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aspas is your goat??

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cameran

So many mfs in this site genuinely believe Aspas is comfortably a tier above Derke as a duelist. Whenever Derke's name is mentioned in the same breath as Aspas, there is always an army of Aspas fans quick to point out how much better Aspas is, so why don't the stats illustrate this? Just comparing Derke and Aspas's stats in international events, it's pretty clear they're neck and neck despite this site swearing on the Bible that Derke is nowhere close to the level of Aspas.

Aspas joined tier 1 Valorant in 2022, so lets see how his international tournament stats compares to Derke's from 2022 onwards. This information is all available on VLR if you think I'm bullshitting or something, go ahead and crunch the numbers yourself.

Aspas across Masters Reykjavik, Masters Copenhagen, Champions Istanbul, Lock//In, Masters Tokyo, Champs LA and Masters Shanghai:

ACS: 235
KD: 1.16
ADR: 151
FK per round: 0.18

Derke across Masters Copenhagen, Champions Istanbul, Lock//In, Masters Tokyo, Champs LA and Masters Shanghai:

ACS: 245
KD: 1.21
ADR: 160
FK per round: 0.21

That's strange, why is their performances so close? Matter of fact why is Derke's stats slightly higher? Coulda sworn Aspas was a level above him? Hell even in the current Champs event going on, their stats are close. Aspas is averaging a higher KD, Derke is averaging a higher ACS, ADR and FK per round. This reoccurring pattern doesn't add up, why does this bald fraud keep putting up Aspas numbers even though my goat Aspas is for sure better?

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SkyXD
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So many mfs in this site genuinely believe Aspas is comfortably a tier above Derke as a duelist. Whenever Derke's name is mentioned in the same breath as Aspas, there is always an army of Aspas fans quick to point out how much better Aspas is, so why don't the stats illustrate this? Just comparing Derke and Aspas's stats in international events, it's pretty clear they're neck and neck despite this subreddit swearing on the Bible that Derke is nowhere close to the level of Aspas.

Aspas joined tier 1 Valorant in 2022, so lets see how his international tournament stats compares to Derke's from 2022 onwards. This information is all available on VLR if you think I'm bullshitting or something, go ahead and crunch the numbers yourself.

Aspas across Masters Reykjavik, Masters Copenhagen, Champions Istanbul, Lock//In, Masters Tokyo, Champs LA and Masters Shanghai:

ACS: 235
KD: 1.16
ADR: 151
FK per round: 0.18

Derke across Masters Copenhagen, Champions Istanbul, Lock//In, Masters Tokyo, Champs LA and Masters Shanghai:

ACS: 245
KD: 1.21
ADR: 160
FK per round: 0.21

That's strange, why is their performances so close? Matter of fact why is Derke's stats slightly higher? Coulda sworn Aspas was a level above him? Hell even in the current Champs event going on, their stats are close. Aspas is averaging a higher KD, Derke is averaging a higher ACS, ADR and FK per round. This reoccurring pattern doesn't add up, why does this bald fraud keep putting up Aspas numbers even though my goat Aspas is for sure better?

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cameran
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mocking me by doing this proves my point

derke over aspas! woohoo thank u skyXD

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DSBY
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So many mfs in this site genuinely believe Aspas is comfortably a tier above Derke as a duelist. Whenever Derke's name is mentioned in the same breath as Aspas, there is always an army of Aspas fans quick to point out how much better Aspas is, so why don't the stats illustrate this? Just comparing Derke and Aspas's stats in international events, it's pretty clear they're neck and neck despite this subreddit swearing on the Bible that Derke is nowhere close to the level of Aspas.

Aspas joined tier 1 Valorant in 2022, so lets see how his international tournament stats compares to Derke's from 2022 onwards. This information is all available on VLR if you think I'm bullshitting or something, go ahead and crunch the numbers yourself.

Aspas across Masters Reykjavik, Masters Copenhagen, Champions Istanbul, Lock//In, Masters Tokyo, Champs LA and Masters Shanghai:

ACS: 235
KD: 1.16
ADR: 151
FK per round: 0.18

Derke across Masters Copenhagen, Champions Istanbul, Lock//In, Masters Tokyo, Champs LA and Masters Shanghai:

ACS: 245
KD: 1.21
ADR: 160
FK per round: 0.21

That's strange, why is their performances so close? Matter of fact why is Derke's stats slightly higher? Coulda sworn Aspas was a level above him? Hell even in the current Champs event going on, their stats are close. Aspas is averaging a higher KD, Derke is averaging a higher ACS, ADR and FK per round. This reoccurring pattern doesn't add up, why does this bald fraud keep putting up Aspas numbers even though my goat Aspas is for sure better?

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cameran
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ok

#3
BerLINglazer
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meow meow meow!

#9
cameran
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:3333

#4
Just_some_loser
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I thoguht u left this site to focus on ur fent job?

#5
cameran
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to study for finals

i would never unironically leave this site my besties :333

#6
Monsteiur
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the terrorist returns

#10
cameran
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WHAT???

#7
foythvlr
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when you know this is a old copypasta but you cant prove it

#11
cameran
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definitely not. im not that unethical

#12
Vyse-Fan_In-more-than-one
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"Current champs" - Hell even in the current Champs event going on, their stats are close.
I think its proof Enough

#13
foythvlr
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im on you camera man. sleep with an eye open tonight.

#14
AJ_btw
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Well, it mentions Derke playing at “the current Champs event,” which means it’s from August 2024 at the most recent. Proven.

#17
foythvlr
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ik im just joking

#15
mondely
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what did derke do without boaster again?

#18
cameran
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won kickoff. the most important tourney
fnatic just bombed out after bombed out after bomb.

#19
mondely
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most important tourney 🥀 people say anything these days. as expected of the famous distributor or seller on vlr

#27
cameran
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what bro its true

#29
mondely
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0/8

#25
fr0ster0p
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isn't it same case for aspas he also did not win at international trophy after getting out of loud and yes he finished 3rd in 2024 and 5th- 6th this year

#30
mondely
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yeh but he could carry his team to intl, smth derke couldn't do when his superteam didn't work

#39
fr0ster0p
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wasn't he top 5 in bangkok in state he did very good but teammates keep changing after 1st master

#16
RealBallKnower
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He isn't beating "baiter" allegations.

#23
cameran
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what bait?

#20
LifeDiff
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Yap yap, best player in the world stfu

#32
cameran
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wrong

#21
dimmed
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Cameran you are wasting your breath. They call a baiter, the "best player in the world"

#28
cameran
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what im saying. thank u dimmed!!! :3

#22
Maniacwolf
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ASPAS VAMMOSSSSSSS

#33
cameran
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no

#42
Maniacwolf
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VAMMOSSSSSSS

#24
unclemayo
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thank you derke is the goat

#35
cameran
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:333333

#26
Vesslan
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I think that people tend to evaluate solo-carry jobs more which Aspas has definitely did more with less (no pun intended). I don't think Aspas is a tier above Derke at all.

#36
cameran
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Agreed

#31
KiwiJuice
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Aspas is Messi, Derke is bendtner

#37
cameran
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w comparison

#34
sw4gman
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i do not care who is the goat, its just not botnicle

#38
cameran
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Yess!!! :333

#40
aiminverylabs
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how much... for tent

#43
cameran
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none :3

#58
Laundry
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For free????????? Wtf man I want my money back

#63
cameran
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deligjted told me to sell for free ask him!!

#41
DBStudios
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Aspas wasn't LOUD's star player back in 2022 and even then Derke has a lot less rounds played compared to aspas which directly inflates his stats.

#45
cameran
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nah

#44
Elby56
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stupid af reasoning but it is true that while Aspas > Derke, it's not by an extreme amount.

#48
cameran
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fair :3

#46
hoboclap
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Aspas isnt the goat, but derke isnt even top 3

#50
cameran
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wrong

#56
hoboclap
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delusional derke fan strikes again

#47
Super_Devvik7
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Aspas is overhyped by the Brazilian crowd. He aint even top 5

#52
cameran
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heavy agree man

#49
Revlo
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said it before but aspas does way better regionally than internationally, currently don't have him as the goat

#53
cameran
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as you shouldnt. respect!! :3

#55
Zerphyr1
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btw if u calculate the weighted average that takes into account how many rounds there are for each seperate kd for an event then aspas has a 1.22 rating and derke has a 1.21 instead of this 1.16 vs 1.21.

you bring up first kills where aspas and derke are similar but if u look at first deaths and the ratio for first bloods to first deaths its 1.8 for aspas and 1.3 for derke.

also rating is a way better measurement then acs and adr as it doesnt take into account overheating and just simply taking more gun fights like kangkang does.

also aspas has an infinitely better regional rating and kd compared to derke. ALSO derke has a full superteam to support him with great util and when ur does team performs well, you will generally have a better rating bc u have more anti ecos bc ur a winning team and just bc opponents take more risks when they are losing which is why in comp and pro play its often to a full team to be positive and the other team to be negative when statistically if yours teams performance doesnt impact your individual stats and performence then this should be very rare, around 1 in 32 chance but this is ofc not the case as it happens basically 1 in 3 games.

this post isnt targetted towards OP since its an obvious bait but for other lurkers

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cameran
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This isn’t a bait. But fair enough.

#57
9wntr
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zekken clears d0rk0 tho

#61
cameran
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Agreed

#59
sher10ck
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Idk why K/D , ACS is being considered as a metric here?
Lets say I am iron and my K/D is 1.61 does that mean I am better than them? Lol no. So it also depends on no. Of quality players you have been against.

Internationally since 2022 aspas has been against the best.

2022
Masters Reykjavic - P2. Do you even know how sick was 2022 yay? Even the whole OPTC squad
Champs Istanbul-P1 . They defeated the same team (I still believe LOUD vs OPTC is the best VCT final ever till date)

2023
Lock in - P2 , LOUD almost won it but couldn't, I can give this to derke
Champs - where they beat Fnatic twice

2024
Aspas led LEV while derke was again humiliated at champs by SEN

2025
Asapas led MIBR to a good run at champs while derke , wait was he even playing in 2025?

Idk why this is even a debate aspas has been very successful with multiple teams that's why he is the GOAT.

#62
cameran
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Sure consistent but derke has more trophies. Still important measurement

#64
Yistyy
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The thing is derke hasn't proven himself outside of the fnatic system. Meanwhile everywhere aspas goes turns to gold

#65
Wolfed
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hello sentinelmain

#66
weewoohereisdapolice
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Aspas regional farmer +insane champs is affecting peoples rating of him a lot. Also dont forget derke is a far more selfless duelist than aspas which goes in derkes favor.

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