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Did TenZ ruin valorant (meta)?

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#1
TheFumbler

Complained way too much about utility and the current Double duelist meta is the result of wanting less utility. Thank you t0nZ you ruined valorant

#2
tua
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The cooldown nerf was good.

Now we need gun nerfs and some agent nerfs.

#3
TheFumbler
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Yall really want the game to be less fun for an average player. The more you nerf these the more Id want to quit because it just becomes a shittier version of CS. The average player cannot give a single fuck about pro play and riot should cater to the average audience and not 0.001% of the players (pro players)

#4
tua
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I will make a post about all the things needed to be nerfed.

The nerfs I suggest are catered to both pro play and normal players.

The majority will disagree, doesnt matter anyways knowing the average rank is gold.

So I don’t blame you.

#11
Punish3rlp
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the game can't be good or will have gun play like CS so reducing it to aim and movement just makes it a shitter version of CS

#19
tua
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U don’t get what im saying

It’s all good

#6
UBClears
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They want to make the game more similar to CS, but it's missing the CS gun play and movement. Also everyone in CS can buy a flash, smoke, molly, and nade, so Val actually has less utility now. Yes Val is now a shittier CS 😭😭

#23
Imnothere
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Just play cs at this point

#27
tua
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U don’t get what im saying

It’s all good

#29
Imnothere
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Bruh can;t use utils and wanted to nerf everything, yeah buddy go back grinding in iron lobby blud

#26
Bhrubby
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-neon slide gun accuracy
-jett updraft
-odin insane dps
-waylay vertical dash
-spray and pray nerf

#5
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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The utility nerfs were the right direction but I think they took it too far because it killed flash initiators while the superior recon initiators are doing fine. I think we need a more holistic approach than just "everyone gets less utility."

Also we could use another nerf to mag size and/or reload time with how much value smoke/wall spam timings are getting lately.

#10
TheFumbler
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Phantom and vandal had more bullets before the viper harbor meta. You can't keep reducing the bullets and call it a day. The players at low level prefer area and odin because of higher bullet count if you nerf rifles bullet count the game will become difficult for them

#13
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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What does viper harbor meta have to do with it? I'm saying that knowledge of the game has increased dramatically over time and you're a lot more likely to get spammed off timing than you were 3 years ago.

Naturally, it's a valid read that deserves some reward, but I think it should have a bigger tradeoff by getting punished more consistently if you do it while too close to danger.

And yeah ares/odin crutches would have a harder time... I think most of us want that

#17
guuz
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The players at low level prefer area and odin because of higher bullet count if you nerf rifles bullet count the game will become difficult for them

this is wrong ...
in low elo they reload after max two sprays (bullet count in the teens) no matter what. if they prefer any other guns it's spectre or an unused ghost on top of their full buy

but i agree, mag size nerf now would be pretty dumb. i think they should tune down yoru/waylay and make the flash initiator utility a little snappier

#7
Pototo
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i think all agents are pretty balanced right now...except sentinels.....they feel really weak in current meta....
so much so that people just prefer double smokes/initiator and go no senti

so i would like some minor senti buffs to even it out

#8
itoktobenotok
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what are you talking about? This is the rightest decision Riot ever make. Before agents literally dropped kamehameha on bombsite

#9
kyro1
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the game is in the worst balanced state its probably ever been in

#15
GarbanzoEnjoyer
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Astra meta, chamber meta, Jett/raze meta, peak viper meta, ascent comp meta, tejo meta, even neon and iso meta...

Only 7/28 agents haven't been picked at Santiago, and two of them are Reyna and Clove. There's room for improvement but calling it the WORST is insane

#18
kyro1
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ok yea pre franchising was worse but post franchising this is easily the worst

#12
Punish3rlp
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you are right TenZ was getting owned in t2 and decided to cry about it too much now we have this game where sentinels are useless both the team and the agents lol and all you need is 3 duelist one smoke and a scan initiator or you can have double initiator with one being a scan and the other would be skye or kay o and play phoenix or Yoru with waylay to have lots of flashes

#14
Monsteiur
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And we make it about TenZ again

#20
TheFumbler
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TenZ is joining sentinels

#16
sentinelmain377
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what was unique about Valo was the util. if Valo is gonna try to become more like CS, then ppl will just play CS instead

#21
Langacune
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need to nerf more. Nerf neon waylay yoru and all g

#22
bobosian
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REMOVE ALL THE AGENT ABILITIES AND MAKE IT U CAN STACK ON EACH OTHER HEAD , WIPE ALL THE SKINS AND PUT CASES IN THE GAME
ADD A MARKET INTO VALORANT WHERE U CAN SELL UR SKINS

#24
TheFumbler
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What about custom maps?

#25
bobosian
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nah it would be copying cs

#28
buh_maxxer
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multiple other pros complained about it as well and now we re here, we need fr0st to save valo

#30
Bhrubby
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Tenz made me pull my egirl waifu which is my wife now. So Tenz really did good than most peole think..

#32
TheFumbler
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W TenZ

#31
rickvlr
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Weren't ppl complaining because of too much utility ? not only him. nearly the whole world.

#34
TheFumbler
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Bro is rewriting history. When you say the whole world do you mean literally? And most of them would be TenZ's sheeps who have no opinions of their own. Either ways the "whole world" is catching up and know how t0nZ ruined valorant

#33
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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Honestly they should've done a simple change of changing cooldowns based on potency

#35
sw4gman
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anything to bring back their golden boy t0nz😹😹😹

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