Depends on how he plays at champs. He would likely enter the top 5 on my list, but I doubt he would be top 3.

im c0mming so hard

The fact heat can still be a baiter while no teamates are alive is truly crazy

Tell me which ones and give me reasons why

1. The Asuna paycheck stealer allegations have always been false and anyone who ever believed them simply doesn't watch the games
2. supamen is a tier 1 level player and deserves to be on his team
3. Trophies don't matter for GOAT consideration
4. For all intents and purposes, G2 won Bangkok. They were the best team at the event, so they basically won it.
5. FNC deserved to lose Lock-In
6. Derke is the third best player of all time, and it isn't particularly close
7. f0rsaken is one of the most overated players of all time. He's still great but is overglazed.
8. MiniBoo and Riens were the only two truly great players from that TH 2024 roster. Wo0t had one tournament that made everyone thing he was great.
9. Anyone who thinks yay was anywhere close to GOAT consideration after 2023 is a larper
10. In 90% of cases, calling for players to be dropped is stupid as fuck because we don't know the inner workings of a team. There are rare cases where a player is so bad in the server it's reasonable to call for them to be cut, but overall it is too far.

After the MiBR game yesterday I agree with aspas, so I would probably replace zekken with aspas or johnqt, but to tex and Verno I want to ask what games you've been watching.

Asuna, Neon, Jawg, Keiko, zekken. Asuna #1 other 4 are up to interpretation.

I mainly watch EMEA and Americas and yes, they are. PCF has better individuals and a basic understanding of what to do. They would 2-1 ENVY in current form.

Neon

Barely beats a bottom tier team as the worst player on his team -> insta 150 vlr threads about how he needs to be kept

smartest vlr user

and I'm not even saying cNed was like GOAT in those years or anything, but he was still pretty damn good.

mf did NOT watch 2023 or 2024

frankly this comment is an insane self report. Only someone who bandwagons and doesn't keep up with Valorant would have this take lowkey

no he is 100% fourth. This is legit the opinion I will defend against all others. He is a tier below the top 3 but a tier above everyone else.

t3xture is 12th

Demon1 I count as a Senti, but even if he was a duelist he wouldn't make the list.

15th

13th

are you talking about those three or are you just describing something?

he's 11th

10 - cNed
9 - keznit
8 - TenZ
7 - zmjjkk
6 - something
5 - Jawgemo
4 - zekken
3 - Jinggg
2 - Derke
1 - aspas

I mean yea. One side of the bracket was stacked over the other one. No hate to EDG, they're probably still the 4th best team at the event, but one side of the bracket was 100% more stacked than the other side.

When XLG vs NRG is the most entertaining yk the matches have been dogshit

I mean anyone who actually watched all the regions knew Americas was going to be the strongest most likely, it's just PRX fans will tell you you don't watch Pacific if you say that, even if they don't watch Americas.

TH -> Theoretically their peak could challenge PRX, but the problem is they're unlikely to hit it. They'll probably end up somewhere in the 4th to 6th range
Vit -> Similar to TH, but their floor is way lower because their individuals are less consistent and they are worse at adapting mid match. If it all clicks they could win the whole thing but as it stands they might struggle to make it to playoffs.
Fut -> IDK, they are very reliant on s0pp smurfing on Neon, and without Neon idk where they'll land. They could theoretically make it out of swiss but their absolute peak is probably 5-6th.

TH 2-1 EDG, good try from EDG, but their run ends here.

I put him on mine :3

XLG up 1 and EDG down 2 and it's my power rankings exactly, they just plagarized me

Ruxic, Alfa, Veqaj, Riens easy top 4. Below that it's a big gap. 5th is one of Sayo, MiniBoo, Jamppi, s0pp, SociablEE, Chronicle, or marteen.

I'm an Ethan fan if that counts

which

read edit

1. Spike
2. mada
3. Jawgemo
4. aspas
5. Jerrwin

EDIT : I counted secondary duelists (zekken, sato, etc.) as flex players, so they weren't considered. This is for teams primary duelists.

low ELO is whatever ELO is below me

I give them 75% odds. They're still fine for champs points, it's not like they need to make top 2 to qualify, and with Veqaj back they should be an easy top 4 EMEA. If they can't get Veqaj back it's rough though.

Could OOMR make a rock so big even he couldn't lift it?

depends on how he looks in the finals, but probably not unless he goes super mega

also no sign zekken instead of leaf tf not jaw

No one. There is no one in Americas that does his role better than him and also speaks english. You could maybe argue for mada but imo that's a sidegrade.

Chron all time, aspas close second
primmie right now, Neon close second

in b4 Lev beat G2

we need Sliggy or FNS to say Jawgemo is an entry duelist so his stats don't matter as much so vlr can shut up about him.

Navi has at least made multiple internationals in franchising.

wait zekken's not going fuck uhhh d4v41 instead

primmie
RieNs
zekken
valyn
happywei

legitimately I don't even count 24 against him. he was unironically a top initiator in Americas, just jailed by his team.

MiBR could never

It was actually just brilliant from Vit.

they know TH knows that Vit like to hold B for retake with Chron, so Vit stacks B and has Jamppi use a lot of util A to make it seem like they're stacking A to induce TH to go B and then TH walk into the stack and lose.
brilliant

trent