10. Shahzam people tought he was the best IGL in the world and recently it was zombs to hold back the team, now we saw what is SEN real problem
9. Trent literally had 1 good tournament, then fell off quicker than he rised
8. Keloqz he looked like a future star, now he's struggling in tier 2/3
7. H1ber people tought he would have done really well in tier 1 (me included) he flopped at masters and is doing bad at Vitality
6. Heat brazilians used to hype him up, now he's not doing shit
5. Skrossi Indians took a long time to realoze he wasn't even their best player
4. Steel world class IGL they said
3. Lakia lol people actually tought this guy was good?
2. Sinatraa no need to explain
1. Tenz no need to explain
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almost every single game Seoldam topfragged for his team as Jett/Skye, and while yes Jett is main duelist that level of consistency is pretty good considering the comm issue that plagued all KR/JP teams. I mean if you watched the games during LCQ he was a huge reason they made it so far.
He was also at one point the player with the highest ACS in Japan. That means he beat players like Laz, Dep, and Munchkin.
Obviously TENNN, Meiy, and SugarZ3ro are cracked AF. That's why when TENNN and SZ moved to ZETA I was pretty excited for them coming into this Masters, but it is testament to how apparent Seoldam's performance is that XSET wanted to buy him.
Trent is still a good player, it just seems the whole of guard has a mental block right now which might lead to them not qualifying this time around but its too harsh to say he "fell off", they just overperformed last event.
Keloqz doesnt have the same support as when he was on g2, i think this should reflect more on the fact if you have a solid team you'll get solid results as a player and if you're on heretics you're doomed to fail - its still very hard to break out of t2 imo.
Steel, as dumb as it sounds, is a good igl imo. yeah he hasnt had any recent results but you cant deny the fact when 100thieves were at their peak he definitely played a part in it.
Lakia was a great player, but he was forced into being a 6th man and barely had any playtime. wish we couldve seen more of him at both Berlins.
Sinatraa hasn't been in the pro scene for over a year, can't say he's overrated or underrated especially because the reason he isn't getting picked up by a team isn't due to his skill...
Tenz is an amazing jett player, his downfall is he can barely play any other agents and lacks most things except aim. not to mention SEN still isn't bootcamping and i assume he is still playing in LA - BUT he still puts up good numbers, not the best in NA but still among the ranks imo.
H1ber had a quick shot playing on one of the best EU teams at an incredibly important event where their best player wasn't even allowed to play. he tried his best for the situation, let the guy get his footing before judging him.
Not too familiar with many other people on this list but you're all so quick to judge players after having a few bad results. everything is constantly changing in Valorant, we haven't even seen a team stay no1 for a period of time, let alone a player. one bad performance doesn't define a player, which is what you're basing half your list on, people are so focused everytime someone makes a bad play and wonder why their favourite pros become demoralised.
Half of the thing you've said are wrong lmao. Lakia wasn't a great player he literally had 1 tournament where he did good and he's doing shit in JP rn. Sinatraa can be judged, he is not as good as people make him to be, he can see him play everyday, he won't be SEN savior or shit like that. H1ber is doing bad in VIT as well. And Tenz is nowhere near NA's top, he can only aim, that's it, he doesn't even put up good numbers regularly
Lakia barely got to play at his tournaments, there was such a small amount of showing of his skill and as far as i can see he is now on a t2 team due to no fault of his own, he was never given the same opportunities on DRX as NUTURN. yet when he actually got to play on a real team like NUTURN they got 3rd at Reykjavik. You literally can not judge Sinatraa, unless you want to look at his ranked matches. he has not played on a team since February last year, stop shitting yourself. Vitality as a whole is shitting the bed right now, they're a new team with a new roster. like i said, give him some time. In all of SEN's recent games Tenz has been at the top or near the top of the leaderboard, whilst I agree he lacks some fundamentals its obvious he has incredible mechanical skill and some of the best aim in NA - teams literally still say SEN is scary when Tenz is turned on. he's not the best in NA clearly, but he still puts up numbers as shown in his matches.
Ok so, you literally say that Lakia is good because he did good in 1 tournament (1 cool round actually), then shat the bed when playing those few times with DRX and is currently shitting the bed in Japan, but no, he did good one time so he's good. I literally can judge sinatraa? He hasn't played pro for a year, he still streams regularly and he's literally the same he was when he played pro. What the fuck does the vitality shit mean? They're terrible rn you can't just say "it's a new team" well, Guard was a new team as well and they got 1 seed in their region. They're playing awfully and h1ber is doing trash as well, and he did too on FNC, trying to excuse his performance is just pathetic. Tenz is putting up good numbers? They literally only played 2 good teams rn, LG and EG, he did good against LG but totally shat the bed against EG, and he's been this inconsistent for too much time rn to say that he's anywhere near the top lmfao. Good aim means shit in valorant if you lack everything else
Lakia barely played on DRX as he was a 6th man, he played fine with them when given the chance as a flex/support. on his current team which looks pretty dogshit, he still top frags on agents like sova, what more do you want him to do? He can't magically make a t2 team t1. NUTURN was proof he can put up numbers, through KR qualifiers and the masters event he was at the top or near the top, it wasn't "1 cool round", he was a flex player who did his job, not a flashy player..
How on earth are you going to judge a player who hasn't been in the pro scene for over a year? SO much has changed in that time, you'd be braindead to say his ranked performance would be the same as his match performance. Ranked =/= Pro play, has this not been said a thousand times?
Vitality being a new team is a perfectly feasible excuse. you look at teams like Optic, Gambit, Acend etc who you could consider/would've considered the best in the world at some points and they didn't start off dominating everybody, they had rough patches but ultimately came out on top due to hard work. Not to say you don't have teams who start off dominating everyone like The Guard, Sentinels, arguably 100T. All teams start differently before finding their real place, judging them at the start of their creation is always gonna lead to disappointment.
Tenz does his job as a duelist, he was arguably the reason they even made it out of open quals. Like i said, he's not a no1 player but i would still place him among the top 10/15 BECAUSE of his mechanical skill which can make him a demon. If you're gonna make a list like this you might aswell have the entirety of Sentinels on here as their whole team is inconsistent. He has proven himself as a top tier player on multiple occasions but their entire team is in a rut right now.
Ok, I tought I was speaking with someone who was remotely intelligent but I was heavily wrong. Lakia didn't do fine at all with DRX, he put uo average numbers when playing against KR no namers and then shat the bed so fucking hard when he played against good teams. And you said it yourself, he plays in a tier 2 team, and when he played JP top teams he got fucking destroyed (didn't even put up a good individual performance) which means, he is tier 2. Poor team performance ain't an excuse for a player's poor performance, if you're good you will do well individyally even if your team doesn't. Same applies for H1ber and for tenz. Tenz proved he was good in the past, did he prove anything now? Yes, he is proving constantly that he is not a good player, and all he has is aim, he rarely performs against good teams and he lacks the game's fundamentals. H1ber on the other hand, never proved himself or did anything good
Have you even looked at Lakia's stats whilst being on DRX and NUTURN? he was arguably the best player on NUTURN and played at the same level as his teammates on DRX but played 3x less than them all. 1 good player can't carry a t2 team through qualifiers, no shit he can't win anything if his teammates don't know how to shoot back. Poor team performance IS an excuse for poor performance, it's a team game, you can't solo carry in it.
H1ber is t2-t1.5 talent, I doubt he is on anybody's top20-top30 tier list, he was given a shot to fill on one of the best EU teams and yet literally performed better than nearly all of them, he is now working his way up alongside his NEW teammates. they have literally been together less than a month, do you expect them to 13-0 every team they meet?
Tenz continues to put up numbers but Sentinels as a whole is failing, for the 100th time he is not no1 but he is still an amazing player with some of the best mechanical skill in the game. He is not to blame for Sentinels fall and you can't expect him to drop 40 kills every game. Why do you think t1 players compliment his skill continuously?
lakia was the best player on nuturn and was barely given a shot on DRX yet still performed the same as the rest. he cant carry a t2 team to victory, its a team game
h1ber isnt a t1 player imo hes t2-t1.5 yet he outperformed nearly the entirety of fnc at masters. vit together less than a month, they're not gonna 13-0 everyone.
tenz go kill doesn't work anymore but he can still aim but sentinels as a whole is the problem, not just tenz
On the big stages, where it actually counted and against good opponents, Lakia shat the bed with DRX, H1ber ain't doing good even in tier 1.5/2 team being new isn't an excuse for poor individual performance. Tenz go kill doesn't work because Tenz is simply not good, aim alone is nothing in this game
10. Shahzam agree
- Trent disagree, guard may be shit but I feel like hes still really good
- Keloqz he is still doing well, but what you said is a harsh truth, and g2 most definitely understood it, no wonder he got dropped
- H1ber Lol, braindead take
6. Heat mans really struggling - Skrossi idk, i dont watch him play
4. Steel idk - Lakia Lmao
- Sinatraa :skull: x7
- Tenz still hard carrying sen, idk how you call him overrated.
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They did not fall apart because of steel's departure. nitr0 was the real loss for 100T. Him leaving was announced a day after steel leaving and his absence made it difficult for 100T to find their old strength. After that they just messed up with too many roster changes and now they have to find themselves again first. steel is now losing to T2 teams and not even getting close to qualify for a main event so that makes him overrated and not the 'world class IGL' he was getting called.
They were losing for a long time before nitros departure lol, evidently you weren't there for it. Just because steel is doing badly now does not mean anything: you can't claim an individual is bad just because they are on a less than good team, on an org that has historically had less than good teams in this game. If you think a "world class igl" is overrated because they can't make a team work just like that then I don't know what to tell you.
Ok but if they were losing for a long time before nitr0s departure then they were losing for a long time before steels departure too. That just proofs the point that you can't say that '100t literally fell apart after steel's departure literally proves 4 wrong'. Because as you were saying they were already losing for a long time before that. Maybe you can't tell if he's a 'worldclass igl' right now because he's on a 'less than good team' but if he would be the player he was often displayed as, wouldn't a tier 1 team pick him up as igl?
nitr0 and steel left the team at the same time. You were saying that "They were losing for a long time before nitros departure". Now you're saying "I didn't say they were losing a long time before steels departure because they weren't". So when nitr0 and steel both left they were losing for a long time but also weren't losing for a long time. That doesn't make any sense.
You're right, there were 2 days between the announcements.
steel was benched for the LCQ and they came pretty far with a substitute and changing roles. So you can't really compare that with the time steel was on the active roster. And then after LCQ steel and nitr0 left with 2 days between both departures.
I can just repeat myself: steel and nitr0 left the org with only two days in between. That is -in my opinion- the same time. If two days make such a huge difference in your mind I will accept that now.
Also they only lost to Rise and C9 in the LCQ if I remember correctly with C9 being the only NA team to reach playoffs later at champions. It was disappointing they didn't get a spot for champions but in my opinion losing to C9 and Rise and winning against GenG and XSET was still a good performance for a team with a substitute and recent role changes.
Heat is a player that since he proved to be the best in Brazil in the Challengers 3 Br and his incredible individual performance in the Masters and Champions has always continued with this skill level, losing an md5 but killing 100, losing championships but always in the top 3 of the statistics , so as an individual player I don't think it's overrated, It's just part of the common case of having teamates performing poorly.
never lol
Jhow wasn't the best in his position
Ntk wasn't the best in his position (neither Mwzera)
Vixen was good, but probably top 2/3
Murizzz isn't the best flex in Brazil
Koy isn't the best coach in Brazil
the only international tier player in VK was Heat (maybe Mwzera can return while playing Raze)
po, to real curioso pra como tu explicaria essa mudança aí. o Aspas foi um dos melhores duelistas da Masters, além de ser parte do que levou o time dele pra final. o Heat dia após dia vem entregando retornos decrescentes, já foi o melhor duelista do brasil de longe agora já tá se mostrando bem menos explosivo. ainda é um bom jogador? sim, mas parece que perdeu muito do molho
You have to be trolling with naming TenZ as the most overrated player. I agree he deserves a place in the top 10 but #1 is just milking it for the simple fact that no one considers him as the best player rn but he is still a very good player. He is the reason sentinels is still a part of the conversation.
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