CHRON vs ASPAS decided

Chronicle:
Role: Initiator -> Flex (Controller, Duelist) -> Flex (Sentinel, Initiator)
International Events attended: 10/16
Top 1: 3
Top 2: 7
Top 4: 8
Top 8: 10
International MVPs:

1. Berlin 2021 (1.26 rating) - according to Liquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics

International Ratings: Average = 1.16

Total Rounds: 2884
- 1.26 * (306 rounds)
- 1.19 * (356 rounds)
- 1.10 * (307 rounds)
- 1.19 * (210 rounds)
- 0.94 * (270 rounds)
- N/A
- 1.21 * (293 rounds)
- 1.13 * (419 rounds)
- 1.30 * (279 rounds)
- 1.09 * (453 rounds)
Average rating with rounds for each stat being weighted: 1.15640429958 -> 1.16
Average rating with rounds for each stat being weighted WITHOUT EWC: 1.14102495202 -> 1.14

Tier 1 Teams: https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

1. GAMBIT (#1 2021)
2. FNATIC (#1 2023, #8 2024, current: #1 2025)

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Aspas:
Role: Duelist
International Events attended: 10/16
Top 1: 1
Top 2: 3
Top 4: 5
Top 8: 7
International MVPs:

1. Champs 2022 (0.99 rating) - according to Liquipedia: https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Champions_Tour/Statistics

International Ratings: Average = 1.11

Total Rounds: 2525
- 1.18 (240 rounds)
- 1.04 (136 rounds)
- 0.99 (366 rounds)
- 1.11 (380 rounds)
- 1.11 (80 rounds)
- 1.15 (515 rounds)
- N/A
- 1.14 (407 rounds)
- 0.53 (71 rounds)
- 1.33 (330 rounds)
Average rating with rounds being weighted: 1.11213465347 -> 1.11

Tier 1 Teams: https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

1. LOUD (#2 2022, #4 2023)
2. LEV (#7 2024)
3. MIBR (current: #14 2025)

Conclusion: Chronicle is better.

allat

aspas clears

beayuh [#2]

allat

aspas clears

when u know you're biased and wrong ^

edit: I have yet to receive any logical argument against this 🥀

😀👍

Bro trying so hard to mix the team and individual stats to make it look like this is close 😂

Chron wasn't even top 3 players on FNC '23

Don't show this to the Brazilians

Are u still pushing Chronicle > Aspas?
Bro, don't lie to yourselves, everyone knows Aspas is better

Yuh_aye [#5]

Bro trying so hard to mix the team and individual stats to make it look like this is close 😂

Chron wasn't even top 3 players on FNC '23

Nah and he tried to erase Nats legacy too bruh we all know who mvp'd Berlin

Yuh_aye [#8]

Nah and he tried to erase Nats legacy too bruh we all know who mvp'd Berlin

nah i 100% agree with nAts mvp lol. nAts is why I started watching VCT and main Cypher lol

but aspas fans use liquipedia to say aspas was champs 2022 mvp when he wasnt, so i gotta use that against em.

fiv5Mmmmm [#7]

Are u still pushing Chronicle > Aspas?
Bro, don't lie to yourselves, everyone knows Aspas is better

you guys do not watch Valorant lmao.

fiv5Mmmmm [#7]

Are u still pushing Chronicle > Aspas?
Bro, don't lie to yourselves, everyone knows Aspas is better

Better shooter? Sure
Better player? No

Yuh_aye [#8]

Nah and he tried to erase Nats legacy too bruh we all know who mvp'd Berlin

chronicle officially won the mvp for berlin, same way aspas won it for istanbul

sentinelmain377 [#3]

when u know you're biased and wrong ^

edit: I have yet to receive any logical argument against this 🥀

okay bro we believe u now go to sleep

sentinelmain377 [#3]

when u know you're biased and wrong ^

edit: I have yet to receive any logical argument against this 🥀

has chronicle ever been able to carry xenom to top 6 at champs?

beayuh [#14]

has chronicle ever been able to carry xenom to top 6 at champs?

woah you REALLY got me there.

where is your proof that he cant do that? give me evidence/stats instead

beayuh [#14]

has chronicle ever been able to carry xenom to top 6 at champs?

Hes been carrying a worse shooter for ages tho?

AkameMNT [#16]

Hes been carrying a worse shooter for ages tho?

ones the best igl of all time and the other is xenom

Chronicle:

• 3rd party unofficial mickey mouse MVP award
• playing baiting stat pad roles his whole career like recon, senti, and smokes
• peaked in dino era, carried by FNATIC superstars the rest of his career.
• literally impossible to have bad stats playing with 3+ top players in their respective roles with boaster or redgar mind controlling you

Aspas:

• won in his rookie year on a good team
• left said good team and joined mid ones only to solo drag them to top international placements
• 3 teams with way worse rosters on average than chronicle's, top performance nonetheless
• holder of multiple kill records in VCT

sentinelmain377 [#15]

woah you REALLY got me there.

where is your proof that he cant do that? give me evidence/stats instead

https://imgur.com/a/dRXbia9

+1 on your "goat"

hey did u know that there is an extension that lets you compare the two players?!

Yuh_aye [#5]

Bro trying so hard to mix the team and individual stats to make it look like this is close 😂

Chron wasn't even top 3 players on FNC '23

aspas wasn't even top 3 players on LOUD '22 internationally

fact

pancada/less/sacy cleared

yukky [#20]

hey did u know that there is an extension that lets you compare the two players?!

W promo

yukky [#20]

hey did u know that there is an extension that lets you compare the two players?!

Yes I do, its called 'the brain'. A lot of vlr users should try to use it

beayuh [#19]

https://imgur.com/a/dRXbia9

+1 on your "goat"

shiver me timbers. a h2h match now decides the GOAT according to beayuh

sentinelmain377 [#15]

woah you REALLY got me there.

where is your proof that he cant do that? give me evidence/stats instead

no evidence because he has been on two teams his entire career and both of them were full of players better than him

carried by nats and mind controlled by redgar on gambit
carried by leo, kaajak, and alfa while being mindcontrolled by boaster on fnatic (the winningest team of all time to date)

and suddenly he's the "goat" for having good stats while perma winning with fnatic, playing recon and viper
if he had bad stats it would be a crime, he is winning literally all the time and playing the easiest role to trade out and bait on

sentinelmain377 [#24]

shiver me timbers. a h2h match now decides the GOAT according to beayuh

glad to see you know the truth. beayuh appreciation is always appreciated

chronibum will never be better

"Tier 1 Teams:

GAMBIT (#1 2021)
FNATIC (#1 2023, #8 2024, current: #1-4 2025)

Tier 1 Teams:

LOUD (#2 2022, #4 2023)
LEV (#7 2024)
MIBR (current: #2-13 2025)"

what does this stuff mean? is it meant to be the best placements from each team they have been on? or is it the average placement across the year?

beayuh [#17]

ones the best igl of all time and the other is xenom

Thats not what people say when FNC loses 1 game or map. Its always immediately 'kick boaster' or 'they can never win with boaster' etc

kuinnness [#28]

"Tier 1 Teams:

GAMBIT (#1 2021)
FNATIC (#1 2023, #8 2024, current: #1-4 2025)

Tier 1 Teams:

LOUD (#2 2022, #4 2023)
LEV (#7 2024)
MIBR (current: #2-13 2025)"

what does this stuff mean? is it meant to be the best placements from each team they have been on? or is it the average placement across the year?

https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

it is based on this objective team ranking (99% based on average international placements) for every year.
however, if a team has a trophy, their average placement is only compared to other teams with trophies and they are put above any teams without trophies (best example is EDG and SEN above TH in 2024)

Counterpoint: Both Derke and Nats already said Aspas is the GOAT even tho both of them played WITH Chronicle

Aspas's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!
Chronicle's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!

glittering_yard [#31]

Counterpoint: Both Derke and Nats already said Aspas is the GOAT even tho both of them played WITH Chronicle

Aspas's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!
Chronicle's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!

i need proof or I cannot trust u
Derke was likely being humble. that is fs

AkameMNT [#29]

Thats not what people say when FNC loses 1 game or map. Its always immediately 'kick boaster' or 'they can never win with boaster' etc

well im not one of those people

edit: i see your point, i think that i see more people appreciating boaster than appreciating xenom though.

chrons kd doesnt matter he always played with great teams while aspas changed teams twice

AkameMNT [#11]

Better shooter? Sure
Better player? No

aspas is better in both bro watchu on

glittering_yard [#31]

Counterpoint: Both Derke and Nats already said Aspas is the GOAT even tho both of them played WITH Chronicle

Aspas's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!
Chronicle's teammates: Aspas is the GOAT!

don't bother my guy op is allergic to common sense

sentinelmain377 [#30]

https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year

it is based on this objective team ranking (99% based on average international placements) for every year.
however, if a team has a trophy, their average placement is only compared to other teams with trophies and they are put above any teams without trophies (best example is EDG and SEN above TH in 2024)

wait these are your own ratings. Idk if these really work as metric in this context. Maybe do average placement at internationals that might be a better way to get your point across.

sentinelmain377 [#32]

i need proof or I cannot trust u
Derke was likely being humble. that is fs

https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see

Sky1k [#35]

aspas is better in both bro watchu on

Aspas is NOT a better player than chronicle

sentinelmain377 [#32]

i need proof or I cannot trust u
Derke was likely being humble. that is fs

Nats: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=427

Derke: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=133

https://www.vlr.gg/542202/mibr-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2025-winners-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance

You literally averaged the ratings without factoring in rounds played so aspas's shitty toronto performance where he played like 50 rounds is weighted the same as his champs 2023 over like 400 rounds

kfan4238173 [#12]

chronicle officially won the mvp for berlin, same way aspas won it for istanbul

isnt pancada mvp for champs '22 istanbul

finally a stat wise arguement which isnt only the "eYe T3sT"

glittering_yard [#40]

Nats: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=427

Derke: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=133

this alone should just settle it

glittering_yard [#40]

Nats: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=427

Derke: https://youtu.be/n7NYMVaatxI?t=133

bro both of those are rushed ass responses where they cant say themselves to be humble (especially the Derke one)

molayking3 [#42]

You literally averaged the ratings without factoring in rounds played so aspas's shitty toronto performance where he played like 50 rounds is weighted the same as his champs 2023 over like 400 rounds

eh ill consider doing that when im a bit more free than rn

good point though

sentinelmain377 [#46]

bro both of those are rushed ass responses where they cant say themselves to be humble (especially the Derke one)

If the first name that comes to their minds is aspas, then it is what it is, Derke didnt even think twice. Nats put a lot of thought into it and also said aspas. chronicle was not even mentioned

AkameMNT [#23]

Yes I do, its called 'the brain'. A lot of vlr users should try to use it

no!

it’s this:
https://www.vlr.gg/553254/yukkys-vlr/#1

You again
Now state the position on their team they were rated for each of these
And compare their teammates to one another

put chronicle on an mibr level team and see what happens

Marii [#50]

You again
Now state the position on their team they were rated for each of these
And compare their teammates to one another

irrelevant

sentinelmain377 [#21]

aspas wasn't even top 3 players on LOUD '22 internationally

fact

pancada/less/sacy cleared

you are wrong and you know it. aspas was by far loud best player at masters 1, was decent at masters 2, and solid at champs(his rating doesnt reflect his impact). if you count regional play too, he was without a doubt loud best player this year

AkameMNT [#29]

Thats not what people say when FNC loses 1 game or map. Its always immediately 'kick boaster' or 'they can never win with boaster' etc

No one says that anymore lmao, if they do they are js baiting. Plus boaster has been popping off in some games so he’s not even dead weight anymore

sentinelmain377 [#3]

when u know you're biased and wrong ^

edit: I have yet to receive any logical argument against this 🥀

Tell me how many of chrons Internationals has he been the best player on his team.

sentinelmain377 [#52]

irrelevant

Man im asking you for how much of these ratings was chronicle the highest on his team 🫩

Meatyball [#55]

Tell me how many of chrons Internationals has he been the best player on his team.

Plumbers era masters
Not a masters
Roster Nuke masters

Mid to ass performance in all of them

My GOAT

number7_cNed_fan [#41]

https://www.vlr.gg/542202/mibr-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2025-winners-b/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance

Aspas literally being the best player in 3 out of 4 of these head to heads is insane tbh. Also Chron the worst performer in 3 of 4.

alienista1 [#53]

you are wrong and you know it. aspas was by far loud best player at masters 1, was decent at masters 2, and solid at champs(his rating doesnt reflect his impact). if you count regional play too, he was without a doubt loud best player this year

(his rating doesnt reflect his impact)

hmm, i wonder if you would also say this about Chronicle?

hypocrisy at its finest.

z4kr9 [#43]

isnt pancada mvp for champs '22 istanbul

for some reason, liquipedia is out of touch with the general community opinion on the MVPs for pre-franchising

DBStudios [#54]

No one says that anymore lmao, if they do they are js baiting. Plus boaster has been popping off in some games so he’s not even dead weight anymore

What? A LOT of people still say that, just wait for FNC to have a bad game and where boaster goes hard negative, u'll see

sentinelmain377 [#59]

(his rating doesnt reflect his impact)

hmm, i wonder if you would also say this about Chronicle?

hypocrisy at its finest.

we are all hypocrites to some degree bro. the fact that you ignored 90% of my text just to attack a strawman proves it

DBStudios [#54]

No one says that anymore lmao, if they do they are js baiting. Plus boaster has been popping off in some games so he’s not even dead weight anymore

what world are u living in?