This entire time i felt like I was talking to a schizo and this reply confirmed that lmao. Laid out my arguments and every single response I got is laughable. You even agreed with me on the prestige thing, straight up got proven wrong on the viewership (LMAO), and somehow schizo enough to equate 6 months to 16 days. Yet you think you refuted my arguments, no way you are a real person.

Brother, it doesn't matter if the teams are trying or not, they probably are. The point is even if they are trying, they are not on their A game. They are tired from the previous Masters and they are preparing more for Champs with a different map pool. Doesn't help the tourney's case when they have single elims format and matches are played together, it just dilutes the legitimacy of the tournament. And viewers know that, that's why it has piss poor viewership.

1. tournament has less prestige
2. too close to the last masters
3. goofy format
4. valid boycott

EWC having only 6 days DOES NOT help your case. If anything, that's a testament on how inferior it is to a more comprehensive tournament like a Masters/Champs. Imagine if Toronto was like EWC, FNC wouldn't even sniff the grand finals since lowers don't exist, even tho they were clearly the 2nd best team in that tournament. Regardless if you are legitimately arguing or ragebaiting, you're doing a bad job at both.

I mean atleast get your facts straight. In terms of viewership:

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/esports-world-cup-2025-valorant
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-masters-toronto-2025

Compare them yourself, use your eyes. Also, PatMen himself just mentioned on the post-match interview how tired they were which affected their performance. Their complaint about scarce tournaments were about 6-month offseasons, not even remotely close to this situation where two global lans are SIXTEEN days apart from each other. 183 days ≠ 16 days. Take into account the two different timezones btw, imagine the jetlag. Then you put them in a single elims blender? The tourney is still good and fun, just noticeably worse than masters in all aspects except oil money.

Prize pool is higher but we are talking about prestige here. It cannot objectively have higher prestige when the viewership of the event is like 10x less than masters, signifying that people don't take it as seriously. Factor in that it's also too close to the actual masters, this feels too much of a forced tourney.

Prestige = Lower Viewership, not part of VCT
Quality = Single elims, Players are tired from the previous tourney
Money = Higher by a bit, oil money came in clutch here.

No if it keeps being too close to masters 2 since players are inherently more tired than usual

oh mb there's 4 more teams ig. still 3 of my points stand, not to mention lower viewership

it's more entertaining but it's more controversial in terms of legitimacy because of the goofy (but fun) format

Single elims format, low team count, not part of vct circuit, and players are tired from masters 2 thus less prepared. Still the best tourney outside of vct i guess

Champions = S+
Masters = S
LOCK//IN = A+
EWC = A

this is barely a major, you cannot look at the format of this event and say that with a straight face

not even on par with lock//in

Are you stupid? If Toronto was like this event, FNC wouldnt even be in the finals since there's no lowers.

stop being mentally challenged, if Toronto was like EWC fnc wouldnt even be in the gfs since there's no lowers lol

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FNC STANDS NO CHANCE

Because ideally, showmatches are meant to feature big content creators with fanbases that wouldn't normally watch valorant. If they feature all pro players, they would just attract the people who would watch the event regardless anyway. Your idea would fit more into an all-star game type thing.

Whole point of showmatches is that they arent serious and sweaty

EG fans are quiet because they don't exist

Demon1 is better than all SEN members
Zellsis is worse than all NRG members

If we're talking individual skill..

Who cares maps 2 and 3 were pointless. Sen already won by map differential 😂

Yaboidre luminosity legend

Acend 2021 entire roster

If G2 2-0'd sen they wouldn't need to even consider round differential. They would've went 3/2 vs SEN 2/2 at map differential.

I guess if they dominate SEN more than SEN dominated MIBR then yes

SEN 21'
GAMBIT 21'
OPTIC 22'
LOUD 22'
FNC 23'

best team oat is complicated cos of shifting meta but in terms of highest PEAKS:

Duelist: yay
Sentinel: nats
Controller: boaster (igl)
Initiator: saadhak
Flex: demon1

Tier 1 and 1.5 should just be merged. Any teams that have a decent chance of beating each other deserves to be grouped together. Hence the qualified teams for the main event.

Ok

NT PAPER REX

Most sane vlr poster

Yes and they don't share regional SLOTS which is what OP is talking about. Hence in this thread APAC ≠ KR (DRX).

Yeah it is, but in Valorant they are different. And we're talking about Valorant not Geography class

Least braindead vlr user

DRX is KR not APAC

10% Zeta wins the event
50% Guard gets eliminated early
90% DRX reaches the finals

PRX gave the best fight against DRX so far

TLDR: DRX vs PRX finals

Agreed. Every region has firepower and we are at the stage of the game where 99% of the agents are viable which translates to so much more variety in team comps. Unfortunately the production hasn't been super smooth so far

Bro trust me when I say nobody gives a fuck. They leave a comment on how retarded you are and you LAUGH. Like I said, probably due to the lack of attention from ur parents and everyone else around you

thats exactly what would explain ur fatherless behavior

What the fuck do you think kinks are for? To make you feel bad?

lack of parental love gave this person some sort of humiliation kink LMFAO

All good lol

??? who cares about standings it's still not "after 1 win" like the guy said idiot

Xerxia literally eliminated optic in champions for playoff spot, it's not "1 Win" dumbass

Lmao

Downvote if v1 sucks

They were in the NA playoffs for Masters 3 (top 8 NA) but went 0-2 which didnt give them enough pts for LCQ

Late game gambit is the scariest team in valorant