Team Liquid's new team is terrible. If they had played with the 2021 squad, they could have gone to the Champions Playoffs.
ScreaM
Nivera
L1nk
Jampii
Dimasick( or good igl)
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Nats
Keiko
Jampii
Enzo
Mistic
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Kirya [#2]2021 squad is ass π
At least the new one has some potential
If TL wants to win champs they should get b1sk purp0 and zeddy asap
2021: champions 3.
2022: champions 7.
2023 New roster champions 16.
2024 New roster: no champions
Hexa_22 [#3]2021: champions 3.
2022: champions 7.
2023 New roster champions 16.
2024 New roster: no champions
Teams in 2021 were worse and the players on 2021 squad were better b4
They wouldnt perform nowadays
soonwookong [#9]tbh if u imagine
Enzo
Jamppi
nAts
Nivera
ScreaMit would make a fire team
scream and nivera fell off recently i believe. though i will be glad to be proven wrong if they make a comeback
Kirya [#2]2021 squad is ass π
At least the new one has some potential
If TL wants to win champs they should get b1sk purp0 and zeddy asap
your player won't come π
Er3ngenes1s [#11]scream and nivera fell off recently i believe. though i will be glad to be proven wrong if they make a comeback
they probably did fall off but to compare to mistic and keiko? lol
soonwookong [#13]they probably did fall off but to compare to mistic and keiko? lol
mistic and keiko are rising potential talents. mistic had the chance to prove but needed to improve on other aspects on his gameplay in which he did improve when played for Apeks
You guys look at the current liquid roster and don't see names like scream or nivera and think it's bad. Truth is both scream and nivera was given many chances over multiple teams and didn't achieve consistent results. They fell off and have to prove themselves again.
Enzo mistic and keiko clawed and fight in tier 2 scene and been rising with good performances. I think ppl need to realized that's how tier 1 and tier 2 works. When tier 1 team fails the weak link falls to tier 2 and tier 3 and the rising stars of tier 2 comes to tier 1
soonwookong [#13]they probably did fall off but to compare to mistic and keiko? lol
Mistic and keiko have successes in tier 2 and climbing. Scream nivera both had chances but fumble. It's only natural it happens.
Keiko is literally the only one on that roster without international experience. Mistic has been to 4 LANs, Enzo 3, nAts 5, Jamppi 5 as well.
ScreaM and Nivera has two chances to qual to Masters and Champions this year and didn't even get close. L1nk and Dimasick haven't done anything noteworthy since their stint on TL.
If Keiko can keep up with the pace in tier 1 and Mistic doesn't team flash in the final round of the grand final (much harder now that he's on smokes), they're 100% better than the old roster.
Mortadelo [#16]You're right bro, same with sen if they brought back zombs and Shazham they would be making champions playoffs
Aware
Gutssz [#7]he almost won Champions 1v5
https://www.vlr.gg/51296/acend-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-2021-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/34979/envy-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin-gf
As an ex-Acend fan, I hated Nats the entirety of the Acend vs Gambit game
Er3ngenes1s [#15]mistic and keiko are rising potential talents. mistic had the chance to prove but needed to improve on other aspects on his gameplay in which he did improve when played for Apeks
fair enough, could agree with keiko, and it seems nivera is not motivated enough and is very likely to drop off more even though i feel like theres def better choices than mystic
Hexa_22 [#3]2021: champions 3.
2022: champions 7.
2023 New roster champions 16.
2024 New roster: no champions
2021: 4th place (KRU>>LULQUID)
2022: 8th place (LEV>>LULQUID x2)
Bad take,
Firstly, they made a massive upgrade from replacing Redgar with Enzo, and this is coming from the world foremost Redgar enjoyer. Redgar is not a bad player, but it should have been obvious to anyone watching that he wasn't really working with this roster.
Secondly, Soulcas, dudes been underperforming since he got on the roster, I don't hate him and judging by what his teammates say he is quite good but its clear that he cant (or at least hasn't shown that he can) perform under pressure.
Only real downgrade this year is Sayf, even though Keiko is a good player he has some massive shoes to fill when it comes to replacing Sayf.
i think this roster is slightly underwhelming given the potential pickups that could have been made. i think Enzo is about as good as it gets for free agent IGLs, and ill admit i havent watched a ton of Keiko. but Mistic is a pretty known quantity in tier 1, especially in big tournaments. i really would have preferred getting Burzzy and taking a chance on young talent to develop. mistic is a good player, but im afraid his ceiling is a bit too low for what liquid deserves as an org and what Jamppi and nAts are capable of as players.
Er3ngenes1s [#15]mistic and keiko are rising potential talents. mistic had the chance to prove but needed to improve on other aspects on his gameplay in which he did improve when played for Apeks
-> Mistic
-> Rising potential
Pick 1
Kirya [#6]Teams in 2021 were worse and the players on 2021 squad were better b4
They wouldnt perform nowadays
in 2021 Sentinels won a tournament without loosing a map. Nough said.
Ullyr [#17]You guys look at the current liquid roster and don't see names like scream or nivera and think it's bad. Truth is both scream and nivera was given many chances over multiple teams and didn't achieve consistent results. They fell off and have to prove themselves again.
Enzo mistic and keiko clawed and fight in tier 2 scene and been rising with good performances. I think ppl need to realized that's how tier 1 and tier 2 works. When tier 1 team fails the weak link falls to tier 2 and tier 3 and the rising stars of tier 2 comes to tier 1
Absolutely nailed it! That's exactly what I would say. I really liked ScreaM and Nivera a long time ago but they just stopped showing what they were supposed to. I see good potential with this new roster and I think TL will continue to qualify for international LANs.
Gutssz [#4]nAtshe is better than all Liquid players combined in 2021
https://www.vlr.gg/112607/m3-champions-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf
ScreaM diff
Hexa_22 [#46]https://www.vlr.gg/112607/m3-champions-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-emea-last-chance-qualifier-gf
ScreaM diff
Love how all the nAts and gambit dick eaters seem to magically forget this result
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