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Top 3 IGL of all time
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HOW TF ARE VALYN AND MUNCHKIN TOP 3 ALL TIME???? HOW IS NATS IN THE GOAT IGL CONVO ALREADY (goat sentinel obviously but not even close to goat igl yet)??? ARE U VLR PEOPLE THAT NEW???
Boaster Saadhak FNS Ange1 Munchkin is easily top 5 ALL TIME. fucking Valyn hasnt even won a trophy yet. Munchkin hasnt been even close to as relevant as the 4 after Boaster I mentioned.
HOW TF IS THIS THREAD GETTING UPVOTES???????????
he is a top 20 igl but no way he is close to top 5 . It was more abt potter and zikz being goated coaches and developing randoms to world class players
wait ngl that's true. I might have been too affected by the recency bias during shanghai last year. time to make some changes
bro but dont change boostio's position dramatically like out of top 20 or smth like that or 18th like potter and zikz developed them . Boostio helped them excecute it while being a good fragger in champs and master '23
bro like you should drastically put him down like potter and zikz developed the guys but boostio helped the plans excecute and lead them , while fragging really when esp in masters and champs '23 so ya . Prolly about 9 to 11 is a good spot for him .
But doesnt Valyn need a Masters trophy too then? Dont get me wrong he is good, but when you cant win something.
yeah i remember towards ends of stage2 he took over calling ,thats why i was confused over someone wanting him to be called among goats
maybe if we were talking about senti but he just hasnt been an igl for long enough
yeah bro because he is igl since a half season but he will be good in future
If we're talking all time, FNS/Stax > Valyn. Valyn not in the conversation yet. Win international trophy first.
Same goes for Boaster if you apply that logic too no? Im not tryna go against Boaster here just mentioning your point.
we talking igls which means regarding their calls and leading teams not mechanical ability
NRG kicked FNS out, why?? Because old man couldn't hold his gun properly
yeah and not because of his calling. it's top 3 igls not top 3 fragging igls
Fragging is essential part of the game. If not the coaches would be running the scene?
in general yes, fragging is essential i agree. but not in this conversation. it's about who calls the best and not who gets the most kills
they both won international trophies. Also stax can aim, the pearl diffuse moment against G2.
you can’t be top 3 oat without some international achievements
let valyn win something first then we can talk about putting him in goat convos
He is the only one who clawed his way back from tier 2 and dominate the scene
the sarcasm doesnt work when the 5 I listed all have international trophies and valyn doesnt
then i could nominate nobody from edg
all the regionals except 2025 stage 1
1st in champs, 3rd in Masters Bangkok
valyn cannot be added to to greatest igl debates till he wins a masters or champs
even if he won Toronto, he isnt top 5 all time yet. if he won champs, maybe (probably)
Im fine if johnqt isn’t there but surely he’s an honourable mention right?, he’s been playing really well
i mean munchkin does shoot way better and has accomplished almost just as much in a significantly shorter timespan
personally would say boaster is still the "goat" though
Yeah, munchkin is good but boaster has been here since the inception. No one is stealing the top spot from him for a long time.
Maybe but boaster has longevity. Not sure Munchkin would be able to dethrone him. But two more masters and we can have a conversation on that.
Munchkin isnt close to what boaster has achieved yet, if he wins another then he would almost be there
These people don't know how much boaster has achieved as a igl. Munchkin hasn't even placed in top 8 in any champs till date. While boaster has multiple deep runs in champs as well as masters he didn't win. He has insane longevity in this game. Been at the top from beginning.
lol munchkin already outcalled boaster once in shanghai hes gonna do it again :)
Sorry not top 3 material. Would include in hall of fame with FNS. But we talking about the goats.
Munchkin, Valyn
too recent bias, Valyn also hasnt even won yet with a single top 2 performance, so not enough tangible success either.
I think you still have to put FNS in there, and the 3rd pick can be whatever you want stax, munchkin, nobody, valyn, nats, saadhak, boo all depends what you value
Boaster>FNS>saadhak, all 3 soon to be overtaken by nAts, but anyone other than these 3 in a top 3 all time list of igls is a bad take.
no mention for all time for FNS, Saadhaak, Stax, or ANGE1 is criminal.
Boaster valid
Valyns been pretty good but hasn't won a trophy yet. Once he does he'd 100% be on there
Munchkin probably in the top 10 but can't in good faith say he's above any of the 4 I mentioned all time, but its close with Stax and ANGE1 currently.
IMO the list that way would be
- Boaster
- Saadhaak
- FNS
4a. Ange1
4b. Valyn - Stax
- Munchkin
Guys like Boostio, D4v4i, and Nats could honestly make top 10.
Top 10 maybe, He still won a championship and has managed to stay in tier 1 valo for all 5 seasons of it. Nowhere near above anyone else I listed. Who else would you put on a top 10?
Boaster greatest IGL of time followed by FNS , Saadhaak , Munchkin , Valyn , Boostio , JohnQt and the rest
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