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bloofs

okay shitheads

gc players (women and marginalized genders) aren't lacking in talent. it's not for lack of skill or trying that there aren't women in t1, but for lack of players.

every dumb fucking sweaty loser boy probably picks up either a controller or pc/simple gaming laptop at an early age, regardless of whether they end up going pro or not, most men in their lifetimes end up playing video games young→ the playerbase and talent pool is larger. most men get a chance to at least try and see whether they have a natural instinct/skill for a game

to give a comparison outside of esports, the large majority of opera singers are female, not because men are inherently "worse" singers but because more women on average try out (opera) singing. we know men can sing.

we know women can play at very high levels which is why it's important to not restrict opportunities based soley on gender

tldr talent pool small bc not all women play video games →→→ unequal opportunity →→→ unequal representation, the next demon1 could be a girl who will never make it pro simply bc she's never ever thought of playing video games in her life

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THIS FELLA IS SPITTING FACTOIDS

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shrubonfire
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botssi 🗿

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cobalt21312
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???

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brobeans
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I agree. where are my white nfl running backs

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brobeans [#5]

I agree. where are my white nfl running backs

christian mccaffrey

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futakuchifriday
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Great paragraph i upvote this

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cioccolat
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This is why we need to raise our daughters to be sweaty basement dwelling tryhards like every other NA pro

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cobalt21312
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cioccolat [#8]

This is why we need to raise our daughters to be sweaty basement dwelling tryhards like every other NA pro

no one on this website is raising children

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WiNDOWLiCKERRR
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BASED MUSICAL ANALOGY

#11
Uncleben
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Yeah exactly
Why is apac worse than Emea or Americas?
Less players willing to play competitive
Less infrastructure and support
Same thing with women they d didn’t get the support or build the same culture as male gamers due to video games being viewed as a male past time and as a result they are worse
There is no biological reason they would be worse
They will catchup in time, hopefully

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Based gc take but opera is kinda weird bc a lot of opera requires singers to hit notes that are generally easier for women to hit than men, not saying men aren’t needed for bassier notes, just women are usually in more forward roles than men because of their ability to hit these treble notes.

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I'm annoyed because I know how many people will read this and just think this is just cope because they are so internally predisposed to the idea that "women suck at videogames" from purely anecdotal experiences

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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan
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not all women play video games

not all men play vidja games either, easily proven by the fact that csgo players hard clear valulrant players and that game is actually 5x male playerbase than female, valulrant is not the same.

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weakdog
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My newborn daughter will not be allowed to eat dinner until she gains at least 20RR a day

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Nachtel
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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#14]

not all women play video games

not all men play vidja games either, easily proven by the fact that csgo players hard clear valulrant players and that game is actually 5x male playerbase than female, valulrant is not the same.

Your argument disproves itself. Valorant, a game with a much larger female playerbase, has a much larger share of female players at its highest ranks compared to cs:go

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weakdog [#15]

My newborn daughter will not be allowed to eat dinner until she gains at least 20RR a day

shit bro if i was ur daugher i would die of starvation

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JSN [#18]

It's the teams that don't compete, not the players. Players like runi or Jakeee weren't dominatingnl their field before joining c9, why should it be different for someone because they're a woman?

its not abt woman or not but most gc teams are worse than t3 men teams

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yoyoyo_8382 [#19]

its not abt woman or not but most gc teams are worse than t3 men teams

Yes, that doesn't mean the players individually are worse tho. Some of the t1 players in the 2023 season were picked out of no where, in similar standings to some of these gc teams. A good player can be on a bad team, but we'll never know until they are surrounded with good supportive players.

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JSN
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Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#14]

not all women play video games

not all men play vidja games either, easily proven by the fact that csgo players hard clear valulrant players and that game is actually 5x male playerbase than female, valulrant is not the same.

That has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with the games, and how long they've been out.

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JSN [#20]

Yes, that doesn't mean the players individually are worse tho. Some of the t1 players in the 2023 season were picked out of no where, in similar standings to some of these gc teams. A good player can be on a bad team, but we'll never know until they are surrounded with good supportive players.

Yes it does. The only player who has shown promise to be able to compete in T1 in the future is Flor, but she needs to first prove herself in T2. There is no org in franchise that will take a gamble on a GC player when there is 25 proven and experienced players in challengers. Stop trying to force these unproven players onto franchising teams, im sure female players will become great in the future but that is with proven T2 experience and not through forcing them in now.

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Ullyr
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You put it very well . Lot of ppl don't seem to realizes this fact. Gaming playerbase is mainly men.

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parasite
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cobalt21312 [#9]

no one on this website is raising children

I'm done with it. 🗿

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JSN
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Barre [#22]

Yes it does. The only player who has shown promise to be able to compete in T1 in the future is Flor, but she needs to first prove herself in T2. There is no org in franchise that will take a gamble on a GC player when there is 25 proven and experienced players in challengers. Stop trying to force these unproven players onto franchising teams, im sure female players will become great in the future but that is with proven T2 experience and not through forcing them in now.

I'm not trying to force anything, I'm just saying that there's nobodies that have been signed to t1 teams, I don't think it's that much of a stretch if a t1 team picked up a gc player. Don't put words in my mouth.

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I thought this was obvious and everybody knew it? I hope so. Anyway, it's never a bad thing to overstate this

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JSN
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The_Cleg [#27]

I thought this was obvious and everybody knew it? I hope so. Anyway, it's never a bad thing to overstate this

I hoped so to until I looked at twitter LOL

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JSN [#28]

I hoped so to until I looked at twitter LOL

Damn💀

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Smartest_BR_fan
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Agora é só esperar...

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BigPPs
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China when game hasn't released and playing with VPN, Result= EDG reached top 6🗿 Why they can do it with low playerbase and talent pool🗿

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4rrowlol [#12]

Based gc take but opera is kinda weird bc a lot of opera requires singers to hit notes that are generally easier for women to hit than men, not saying men aren’t needed for bassier notes, just women are usually in more forward roles than men because of their ability to hit these treble notes.

the opera take was very accurate and good. Men also have a slight advantage when it comes to thinks like reaction time, naturally have more of a competitive spirit and strive to compete and a very slight difference in hand to eye coordination (for video games this would be mouse and keyboard movement). These are all slight differences and women might find it harder improving these to a very high standard compared to men which I why I think the fact that women are slightly better at opera singing on a general scale makes the analogy so good and accurate.

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JSN [#26]

That can't be proven until gc players join t1 teams tbh. Not trying to force that to happen, I just don't like people pretending to know how it would turn out.

You are saying "I dont like people pretending to know how it would turn out." in you saying this you are saying Brutalities point is invalid and this you being contradicting.

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Nachtel [#16]

Your argument disproves itself. Valorant, a game with a much larger female playerbase, has a much larger share of female players at its highest ranks compared to cs:go

Not by much, in the “t1” female csgo scene, theres not that many less good teams than the amount in gc champions last year

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LouBag
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Since the dawn of time there has never been a woman who was the best at video games.

Surely… if it was possible, it would have happened at least once.

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tomato211222
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kaninv [#2]

THIS FELLA IS SPITTING FACTOIDS

100% but as of now pls stop saying gc players deserve their champions skin

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JSN
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Zerphyr1 [#34]

You are saying "I dont like people pretending to know how it would turn out." in you saying this you are saying Brutalities point is invalid and this you being contradicting.

I didn't say I knew anythjng?

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JSN
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LouBag [#36]

Since the dawn of time there has never been a woman who was the best at video games.

Surely… if it was possible, it would have happened at least once.

Skill isn't the only factor. A lot of it is in the politics of it all, which is really unfortunate.

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bloofs
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BigPPs [#32]

China when game hasn't released and playing with VPN, Result= EDG reached top 6🗿 Why they can do it with low playerbase and talent pool🗿

bc the cn playerbase is actualy rly large but more importantly there's been a super large, comeptitive esports and video game culture in china so picking up a new game is easy and accessible

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cioccolat [#8]

This is why we need to raise our daughters to be sweaty basement dwelling tryhards like every other NA pro

coming from a sweaty basement dwelling keyboard warrior I persume?

#43
MuZe
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This is true because I could've been the next Demon1 if I tried 🗿

#44
froggy_lol
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based take

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Zerphyr1
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JSN [#38]

I didn't say I knew anythjng?

so why are u going against what he said when u don't know anything?

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cioccolat
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MuZe [#42]

coming from a sweaty basement dwelling keyboard warrior I persume?

nah, im brazillian, we dont have basements here

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moulmein
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brobeans [#5]

I agree. where are my white nfl running backs

you shoulda said corners 💀

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It's also not just about potential gamers not even playing, but about potential pros who don't consider it a viable option, or at all. There is probably a good amount of non-male talent that don't try to go pro or aren't even aware it's possible for them to. That's one of the big benefits of game changers and the spotlight it brings.

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Gutwi
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if those so called GC players are losing to me in ranked then trust me, it's skill issue, i'm not taking this simp take seriously anymore

#50
SwimmingWeebsPogChamp
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True, example is famous chefs mostly men

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SwimmingWeebsPogChamp
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Zerphyr1 [#33]

the opera take was very accurate and good. Men also have a slight advantage when it comes to thinks like reaction time, naturally have more of a competitive spirit and strive to compete and a very slight difference in hand to eye coordination (for video games this would be mouse and keyboard movement). These are all slight differences and women might find it harder improving these to a very high standard compared to men which I why I think the fact that women are slightly better at opera singing on a general scale makes the analogy so good and accurate.

there is no research that says men have greater reactions than women, we are all equal

Stop being Bigots

#52
SAMPV6
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Well maybe they just arent interested in it... wild take I know

#53
Valgod
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30-40% of valorant players are female you dumb bitch. Surely they can develop a single tier 1 player

#54
danii1
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shrubonfire [#3]

botssi 🗿

shrubonfire 🗿

#55
VlrUser
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This talking point has been around for ages. It is more about the haters who continue to stay willingly ignorant

#56
LimiNaL
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Truly game changing

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TGOPARTHIB
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JSN [#20]

Yes, that doesn't mean the players individually are worse tho. Some of the t1 players in the 2023 season were picked out of no where, in similar standings to some of these gc teams. A good player can be on a bad team, but we'll never know until they are surrounded with good supportive players.

Florescent is male lol

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Zerphyr1
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SwimmingWeebsPogChamp [#51]

there is no research that says men have greater reactions than women, we are all equal

Stop being Bigots

there are a ton of research which shows that men have a better reaction time against women and this is when compared to the general population and when compared to 100m track athletes who would train their reaction the same amount.

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