Frontrunners: Ethan, Chronicle, Aspas
Legends: Alfajer, Boaster, Derke, Tenz, f0rsaken, Sacy, Meteor
Great: nAts, yay, Demon1, Crashies, Leo, KangKang, Chichoo, Brawk, s0m, FNS, d4v41, Jingg, Something, Mako, T3xture, Karon, Less, Skuba, Mada, Saadhak, pAncada
HM/Future Contenders: Kajaak, Marved, Zekken, Riens, Woot, Hyunmin, Munchkin, Stax, Buzz, Mindfreak, Cned, Jawgemo, Smoggy
Tell me if i forget anyone or if i should change anything
Alfajer not even close to frontrunners.
Aspas the best mechanical player.
Ethan the best igl.
Chronicle the most winner.
Alfajer best on neon LOL.
Alfajer has two titles and a shitton of podiums being very good individually
Aspas i agree but he really needs another international or at least a final because hes getting left behind
Getting left behind as he breaks the kill record twice in 2 days 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Stop trophy slaving, chronicle is a bang average player
Sick Asuna Xeppa are the same tier of talent without super teams
he still has three trophies and a shit ton of finals. last time i checked it sick was retired with one year of carreer asuna cant play more then three international matches and xeppa doesn't even pass americas playoffs
Disrespect alfajer like that? He's definitely closest player to Frontrunners. Also What makes him different from Chronicle?
ethan won 1 tournament as an igl bro he is not the best but he might be the most smartest valo player tho
Winning doesn’t make you the best at something it just means you were on the best team
"Best IGL" with one win igling and a whole year of failure specifically because his IGLing wasn't good enough is fucking revisionist history.
nAts needs another international run he haven't been relevant internationally since 2021
Technically tl vs prx and tl vs sen were banger games so he should be legend for those banger series he gave us
he is trying bro, its a team game:
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2283/valorant-champions-2025
eu concordo mas não posso colocar ele ali sem +1 internacional infelizmente, mas isso vai mudar um dia com ctz
o s1mple é o goat do CS e só ganhou 1 único Major, esse argumento nao tem nada haver, e o troféu dele é uma Champions
s1mple tem uma caralhada de s-tier e finais, Aspas de final internacional só tem 3, precisa parar de querer fazer caridade e investir num supertime pesado pra ser campeão de novo logo
mas no CS tem jogadores com mais vitórias internacionais e 4 Majors, 5 Majors, 3 Majors, mais que o ucraniano. CS tambem tem 45678 campeonatos por ano, VCT só tem 3 chances e 1 chance para o campeonato mundial
mas realmente, o aspas só se mete em arca de noé ano após ano, espero que ano que vem melhore
Muita gente falou então botei ele lá, ainda acho q fica meio destoante dos outros dois mas é justo
ele acabou de ter a melhor performance da história do Champions estatisticamente, quebrou recorde estando doente contra os atuais campeões do mundo. Quando se fala de GOAT de um jogo de time, na minha opinião, não dá pra levar em conta só resultado coletivo, eu entendo sua linha de raciocínio mas acho que a maioria discorda
Aspas haven't been on a international final since lockin. He needs to get on a superteam and get that international win
Leo has always been insane since the moment he started playing in vct. Definitely deserves legend imo
being insane regionally and not translating fully to internationals doesn't really make for a GOAT discussion. "but his team was bad and he got sick" unlucky but it happens
He wasnt just insane regionally lol, wdym 'not translating fully to internationals', he was dominating
....before fnatic he only played a international once and got a 7-8th placement
Ye and he was the 4th highest rated player that event ... Every international event he attented, he got atleast top 5, most of them top 2
Groupstage is literally part of the event ...And obv if they went 0-2, the rating is gonna be ass. Leo plays bad and they lose twice, coincidence? He was literally best rated player in groups and its not like they played bums in group stage, they won against optic and he dropped +22 on them. Idk what to tell u
can we all agree that aspas is like s1mple while ethan/chron are equivalent to device?
munchkin should def be in the great tier even after becoming tiltkin, karon should be in great if skuba and mada made it.
i am blind my bad, but munchkin def all time great type of player, I think he got 1 more good year to show in him
Nats haven't been relevant internationally since 21. Tenz won a master last year
well despite not having great placements in 2023/2025, he still was somewhat relevant internationally on TL.
nAts: N/A, 1st, 2nd, N/A, N/A, N/A, 17th-32nd, 5th-6th, 13th-16th, N/A, N/A, N/A, 5th-6th, 9th-10th, 9th-12th
TenZ: 1st, 5th-8th, 9th-12th, N/A, N/A, N/A, 17th-32nd, N/A, N/A, 1st, N/A, 4th, N/A, N/A, N/A
his best placement since 21 was a 5th-6th. not his fault 100% of course but maybe he should get better teams then
ye but he is clearly still good as a player rn so that definitely puts him above TenZ all time no?
extra points:
No because placements do matter and in a longer period of time tenz has better placements than him
But i understand your point
masters winner and has like two other international finals. sadly he fell off after 22 but he was still a demon back then and a top 3 world controller for two years straight
ig but that was the first time i thought abt him in like a month so it felt a bit weird
fair enough but i got to be fair with the ones back in early days too even if they are washed. ig they will be more forgotten with time but with the esports being about 4 years old being relevant in half of them is still really good
(incomplete) players better than chronicle
Aspas
Tenz
Mindfreak
Sacy
Nats
Zekken
Zellsis
Narrate
Alfajer
Leo
Derke
Boaster
Crashies
Urango
Mada
S0m
Ethan
Boostio
Caunzain
Pancada
SAADHAK
Doma
Kiles
Kk
Skrossi
Benkai
Rb
Mako
Forsaken
Something
Texture
Davai
Patmen
Jinggg
Valyn
Trent
Tuyz
Jonahp
Leaf
Jawgemo
Icy
Yay
FNS
Victor
Shahzam
Sinaatraa
Sick
Dapr
Zombs
Buzz
Stax
Xffero
Kushy
Monyet
Jemkin
Rarga
Whzy
Dephh
Cryo
Asuna
Hiko
Nitr0
Steel
Verno
Cortezia
Rglmeister
Heat
Raafa
Qck
Dgzin
Xeppaa
Jake
Rumi
Wippie
Zander
Kess
B0i
Florescent
Margaret
Laz
Dep
Ten
Crow
Xdl
Hiroron
Zeta
Izu
Carpe
Sylvan
K1ng
Zest
Crazyguy
Scary
Crws
Patiphan
Sushiboys
Jitboys
Lightningfast
Russ
Polvi
Shroud
Less
Hazed
Tex
C0m
Kinggg
Tacolila
Shy
Ec1s
Marved
meL
Mimi
Petra
Bstrdd
Leviatan
Dos9
Berserx
Ncslasher
Flipsider
Cgrs
Penny
Ion2x
Canezerra
Kyu
Satellite
Nismo
Redux
Bao
Infiltrator
Chloric
Alym
Autumn
Foxy9
Meteor
Lakia
Flashback
Hyunmin
Ban
Bang
Havoc
Bcj
Apoth
Reformed
Steel
Sayaplayer
Estrella
Simon
Nobody
Haodong
Jieni7
Mazino
Mwzera
Nzr
Nagz
Klaus
Keznitdeus
Kyedae
Noia
Tarik
Curry
Xenom
Artzin
Palla
Nature
Derek
Supamen
Brawk
Skuba
cNed world champion + still got it(recent performance... tho didn't win but performed good)
Bro Demon1 played well for like 2 months bro stop putting him on these lists ffs
He's a champs mvp i can't just ignore that
And his prime is still one of the biggest mechanical primes of all time
imagine if he got to stay on a team with a coach that knows how to use him tho ? Fnc wouldnt be going to these finals back to back if they keep changing their best players
A lot of people talked so i swapped alfajer with aspas
Still think aspas is a little behind but i'm a man of the people
keep smoggy in future contenders, I CAN JUST FEEL HIM BECOMING ONE OF THE GREATS
longevidade nao, ele tem 2 picos, até pq no meio desses 2 picos dele ele n foi constante, mt pelo contrario, ele sumiu
e outra, n tem sentido nenhum o pancada estar em um tier na frente de players como cned, stax, buzz e zekken
Enquanto o Leo tem 1 (período entre Lock-In e Tokyo), apesar de ser um dos melhores da história, nunca foi muito antes e nem depois (depois mais por problemas off-game, que o tenz também teve)
e o pancada tem duas finais internacionais e um título. cned não foi muita coisa pós 21, stax, buzz e zekken talvez sejam mais consistentes mas chegaram menos no topo
This is maybe the worst list I've ever seen bro imma be honest, you couldn't have been here for more than a year with this type of take
take? are you restarted? it's a website counting all these since 2023 there is no my "take" its a literal statistic
Yeah cuz something as variable as a players career can be accurately assessed with a single statistic from "muh website" that began counting half way into Valorant's life
Put ScreaM on the bottom of that list. I know that he hasnt won anything and that "OMG KC 2023 HAHAHA", but even when he was at KC, after Newzera left just look at his stats, he went back to popping heads. He had the highest ACS in EMEA LCQ 2023 with players like cNed, suygetsu or F1tinho also competing. ScreaM was carrying TL for three years, he was the first player to get an ACS of 300 in a BO3, he also has the highest ACS ever on Phoenix (considering players who have at least 200 rounds on him). He also produced some iconic moments like his 1v3 ace clutch against Acend
nats should be atleast in legends, lots of pro players still follow is kj and cypher setups and bro taught valorant how to play viper while other playing brim and omen.
also mako this is the controller goat he brought of controller tech everytime the plays in international. he can just blindly play controller can win rounds just by util usage.
Another one is kk he is been performing well since the time he every played in international even though his team was worse
this is so recency biased there’s no way t1 rookies like skuba mada and brawk are already at greats above players like zekken stax jawgemo buzz munchkin players who have also won an international and have also had high tournament finishes (this is the nrg boy’s first international finish). they’ve only proved themselves in one tournament while other players have been proving it year in year out
I love Ethan but it feels weird thinking of him as a goat like i can name 20 players that are way better than him and are more consistent. Trophy counting sure is a brainrot
You gotta consider what he brings to a team tho twin. This man lead the league in assists in 2023, was 4th in assists in champs 25, and first in champs 23. This guy is the greatest support player ever. I will always have LeChron James over Ethan Arnold, but to say that ethan isn't a goat is a major downplay to what this guy brings to a team.
Frontrunners ethan i laughed ethan had a 0.96 kd this champs playoffs... yall gotta stop putting ppl high just bc they won award...
there is no goat in this game yet, aspas chronicle and ethan are all lacking somewhere. the true goat will emerge with aspas level mechanics and chronicle amounts of trophies.
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