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sylv1o

the fact they are the best core in VALORANT history (envyus, optic, nrg) shows that firepower is overrated on valo, i mean they are very good but none of these 3 are on the level of aspas/derke/yay mechanically
yet deep runs every tournament

decision-making is everything

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sadly leo chronicle alfa boaster derke already more accomplished in 1 year 🤣

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sylv1o

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they won 1 masters, thats all lol, so delusional
lock//in is irrelevant
if they win champions, though... then its gg

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wake up little guy just because your team lost 11-3 dosent mean it’s not a real tournament

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It seens very funny to me that when 100dropped won a tier 4 redbull tournament everyone called them an S tier team and they were favorites for lockin and yet when fnc won an international event against the previous world champions its a fluke, average na hypocrisy

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Nah it was not a real tournament. No lower bracket single elim and many teams were trying new stuff. Even if any other team won it was still not a relevant tournament.

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Stop it

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Zerphyr1

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how is it not a real tournament? The best team still wins in this format? just bc there is no lowers doesn't mean it can't determine who the best team during the tournament was?

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if this made sense fpx wouldnt have won a masters bro. because they went to lowers on both playoffs and group phase, double elim INDEED is a way more competitive format, which proves who was the best team

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Zerphyr1

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so in the first masters if there was a lower bracket then sentinels might have lost and would not be declared the best team.

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koromast

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there was a lower bracket on the first masters reyykjavik wtf are you waffling about?????????????

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Zerphyr1

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my bad. first champions

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hekzy

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You're acting as if lower bracket would've changed the outcome. Fucking coooooooooope

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kfox

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Ikr it's so weird

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kronikel win 2 masters and he grand finalist in champions 2021

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sylv1o

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i am not talking about individual players, but keep coping

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RealDeal

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its not cope. na best players havent achieved more than eu best players thats fact

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sylv1o

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i am not from NA and i couldn't care less about EU vs NA obession

yet i still claim the fact the nrg CORE is the best of VALORANT

LOUD could win champions this year and they would claim this title though with back to back champs trophies

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"i am not from NA and i couldn't care less about EU vs NA obsession"

Well maybe then just STFU if you couldn't care less ABOUT THESE regions, or simply quit mentioning that you are not from such and such region and carry on with your shitpost (I'm sure you don't even watch their games either...) BUT PLEASE MAKE SURE to provide us with some essential information on the topic you're so obsessively pushing on here, because none of us give a crap where you're from either, but only on what and how you communicate. As such...

Where are the SOURCES or previous discussions that could support your argument... have you done any study or is it simply your uninformed opinion expressed through your wide backdoor? And mind me asking, have you pulled everything so far or there is more to come?

I consider myself Victor's fan and used to like Envy back in the day, but you... you blatantly sneak in some strong words like "FACT" when mentioning and comparing the players without providing anything FACTUAL to support your weak ass claim.... yes, nothing but a weak ass claim, that is

You also skip defining terms like "core," "firepower," and "level," as if they are agreed terms around here, and keep relying on them in your narrow line of thoughts. And, certainly, such phrases do not have the same meaning for everyone here (I only wish we had agreed on some metrics and ranking importance to those terms)

Lastly you leap into the conclusion that someone/somewhere is the best and that there is some type of decision-making that makes it everything, etc... have you defined the best? What is it exactly, LMAO?

LIKE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, KID???

Seriously, start by COMMUNICATING the information in a sportsmanlike manner... as you'll always have some spare time to crap on yourself later ;) always - if you want it!

Bom dia idiota - acorde e cante... Bem, de que outra forma eu poderia responder a você?

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milflover92

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"I'm not sure I have time to read that right now."
"That's a lot to read, can you give me a summary?"

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clocksky888

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Not bad overall but you write it like this, my beautiful merican soul:

Oh, pardon me [put the pronoun here, not elsewhere]

Aint reading ALLAT!!! 🦄

Grade: F+

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allat

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pandoradox

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someone send this guy a mcdonalds application link

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clocksky888

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Awful - roast line is heavily overused since probably the 70s; overall point is missed.

Grade: F-

Sit.

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pandoradox

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oh so you are still in school thats why so free all the time.

continue thread →

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4rrowlol

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I’m happy for you/sorry you had to go through that

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clocksky888

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Hmm... who do we have here...

I think I stumbled across a hidden VLR talent here ... It would be intriguing to learn what goes on within their completely FRAGILE façade

What precisely did I have to go through? Could you please elaborate on that or simply ...

GTFO ;)

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4rrowlol

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Whatever trauma made u use 3 different fonts to prove a nonexistent point on a valorant forum

continue thread →

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Stormm

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flag makes sense 🗿

allat🗿

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clocksky888

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Almost caught me off guard...

🦄

Solid D grade from me

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Prontera

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Dont u have something better to do ?

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clocksky888

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Yes, I do ... and I am doing it right now.

Any further questions you want to ask?

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CoCloudy

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me next!! me next!!
gimme a grade!!

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The_Cleg

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Didn't know that schizoposting was so popular in this site

Anyway, ALLAT

btw, WWWW

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Zerphyr1

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great post pls marry me

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"0-4 tokyo"

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para de desmerecer o titulo dos cara
o lockin nao vai voltar é unico e mt foda, provavelmente mais dificil que um masters por causa da single elimination

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i think his point is that the victor/fns/crashies core is the most consistent by far with envy/optic/nrg players, fnc has more trophies but they already choked 1129391324 times in tournaments, especially in 2022, while optic get 1st iceland 3rd copenhagen and 2st istambul in last year

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sylv1o

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name checks out, finally someone with iq above 70

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the trio of art1st, realdeal, and kirya are the most absurd russia flags (+yessirskii even though they are finland) all with different flairs and all the same immense EMEA bias no thought stupid takes on every thread. dont worry about them, it will just make your experience on this site worse than it probably already will be

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SmartPerson

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true

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ngl bringing up a year old results is crazy

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Rodu

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I didn't know a core could be the whole team 🤣

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They are also like the five best players in the world on a team. Crashies, FNS and Victor were mediocre when they started and always had mediocre teams. Yet they always make it work. They just were unable to hit number one because teams like FNATIC buy out all the best players eliminating any sort of legitimate competition in the region and the game causing the entire game to just become straight boring. The og trio always made every game enjoyable and when yay and Marved were on the team. They were always on a tear.

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Austin Food Mehta

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moshimoshiman24

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they have the best calling lol so it overshadows their firepower.

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being serious the best core is the guild core arguably 3 top 10 players itw came from that and this is the most competitive valorant has ever been

the envy core had marved and yay every time they were at lan

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fnc have optics decision-making but just with some of the best the firepower as well.

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deep runs but they don't win LMAO

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brobeans

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every time they lose, it is clear they don't have the firepower. they almost always out strat

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Only won once tho.
ntm that was with a heavy meta read and prime chamber yay.

It can give you consistency but no wins. Reminds of a certain KR team but without a heavy meta read and no prime chamber yay to give them a win.

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he played chamber once in the masters 1 finals wym

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Nisham

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by meta read I mean chamber + neon.
FPX had a similar meta read with fade, they had the best read at that time, less than what Optic had but FPXs firepower was better and Shao was Shao.

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kfox

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I think every team that goes far at tournaments needs to have a good meta read. So I don't think that should be used as a way to say a team isn't good. It's part of the game

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I agree but I mean that teams with less firepower need more of a meta read than those without.

FNC used 2021 comps, no harbor and still won just bc of their firepower, good mid rounds and fundamentals.

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They are the most consistent core, which is great, but they weren't really consistently winning big (though, who is anyways other than FNC atm). Honestly, I have more faith in the FNATIC core surpassing everything the NV core had.

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id this game is about aim then scream shouldve won 3 majors by now , sadly its not it a team and brain game

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It isnt tho, Victor when he is on is the best player ever to touch the game(like the game against LOUD)
Crashies consistently gives you 8/10 performances with a stinker or godly game here and there
Fns is the only one you could say who barely offers any firepower but his brain makes up for everything

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Victor is either a god or SkRossi frrr

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lilcheese

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Shit, shitter and shittiest 💯🔥

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bro just copied mch take🗿

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SmartPerson

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mch never whiffs 🐥

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Er3ngenes1s

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just search FNC vs NRG on vlr :)
(alfa,boaster,derke)

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Poopies

CRASHIES FNS VICTOR

Where are the SOURCES or previous discussions that could support your argument... have you done any study or is it simply your uninformed opinion expressed through your wide backdoor? And mind me asking, have you pulled everything so far or there is more to come?

LIKE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, KID???

Aint reading ALLAT!!! 🦄

GTFO ;)

Any further questions you want to ask?