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florescent should get on a top tier 1 team

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#1
lyssss

Y'all's hate is disgusting, ur ruining her career just like you did with sinatraa and this has even less proof than that, literally everything has been disproven and both girls accusing her deactivated their accounts and never appeared again, shes innocent she should play

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laifu
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envy if they ascend

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KiwiJuice
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saw her play with ion and cane in pugs before, wouldn't be the craziest move

#122
I_LOVE_LESS
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she won a funhavers vs tsm with them and nightz too

#127
jamONE
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Winning pugs and playing mickey mouse tournaments aren't going to net her a Tier 1 offer. It ain't it.

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I_LOVE_LESS
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#1 in acs in a VCT event is going to net her one if she wants to play :)

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Arun777
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yea but teams dont want to take risks ig

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BerLINglazer
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someone said "florescent's work ethic sucks cus she left the team mid season for being homesick" like few days ago on vlr and ngl that might be the stupidest argument that i ever heard in my life

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macncheese
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r they wrong lol she litr did ditch the team to die mid season bc she couldnt take living in berlin. its objectively what happened. validity of reasons aside its just a shitty thing to do to ur team

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BerLINglazer
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yea ur totally right florescent shouldve just kept playing with apeks and compromised her mental health despite apeks saying that her wellbeing is the most important thing for them

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Tempest24
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rare w berlinglazer

#21
BerLINglazer
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i always spit w

#28
Conceit
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This is actually real shit from you. She already suffers from depression, if her place of work is making her more depressed she shouldn't work there, it's pretty simple

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Kirya
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Her being depressed is one of the reasons why she wont be on any teams
Managers take into account someones mental health most of the time and now that people saw that she did act very immature and weird/manipulative they prolly wont ever do anything with her ngl

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Conceit
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I agree! That's not what I'm arguing against, I don't think she'll get a team. I just think it's a dishonest framing to paint her as having a bad work ethic or being homesick when it's clear she has mental health issues, and I don't think it's a shitty thing for her to have done for leaving them in that circumstance.

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Aminbg02
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everyone is sacrificing something for the team

#47
Quack23456
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What did avova sacrifice lol

#51
BoF7ooM
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the team's chances of winning a single game the whole season

#63
BerLINglazer
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are you fucking serious

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serot
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Tbf every single player in VCT is leaving friends and family behind to compete. If you aren't ready to handle that you should have never taken the offer.

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ant9
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This Berlin guy just might be slow

#106
Ahnri
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Not their mental health… what you get a wrist or hand injury and “oh well it’s a sacrifice keep playing through it.” ? wtf are we talking about.

#107
Wolfed
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I agree.
vlr is extremely transphobic - nothing you say in favor of any trans person will get an upvote on here. I recently asked people to use they/them pronouns for Clove bc its just not that difficult, and I got downvoted into oblivion… !

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Shimaa
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its not transphobic to dislike a person over very serious allegations

#111
Wolfed
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flag + there was 0 proof and the accusers have deleted everything including their accounts

#114
Shimaa
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??? xd
theres dozens of screenshots still out there of what she did and theyre not hard to find maybe take a second to look instead of talking nonsense, the google doc accusing her with PROOF is still up lmao

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Wolfed
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“This message was deleted” when its mazino but when flordiddy has just as little proof we keep it up 🔥

genuine question - is there actual proof of flor grooving in that doc, or is it proof of flor being weird in dms? bc i only remember the latter

#119
Shimaa
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im not bothered to try accuse mazino theres way more proof on flordiddy and you know it
anddddd theres 2 docs so expand your horizon and read <3

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lyssss
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i do get where they're coming from but most of her problem was berlin, so if she gets in americas she will be fine, also the disrespect on that thread is insane they're most likely just transphobic, its understandable for a person to want to stop playing for mental issues and they were talking about her like she's the fucking devil

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Goatfnc
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Pretty bold coming from the stupidest person on this website

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BerLINglazer
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sigma
you get in my way
imma feed you to the sigma
normal during the day but at night turn to a sigma
when the moon shines yea i turn into rizzler i look like a villan like ohio man
sigma
rizzler fanum tax sigma
emote on the dance floor the retail row market
rizz
skibidi rizzler
emote on the dance floor
retail row market

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Goatfnc
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Already proved my point. Didn't even took a min lol

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BerLINglazer
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sigma
you get in my way
imma feed you to the sigma
normal during the day but at night turn to a sigma
when the moon shines yea i turn into rizzler i look like a villan like ohio man
sigma
rizzler fanum tax sigma
emote on the dance floor the retail row market
rizz
skibidi rizzler
emote on the dance floor
retail row market

#17
lyssss
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"goatfnc" btw🥀

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macncheese
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pr disaster. the trans community deserves better representation than flor

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Anguibok
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I donno what we deserve, but every interview she made she sounds as a broken person that just needed the warmest hug ever, I kinda feel empathy a lot when I see her talking, seeing a girl fighting her own demon, it's a good representant, and nobody is perfect. We need to seek for humanity instead of seeking perfection and moral vertue.
As a trans I rather sheer for a girl accused falsely than someone that will promote the end of presumption of innocence as I can say a lot in my community (But I'm probably not representative oftrans community)

Fuck PR

#58
lyssss
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istg for these people it's just pr like bro that's a real person and she was 18 at the time

#69
Anguibok
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Humanism is sadly dying over the virtue of signaling, what a sad time x)

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bobwoblob
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if you wanna hug diddy, then go for it

#72
Anguibok
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Only allegations.

The only reason why I wont hug her, is that because I doubt she want

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Kaust
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Regardless, I don't know about TOP tier 1 team :/

#8
dort
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heard there's some tier 3 teams in china looking for scraps, florescent should venture there

#12
lyssss
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regardless of u being transphobic, she is objectively Tier1 level player, and would do incredible on a good team

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dort
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how exactly is that transphobic you fucking retard

#22
lyssss
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she's good, and u cant admit simply cause ur transphobic, noone would think that if u were a fucking normal person

#25
dort
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oh ok

#29
t0p1
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Good in the game, but what about the brain

#100
ant9
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Any criticism of flor is transphobia duh

#19
Tempest24
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fart

#35
Finland
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oh man China would never take flor and you know why

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Stormyv8
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oh shit the infamous dort is back

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flyingthundercod
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it's not an issue of talent, not hate. she's simply too much of a risk now, just like sinatraa was. The talent is there obviously, but then again there are a lot of talented players whose pasts are not tainted.

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Pookie121
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Bum

#23
wizurdsss
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yea and its only fair we do just like we did with him if its real its fucked if not too bad figure out how to not get claimed in some kind of wierd tihng

#24
scarlemange
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W
There are too many disgusting individuals in this community. It's refreshing to see someone speaking the truth.

#62
scarlemange
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Getting downfragged decisively proves my point.

#64
Pookie121
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hard truth

#68
lyssss
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literally, the more downvotes the more u guys prove to be transphobic

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scarlemange
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fr fr

#27
SXNFLGJL
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flordiddy

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m4
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im just baiting here because its not even close to how better it actually is on LoL, and its not even pacific there but just south korea, to get an idea they have 9 trophies while the second region (china) only has 3

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bobwoblob
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get on a top chinese t4 team maybe

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Finland
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#35

#39
bobwoblob
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what?

nvm I saw. Idk then EMEA t4

#32
karie
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nah i still exist 😆

#33
HoldMyStick
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He ruined his own career

#34
Anguibok
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Few more year, and we can have the best storytell ever, "presumption of innocence esport" with all the dropped player, do we have other beside flor and Sinatra ?

#38
emptybackis
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We need the Rosetta stone for ts

#42
Anguibok
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Is they are som concept you didnt get ?

#56
emptybackis
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ohhh okeanos can flex

#37
juho
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GE flor 🔥

#40
aiminverylabs
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pr disaster.

#43
Shimaa
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heard shes going diddyscent e sports

#44
lyssss
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5 posts and 4 about insulting florescent and you want me to believe people who hate her arent just transphobic

#46
Shimaa
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learn to read please the other 2 are about another player
plus stop bringing identity into this you're just downplaying the impact on the victim
plus idk what her being trans has got to do with this, she has allegations

#48
lyssss
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thats a lot of words to just admit ur transphobic

#49
Pookie121
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everything = transphobic lmao i cant

#50
Kirya
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So we just ignore that she was being super manipulative suicide baiting and even her ex teammates called out her for being weird. Plus posted stuff like "r*pe should be legal" on twitter and etc which just shows that she's super immature as a person
Yeah she didnt commit any crime but she acts like a mentally ill person so I dont think any org would want to have anything with her

#54
lyssss
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SIX lines of text to just admit ur transphobic is lowkey crazy

#57
Kirya
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U r an obvious baiter this text was meant for other users cause some people in this thread actually believe that 😔

#66
lyssss
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aside from me baiting, I actually dont think shes an evil person, that tweet ur referring to was from when she was 13/14 and the whole relationships were from when she was 15/16. She obviously wasnt a very mature person and she was toxic, but (i know it sounds crazy), its not that rare to find teenagers relationships like that. She WAS a mentally ill person, and probably still is severely depressed, which is why i understand that teams wouldn't get her, but my post goes to the people that keep missgendering her, keep calling her flordiddy even though she never committed anything and just act like she's the devil. That relationship was between 15yr olds and a lot of the hate she receives is indeed transphobia.

#73
Kirya
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Yeah she might not be an evil person but someone being depressed/suicidal with no bad intentions is still a red flag for scouters and managers. The transphobia thing I dont disagree with

#74
karie
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you are like top level parasocial about her icl and you lack the critical thinking skills and clearly dont really know what you're talking about But these vlr threads entertain me so keep it going

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lyssss
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how am i parasocial, this is stuff she herself described in the files when she was getting accused, its not like i searched, i read them to understand if she was wrong or nah

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karie
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assuming you know who I am you should understand why i call your assumptions parasocial and find it funny how you lack critical thinking skills and like you keep talking about how the only reason people don't like her is transphobia and you refuse to believe people have opposing opinions and believe her to be guilty as opposed to innocent without assuming it fueled by malicious intent

#82
lyssss
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idk who u are why would I? also i dont think the only reason is transphobia, if i said that its bait because its obvious that she had very strong allegations. i do still think a lot of the hate is transphobia and people are too harsh on her, also possibly most of the people judging (like you) probably never read those files so u dont even know what happened, how would u understand the case if u didnt read it? why would ur opinion matter at all

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karie
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you not knowing who I am just proves to me that you're delusion I am the original poster of the document LMFAO i knew her personally for years prior and i cannot believe you just outed yourself because anyone who genuinely knew anything about the situation or cared would also know who i am because i was the frontrunner for the victim I know more than 99% of people so how would u understand the case if you didn't know any of these people personally? why would your opinion matter at all

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lyssss
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oh LOL aint no way ur actually karie, i was not looking at the name my bad, i do in fact know who u are

#90
lyssss
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considering the chats that flor posted, i would have 0 belief in you

#81
Juniper_Justice
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you're making the trans community look bad please stop posting forever

#83
lyssss
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I'm the only defender in this community.

#84
MerkFreeks
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what a weird thing to say if pointing out terrible behavior is transphobic.

farmers league performer.

#85
lyssss
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seems like we found another one🥀🥀🥀

#67
espeon
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werent those tweets from when she was deadass in like middle school

#71
lyssss
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deadass they cant stop finding ways to hate her

#79
Kirya
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Yeah
But someone acting that way in the first place a lot of the time means that they have some issues. It could be just a bad childhood and they could be not a bad person at all and actually kind but they would still have some borderline issues like low self esteem insecurities anxiety and etc and these things even though dont hurt anyone but still make it way harder to work with the person overall so managers would prefer someone else

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espeon
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i mean you can say this but at the same time realize that when you are a young kid on the internet, you are exposed to a lot of dumb shit and when you are that young you are very impressionable. now am i saying that she doesnt have anything going on mentally? no, but what's the difference between this situation and newzera?

regarding the allegations, considering it's literally two docs with one just being wiped from twitter, other than your own opinions it's just impossible to come to a conclusion

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Kirya
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This is the thing lmao
Her leaving apeks and her behaviour just indicate some mental issues even tho its not 100% or proven
But as a manager you still have to take it into consideration because picking up someone who might be not well mentally/depressed is a huge risk even if they are good at the game. Idc about allegations and think the r*pe thing was fake either way im not rly talking abt that

#125
TheFumbler
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And thats even more weirder. Who tf even says stuff like that in middle school? Where tf were her parents?
Any decent person would want to keep distance from someone like that. I bet if Apeks knew about that, they wouldnt even consider her for the team.

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juicyburgers
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hello...

the people who mock are foolish... they have personal hate and anger bias.......

either hate for gc.... or hate for trans people......

mostly europeeans....... yuck............

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scarlemange
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w

#53
Koogz
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0/8

https://www.vlr.gg/576711/story-of-how-i-turned-into-a-twink-catboy/#1

#55
lyssss
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I'm crine😭

#60
SudokuDude
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It's just how it is with controversies.

#75
lyssss
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mazino still competing at the top of tier 1 btw

#76
SudokuDude
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no evidence on him being a bad person.

#77
bobwoblob
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jerking off to widowmaker is a lot different than SA

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goat1594
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Notexxd and Jerrwin/Kaoticc

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Tilinogmez12
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Diddlybludescent

#95
4so4so4so
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she quit her team 1 split in cause they lost a few games LOL

#101
jamONE
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if people weren't giving sinatraa a fair shot to come back, they shouldn't give one for flor to come back. that's life.

#112
SudokuDude
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Then that means they never learned to not jump to conclusions. If I made a twitlonger saying Ardiis touched me, they'd believe me just like that.

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teilwal
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ardiis aint touching u SudokuDude

#117
SudokuDude
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You right I'm too fast for him. But it seems vlr fails to see the point all jokes aside.

#120
SiwooHaechok
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Well they do have the talent to be in a Tier 1 roster that's for sure, but among all the teams who would be willing to take the risk? I feel like in 2026 everyone wants results before the re-evaluation of each team for Franchising. I get that she won multiple GC champs and titles but her small stint in APEKs honestly tainted that whole legacy that she was building for herself. She wasn't ready to move to another country/region she took the risk and failed due to mental health which is fine but in 2026 whoever takes this risk will have the chance of losing it all if they dont perform again

#123
Finland
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How are we ruining this person's career? If someone wants to sign this person, then they can do so. It has nothing to do with us vlr users

#126
jamONE
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ikr, people making it sound like staff and management are scouring through random reddit, vlr, and public forums for feedback, lmao.

#124
StrafingGoatWoweeClap
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now are you gonna bet your brand on risk for an unproven player?

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