CHRON vs ASPAS decided

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Chronicle:
Role: Initiator -> Flex (Controller, Duelist) -> Flex (Sentinel, Initiator)
International Events attended: 10/16
Top 1: 3
Top 2: 7
Top 4: 8
Top 8: 10
International MVPs:

Berlin 2021 (1.26 rating) - according to Liquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics

International Ratings: Average = 1.16

Total Rounds: 2884
- 1.26 * (306 rounds)
- 1.19 * (356 rounds)
- 1.10 * (307 rounds)
- 1.19 * (210 rounds)
- 0.94 * (270 rounds)
- N/A
- 1.21 * (293 rounds)
- 1.13 * (419 rounds)
- 1.30 * (279 rounds)
- 1.09 * (453 rounds)
Average rating with rounds for each stat being weighted: 1.15640429958 -> 1.16
Average rating with rounds for each stat being weighted WITHOUT EWC: 1.14102495202 -> 1.14

Tier 1 Teams: https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

GAMBIT (#1 2021)
FNATIC (#1 2023, #8 2024, current: #1 2025)

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Aspas:
Role: Duelist
International Events attended: 10/16
Top 1: 1
Top 2: 3
Top 4: 5
Top 8: 7
International MVPs:

Champs 2022 (0.99 rating) - according to Liquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics

International Ratings: Average = 1.11

Total Rounds: 2525
- 1.18 (240 rounds)
- 1.04 (136 rounds)
- 0.99 (366 rounds)
- 1.11 (380 rounds)
- 1.11 (80 rounds)
- 1.15 (515 rounds)
- N/A
- 1.14 (407 rounds)
- 0.53 (71 rounds)
- 1.33 (330 rounds)
Average rating with rounds being weighted: 1.11213465347 -> 1.11

Tier 1 Teams: https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

LOUD (#2 2022, #4 2023)
LEV (#7 2024)
MIBR (current: #14 2025)

Conclusion: Chronicle is better.

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beayuh

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allat

aspas clears

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sentinelmain377

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when u know you're biased and wrong ^

edit: I have yet to receive any logical argument against this 🥀

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1nshh

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okay bro we believe u now go to sleep

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beayuh

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has chronicle ever been able to carry xenom to top 6 at champs?

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sentinelmain377

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woah you REALLY got me there.

where is your proof that he cant do that? give me evidence/stats instead

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beayuh

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https://imgur.com/a/dRXbia9

+1 on your "goat"

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sentinelmain377

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shiver me timbers. a h2h match now decides the GOAT according to beayuh

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beayuh

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glad to see you know the truth. beayuh appreciation is always appreciated

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serot

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no evidence because he has been on two teams his entire career and both of them were full of players better than him

carried by nats and mind controlled by redgar on gambit
carried by leo, kaajak, and alfa while being mindcontrolled by boaster on fnatic (the winningest team of all time to date)

and suddenly he's the "goat" for having good stats while perma winning with fnatic, playing recon and viper
if he had bad stats it would be a crime, he is winning literally all the time and playing the easiest role to trade out and bait on

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AkameMNT

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Hes been carrying a worse shooter for ages tho?

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beayuh

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ones the best igl of all time and the other is xenom

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AkameMNT

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Thats not what people say when FNC loses 1 game or map. Its always immediately 'kick boaster' or 'they can never win with boaster' etc

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beayuh

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well im not one of those people

edit: i see your point, i think that i see more people appreciating boaster than appreciating xenom though.

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DBStudios

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No one says that anymore lmao, if they do they are js baiting. Plus boaster has been popping off in some games so he’s not even dead weight anymore

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AkameMNT

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What? A LOT of people still say that, just wait for FNC to have a bad game and where boaster goes hard negative, u'll see

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sentinelmain377

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what world are u living in?

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Meatyball

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Tell me how many of chrons Internationals has he been the best player on his team.

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babysasuke

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Plumbers era masters
Not a masters
Roster Nuke masters

Mid to ass performance in all of them

My GOAT

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1nshh

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😀👍

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Yuh_aye

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Bro trying so hard to mix the team and individual stats to make it look like this is close 😂

Chron wasn't even top 3 players on FNC '23

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Yuh_aye

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Nah and he tried to erase Nats legacy too bruh we all know who mvp'd Berlin

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sentinelmain377

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nah i 100% agree with nAts mvp lol. nAts is why I started watching VCT and main Cypher lol

but aspas fans use liquipedia to say aspas was champs 2022 mvp when he wasnt, so i gotta use that against em.

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chronicle officially won the mvp for berlin, same way aspas won it for istanbul

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z4kr9

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isnt pancada mvp for champs '22 istanbul

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sentinelmain377

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for some reason, liquipedia is out of touch with the general community opinion on the MVPs for pre-franchising

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sentinelmain377

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aspas wasn't even top 3 players on LOUD '22 internationally

fact

pancada/less/sacy cleared

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alienista1

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you are wrong and you know it. aspas was by far loud best player at masters 1, was decent at masters 2, and solid at champs(his rating doesnt reflect his impact). if you count regional play too, he was without a doubt loud best player this year

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sentinelmain377

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(his rating doesnt reflect his impact)

hmm, i wonder if you would also say this about Chronicle?

hypocrisy at its finest.

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alienista1

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we are all hypocrites to some degree bro. the fact that you ignored 90% of my text just to attack a strawman proves it

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AkameMNT

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Don't show this to the Brazilians

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fiv5Mmmmm

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Are u still pushing Chronicle > Aspas?
Bro, don't lie to yourselves, everyone knows Aspas is better

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sentinelmain377

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you guys do not watch Valorant lmao.

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AkameMNT

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Better shooter? Sure
Better player? No

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Sky1k

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aspas is better in both bro watchu on

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AkameMNT

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Aspas is NOT a better player than chronicle

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serot

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Chronicle:

3rd party unofficial mickey mouse MVP award
playing baiting stat pad roles his whole career like recon, senti, and smokes
peaked in dino era, carried by FNATIC superstars the rest of his career.
literally impossible to have bad stats playing with 3+ top players in their respective roles with boaster or redgar mind controlling you

Aspas:

won in his rookie year on a good team
left said good team and joined mid ones only to solo drag them to top international placements
3 teams with way worse rosters on average than chronicle's, top performance nonetheless
holder of multiple kill records in VCT

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yukky

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hey did u know that there is an extension that lets you compare the two players?!

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Uncleben

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W promo

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AkameMNT

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Yes I do, its called 'the brain'. A lot of vlr users should try to use it

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yukky

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no!

it’s this:
https://www.vlr.gg/553254/yukkys-vlr/#1

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destroylonely

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chronibum will never be better

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kuinnness

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"Tier 1 Teams:

GAMBIT (#1 2021)
FNATIC (#1 2023, #8 2024, current: #1-4 2025)

Tier 1 Teams:

LOUD (#2 2022, #4 2023)
LEV (#7 2024)
MIBR (current: #2-13 2025)"

what does this stuff mean? is it meant to be the best placements from each team they have been on? or is it the average placement across the year?

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sentinelmain377

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https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

it is based on this objective team ranking (99% based on average international placements) for every year.
however, if a team has a trophy, their average placement is only compared to other teams with trophies and they are put above any teams without trophies (best example is EDG and SEN above TH in 2024)

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kuinnness

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wait these are your own ratings. Idk if these really work as metric in this context. Maybe do average placement at internationals that might be a better way to get your point across.

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glittering_yard

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Counterpoint: Both Derke and Nats already said Aspas is the GOAT even tho both of them played WITH Chronicle

Aspas's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!
Chronicle's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!

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sentinelmain377

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i need proof or I cannot trust u
Derke was likely being humble. that is fs

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Yuh_aye

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https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see

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glittering_yard

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Nats: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=427

Derke: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=133

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destroylonely

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this alone should just settle it

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sentinelmain377

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bro both of those are rushed ass responses where they cant say themselves to be humble (especially the Derke one)

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glittering_yard

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If the first name that comes to their minds is aspas, then it is what it is, Derke didnt even think twice. Nats put a lot of thought into it and also said aspas. chronicle was not even mentioned

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1nshh

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don't bother my guy op is allergic to common sense

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Sky1k

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chrons kd doesnt matter he always played with great teams while aspas changed teams twice

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https://www.vlr.gg/542202/mibr-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2025-winners-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance

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SenseiAces

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Aspas literally being the best player in 3 out of 4 of these head to heads is insane tbh. Also Chron the worst performer in 3 of 4.

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molayking3

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You literally averaged the ratings without factoring in rounds played so aspas's shitty toronto performance where he played like 50 rounds is weighted the same as his champs 2023 over like 400 rounds

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sentinelmain377

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eh ill consider doing that when im a bit more free than rn

good point though

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z4kr9

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finally a stat wise arguement which isnt only the "eYe T3sT"

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Marii

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You again
Now state the position on their team they were rated for each of these
And compare their teammates to one another

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sentinelmain377

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irrelevant

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Marii

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Man im asking you for how much of these ratings was chronicle the highest on his team 🫩

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put chronicle on an mibr level team and see what happens