

im not only talking about eg im talking about the whole top 3/4 , prx with a sub and nrg were good at tokyo , loud was the only team that improved from tokyo to champs and other teams all regressed like fnc nrg prx(with smth) etc

what about fnc? prx and nrg were also pretty good at 2023
eg regressed at champs and still won cuz demon1 went nuclear not because they got better as a team , and the loud vs fnc matchups

shanghai clearly did what?
and tokyo and eg showed better overall strats and macro at tokyo

champs always just has more shooters and players in better form but that also comes from the opponents making mistakes and playing at a lower level

like im all for underdog storylines and stuff but this game has had enough teams randomly turn up and win a tourney
and that never happens at the 2nd masters so im just confused on what community perception is on champs being rated higher than 2nd masters when its clearly more competitive and the best team unanimous wins , if champs was just called masters 3 or smth people would not rate it higher than 2nd masters and would call it a mickey tournament like 8 team masters or lock in

why do people still value champs higher than the 2nd masters?
always a underdog wins champs and does nothing before or after winning champs (except loud)
and 2nd masters usually always has the team of the year winning / top 3
2021 - gambit
2022 - fpx/optic
2023 - fnatic
2024 - geng/heretics
2025 - prx/fnc

and gameplay level and overall highest peak of the year is always seen at the 2nd masters
champs usually teams either fluke / choke and overall has a less gameplay level

mada also did better tbh
aspas only really has the same level on impact as the others when he is awping otherwise all these 3 players have higher impact
story of aspas career , no awp at internationals and he just has less impact than other duelists , he cant farm or find impact like regionally when he is rifling

make heavy pen weapons bullet tracers clearer
and make good maps and fix walls

this game has a big map design issue and the guns are just getting abused

nah fnc are playing so ass , everyone playing like pussies , wont peek mada after prowler 3v1 but alfa will walk peek heaven , kaajak wont ever let go of shift perma walking instead of trading

isnt that just more hype for skuba if u think about it?
what is the point of this thread lmao

ya its decent

every game i see these threads and after the game ends the user is always offline
xdd

are we talking about regional aspas or international? , cuz derke already clears international aspas
kaajak has potential but he isnt a great oper

its fnatic , the best team of all time
if they dont win tmrw
they will have another chance next year

heretics on the other hand just worsened and have no shown that they can comeback

like why is he running into the smoke with that dogshit ult , just throw the ult and play backsite

mibr got a nasty map pool vs prx ngl

instead of swapping maps every patch for pro play , why cant they balance agents more?

no omen nerfs when he has 80% pickrate since stage 2
skye / harbor literally unplayable for over a year but hey they can make 5 map pool changes in a span of 2 months

they farmed a shit americas and just didnt have enough firepower for internationals and trolled a few vetos
they should atleast consider 1 change

we dont know if alfa will be able to play and prx/nrg storyline just better compared to mibr

hard map for fnc without alfa ngl
fnc needed to close out bind imo but lets see
should be free for prx unless kaajak drops 30 again

tournament will be boring to watch if prx lose and mibr win today ngl

need nrg or prx in the final to make it hype

huh?
he literally has the highest FKPR in all 3 stages of this year
1st
1st
3rd

only thing derke is missing from being a top duelist nowadays is his agent pool and a decent roster
kaajak is clearly good but seeing too much derke disrespect nowadays that it makes no sense

2nd greatest duelist oat , ruined by vitality

fnc loud
edg th

nothing else is close tbh
there are lower finals which are giga bangers tho like

drx optic 22 champs
prx loud 23 champs
optic fpx masters cph
eg prx masters tokyo

happens to every top team taht wins a trophy and fumbles but somehow this critisim is labeled as racism and china haters LMFAOOO

he is the emea zellsis
good vibes
good agent pool
makes teammates play better
abuses game mechanics like running and gunning , phantom smoke spams etc perfectly
almost always makes a good decision in weird mid rounds

nah back in 22 boaster was actually like a ai robot
and ange1 was throwing rounds liek crazy
fns was averaging like -10 per series back then and now he is managing -20 per map

its lowkey sad
i remember he used to talk shit about boaster and ange1 saying he would never play this bad no matter how much he called
and now here we are

just should have retired after 2023 , bro is doing this shit half assed and its obvious

he is overrated by eg 23 fans
but saying he isnt top 10 americas player is just a stretch

its also funny when people talk about the elite jump when shao literally wasted breach ult on a eco 4v5 round

if ur just starting i would say just play support role
and play supports like blitzrank / lux depending on if u want melee or ranged character

mid and jg the most impactful roles in the game so i would say learn the game fundamentals then go play those roles

adc is prolly mechanically the hardest so would not recommend if ur just starting the game but if u can space its very easy aswell

u hyperfocusing on neon movement in low elo when so many other agents are also strong in low elo

what parallels , we have had broken agents like release astra / release chamber / viper harbor pre nerfs and even recently broken ISO which completely changed the way game was played

but ur problem is with the neon otps in low elo?
just seems like ur used to the classic tac fps so when u see a new running mechanics u instantly resist it

bro aint no way u comparing neon movement to legal aimbot

its very clear epic games have VERY DIFFERENT philosophies on what competitive gaming / esports is ,
they have the "all should have equal chance regardless of skill" mentality

also epic games notoriously known for not caring about what pros want and actively making the game random to give worse players a chance

oh ya laz aswell , TS might also change their core

atleast now the next gen pros will all be from originating from valorant

derke left fnc
sacy and tenz retire
loud core broke up
nrg core broke up
navi core broke up
prx might end up changing roster aswell

ya ur right bro
let me just forget all the facts and straight up cope cuz sen lost and ur sad
let me just disregard geng/heretics year , or edg/lev/heretics runs at champs to glaze sen

some people thought eg had a better year right after champs
regardless ,
for a team that won 2/3 events and ended 4th at champs (losing 13 maps the entire year) even their fans didnt make posts like this glazing the team saying "they are top 3 itw" after losing to the better teams

"easily top 3 teams atm" ended 4th and edg lev heretics are all better
geng / heretics also having better years
what are these sen posts xdd

not even fnc flairs were making post after their 2023 season

what are these made up scores
they lost icebox and got destroyed on abyss

thank god ardiis didnt join fnc rejects

f0rsaken s0m

thats just fanboys tho , saw some people are putting tenz / sacy above derke in their top 5s xdd
almost anyone who actually follows the game knows he hasnt had a mvp level performance at a international/ or trophies to match with chronicle

but calling him a baiter cuz he isnt hard int entrying is really funny

def think he needs to be a little more aggro on attack but overall agree teams found out how to play against star duelist players