February 8, 2025
12:00 PM EST
Patch 10.01
Team Heretics team logo
final
0 : 3
vs.
Bo5
Team Liquid team logo
TH ban Split; TL ban Pearl; TH pick Lotus; TL pick Abyss; TH pick Fracture; TL pick Haven; Bind remains
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0Team HereticsTH
Round 1/17
1Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 100 −700
Boo TH 0 −800
Wo0t TH 0 −800
MiniBoo TH 100 −700
RieNs TH 50 −750
nAts TL 50 −750
keiko TL 50 −750
kamo TL 0 −800
kamyk TL 100 −700
paTiTek TL 100 −700
0:57
keiko
MiniBoo
0:58
keiko
benjyfishy
1:01
Wo0t
keiko
1:01
nAts
Wo0t
1:02
kamo
Boo
1:03
RieNs
kamo
1:04
RieNs
kamyk
1:04
nAts
RieNs
0Team HereticsTH
Round 2/17
2Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 2,000 −0
Boo TH 1,500 −400
Wo0t TH 1,650 −450
MiniBoo TH 2,000 −0
RieNs TH 2,100 −250
nAts TL 150 −3,300
keiko TL 200 −3,250
kamo TL 150 −3,050
kamyk TL 250 −2,850
paTiTek TL 250 −2,850
1:00
keiko
benjyfishy
1:00
keiko
MiniBoo
1:21
kamyk
Wo0t
1:32
kamyk
Boo
1:32
kamyk
RieNs
0Team HereticsTH
Round 3/17
3Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 100 −4,300
Boo TH 300 −3,600
Wo0t TH 350 −3,700
MiniBoo TH 0 −4,400
RieNs TH 100 −4,400
nAts TL 2,650 −500
keiko TL 3,600 −0
kamo TL 2,450 −700
kamyk TL 3,700 −150
paTiTek TL 2,750 −500
0:22
kamo
Boo
0:33
Wo0t
kamyk
0:33
kamo
Wo0t
0:33
keiko
benjyfishy
0:39
RieNs
kamo
0:39
paTiTek
MiniBoo
0:40
RieNs
keiko
0:51
nAts
RieNs
0Team HereticsTH
Round 4/17
4Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 1,400 −1,600
Boo TH 1,250 −1,950
Wo0t TH 1,650 −1,800
MiniBoo TH 1,000 −1,900
RieNs TH 1,500 −1,900
nAts TL 5,150 −700
keiko TL 2,400 −4,400
kamo TL 1,250 −4,600
kamyk TL 2,400 −4,300
paTiTek TL 4,450 −1,500
1:00
nAts
Wo0t
1:03
RieNs
nAts
1:04
keiko
benjyfishy
1:18 Spike planted B by
MiniBoo
1:19
RieNs
kamo
1:27
kamyk
MiniBoo
1:28
paTiTek
RieNs
1:33
keiko
Boo
1:39 Spike defused B by
kamyk
1Team HereticsTH
Round 5/17
4Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 700 −3,900
Boo TH 50 −4,400
Wo0t TH 350 −4,500
MiniBoo TH 400 −3,800
RieNs TH 500 −4,600
nAts TL 3,650 −4,700
keiko TL 5,100 −700
kamo TL 2,450 −4,700
kamyk TL 5,000 −600
paTiTek TL 4,250 −500
0:11
MiniBoo
keiko
0:12
MiniBoo
paTiTek
0:14
Wo0t
kamo
0:30 Spike planted C by
RieNs
0:37
nAts
Boo
0:47
nAts
MiniBoo
0:48
RieNs
nAts
0:48
kamyk
RieNs
1:08
Wo0t
kamyk
1Team HereticsTH
Round 6/17
5Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 400 −700
Boo TH 1,850 −4,400
Wo0t TH 150 −1,000
MiniBoo TH 2,600 −4,400
RieNs TH 0 −4,000
nAts TL 1,050 −4,900
keiko TL 2,800 −4,200
kamo TL 1,050 −3,300
kamyk TL 2,600 −4,500
paTiTek TL 1,750 −4,400
0:04
kamyk
benjyfishy
0:07
keiko
Wo0t
0:12
keiko
MiniBoo
0:19
kamyk
RieNs
0:32
nAts
Boo
1Team HereticsTH
Round 7/17
6Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 1,100 −1,200
Boo TH 1,050 −2,700
Wo0t TH 2,050 −0
MiniBoo TH 1,200 −3,300
RieNs TH 1,100 −800
nAts TL 3,050 −1,200
keiko TL 5,750 −450
kamo TL 2,750 −1,300
kamyk TL 4,350 −1,650
paTiTek TL 4,250 −500
0:56
MiniBoo
kamyk
0:57
kamo
Boo
1:00
RieNs
kamo
1:01
kamyk
Wo0t
1:01
kamyk
benjyfishy
1:03
kamyk
RieNs
1:03
nAts
MiniBoo
2Team HereticsTH
Round 8/17
6Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 0 −3,500
Boo TH 50 −3,400
Wo0t TH 100 −4,350
MiniBoo TH 0 −3,800
RieNs TH 150 −3,550
nAts TL 5,550 −700
keiko TL 5,850 −2,900
kamo TL 4,150 −1,800
kamyk TL 6,600 −1,350
paTiTek TL 6,750 −500
1:03 Spike planted A by
RieNs
1:20
nAts
benjyfishy
1:21
MiniBoo
nAts
1:21
RieNs
kamo
1:22
Wo0t
paTiTek
1:23
MiniBoo
keiko
1:28
kamyk
MiniBoo
1:29
Boo
kamyk
2Team HereticsTH
Round 9/17
7Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 1,900 −4,300
Boo TH 50 −600
Wo0t TH 2,000 −1,600
MiniBoo TH 0 −3,700
RieNs TH 1,950 −1,700
nAts TL 2,750 −4,900
keiko TL 3,050 −4,700
kamo TL 1,450 −4,600
kamyk TL 4,200 −4,500
paTiTek TL 4,250 −4,400
1:11
nAts
MiniBoo
1:13
Boo
nAts
1:16
paTiTek
RieNs
1:16
kamyk
Wo0t
1:17
Boo
paTiTek
1:18
kamyk
benjyfishy
1:18
Boo
kamyk
1:20
keiko
Boo
2Team HereticsTH
Round 10/17
8Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 2,200 −1,600
Boo TH 2,150 −400
Wo0t TH 2,100 −1,800
MiniBoo TH 1,100 −800
RieNs TH 1,950 −1,900
nAts TL 1,550 −4,400
keiko TL 5,550 −700
kamo TL 3,750 −700
kamyk TL 3,100 −4,500
paTiTek TL 3,050 −4,400
0:19
keiko
MiniBoo
0:20
keiko
Boo
0:20
Wo0t
keiko
1:01
nAts
RieNs
1:02
nAts
benjyfishy
1:17
kamo
Wo0t
2Team HereticsTH
Round 11/17
9Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 500 −3,450
Boo TH 400 −4,150
Wo0t TH 500 −4,200
MiniBoo TH 250 −3,900
RieNs TH 350 −4,000
nAts TL 4,450 −500
keiko TL 4,750 −4,200
kamo TL 6,650 −300
kamyk TL 5,700 −400
paTiTek TL 5,550 −500
0:30
keiko
Wo0t
0:30
keiko
MiniBoo
0:45
kamyk
Boo
0:46
RieNs
kamyk
0:53
kamo
RieNs
0:53
kamo
benjyfishy
3Team HereticsTH
Round 12/17
9Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 350 −3,050
Boo TH 0 −3,300
Wo0t TH 50 −3,350
MiniBoo TH 100 −3,050
RieNs TH 150 −3,300
nAts TL 6,750 −700
keiko TL 7,450 −700
kamo TL 8,700 −300
kamyk TL 7,550 −1,350
paTiTek TL 5,450 −3,100
0:15
keiko
RieNs
0:18
Boo
keiko
0:19
kamo
benjyfishy
0:20
Wo0t
kamo
0:22
Wo0t
nAts
0:24
kamyk
MiniBoo
0:36 Spike planted C by
Boo
1:04
Boo
kamyk
1:08
Wo0t
paTiTek
3Team HereticsTH
Round 13/17
10Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 100 −700
Boo TH 0 −800
Wo0t TH 0 −800
MiniBoo TH 100 −700
RieNs TH 50 −750
nAts TL 50 −750
keiko TL 50 −750
kamo TL 0 −800
kamyk TL 50 −750
paTiTek TL 100 −700
0:16
RieNs
keiko
0:18
kamo
Boo
0:20
benjyfishy
kamo
1:17 Spike planted A by
nAts
1:37
kamyk
MiniBoo
1:39
kamyk
Wo0t
1:40
benjyfishy
kamyk
1:48
paTiTek
RieNs
1:51
nAts
benjyfishy
3Team HereticsTH
Round 14/17
11Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 1,600 −800
Boo TH 1,650 −250
Wo0t TH 1,600 −300
MiniBoo TH 1,050 −950
RieNs TH 1,350 −800
nAts TL 250 −3,300
keiko TL 50 −3,300
kamo TL 50 −3,450
kamyk TL 100 −3,650
paTiTek TL 150 −3,450
0:28
benjyfishy
kamo
0:31
kamyk
benjyfishy
1:20
Boo
kamyk
1:21
keiko
Boo
1:31 Spike planted A by
keiko
1:37
keiko
Wo0t
1:43
keiko
RieNs
1:43
paTiTek
MiniBoo
4Team HereticsTH
Round 15/17
11Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 300 −3,900
Boo TH 0 −4,250
Wo0t TH 100 −3,900
MiniBoo TH 150 −3,300
RieNs TH 0 −3,750
nAts TL 1,850 −1,700
keiko TL 1,950 −2,000
kamo TL 2,250 −1,100
kamyk TL 2,000 −1,600
paTiTek TL 2,150 −1,500
0:36
keiko
RieNs
0:36
MiniBoo
paTiTek
0:48
Wo0t
kamyk
0:51
Wo0t
kamo
0:52
Wo0t
nAts
0:57
MiniBoo
keiko
4Team HereticsTH
Round 16/17
12Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 2,700 −600
Boo TH 2,750 −250
Wo0t TH 2,100 −1,600
MiniBoo TH 150 −500
RieNs TH 1,550 −4,350
nAts TL 250 −3,500
keiko TL 550 −3,500
kamo TL 350 −3,800
kamyk TL 450 −3,450
paTiTek TL 750 −3,300
0:21
paTiTek
MiniBoo
0:22
Boo
paTiTek
0:29
kamo
RieNs
0:31
kamo
Boo
0:43 Spike planted A by
kamyk
1:05
kamo
Wo0t
1:08
kamo
benjyfishy
4Team HereticsTH
Round 17/17
13Team LiquidTL
benjyfishy TH 100 −4,500
Boo TH 450 −2,300
Wo0t TH 100 −3,900
MiniBoo TH 250 −3,900
RieNs TH 150 −3,300
nAts TL 1,550 −2,000
keiko TL 2,050 −1,800
kamo TL 2,450 −2,000
kamyk TL 2,600 −1,150
paTiTek TL 50 −4,200
0:17
kamo
Wo0t
0:23
kamyk
Boo
0:23
MiniBoo
kamyk
0:26
keiko
RieNs
0:27 Spike planted A by
nAts
0:29
benjyfishy
nAts
0:30
benjyfishy
paTiTek
0:30
kamo
benjyfishy
0:45
kamo
MiniBoo
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#1
Jinxypoo
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apeks 3-2 fut

#2
CallMeVortex
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maybe in a different universe

#140
fungame024
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there is no way th just get sweeped like that

#3
cameran
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APEKS 3-0 KOI
FLYUH CONTINUES WITH 3RD PLACE CURSE UNFORTUNATELY

idk what i just predicted but
Liquid 3-2 hereshits LMFAOOO noobs

#37
Change24
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as a G2 fan, we dont claim this person

#62
HanimeVert
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downvote me if you think @change24 is wrong

#170
AceslayerSFT
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as a G2 hater, I'm confused

#182
Hyxagon
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as a third party bystander, i find this funny

#4
jimdpl
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TH - FnC here.
FNC prevails

#5
31Raven
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fnc 3-2 vit

#6
Zerphyr1
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bbl run ends here

#7
emre_542
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FUT 3-2 TH

#14
emre_542
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i changed my mind. FUT 3-0 TH

#16
jpeg_g
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of course xdd

#48
malims
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welllllll, this didn't age very well

#176
emre_542
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i was right brothers

#8
ParodyAccount
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We're starting a b05 at 9pm.. 🐶💔

#9
Astaaaaa
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fut 1-3 heretics/vit

#52
Gugul1
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Nats might be the GOAT cause Liquid was not supposed to be here

#10
Cerati
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HERETICS 3-1 VITALITY

#11
Laundry
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Ur a lil confused but I like the spirit

#12
blazerno1
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Tbd 3-1 tbd

#29
Razib_Khan
4
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no tbd will clap tbd with a 3-0

#186
Legionlord
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Well well well

#13
landobey
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FUT 3-2 either

Edit : sorry Los Niños FUT takes this 3-1
nvm, ggs tl
TH 3-0 TL

#30
CaxTonYT
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U wish

#151
scarlemange
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HaHa bozo

#15
hinahinaa
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pati vs his old team
i hope th bounce back and show us a good game

#17
Jinxypoo
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banger

#18
GambleNats
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LIQUID ALREADY MADE IT THIS FAR, LETS GO ALL THE WAY

#19
willow888
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Please th, please wo0t.
Knock off the stupid team that has won this tournament by only luck
Please.

#20
yoshiGG
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buahahha only luck XDD

#22
willow888
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I admit that TL has some ability, but clearly the tournament was well placed.

#25
catNmouse
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they were underdogs vs GX BBL and FUT, all considered to be hard for liquid

#53
Penqu1N
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What is with the Liquid hate??????

#183
willow888
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I was wrong, TL is the best team in the world and I am convinced they are . I will buy three TL bundles, use TL Classic and Banner on all my accounts, and wear TL uniforms to see them in Bangkok.

#21
destroylonely
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free qual for TH lmao

#110
Jerbungo
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Uh oh

#23
catNmouse
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patitek sudden life gamee, otherwise TH win

#24
Apaqt
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TL deserves to make Bangkok after their lower bracket run and defeating FUT was a statement

#26
DrStein
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Liquid ban Pearl
Heretics ban Abyss

We don't know if Heretics is good on Bind and Split. Probably Liquid wins these two maps.

AFTER: So Heretics banned Split instead of Abyss. Huge mistake letting the best map for Liquid.

#27
eMby
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3-2 TL
Heretics will play good and Liquid will play their best Valorant ever.
RieNs will still have positive stats.

#28
MANIAC8686
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Pls TL win ts

#31
emmibina
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TL 3-2 th are ass now

#32
yoshiGG
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Liquid will play their best valorant ever mark my words

#33
Upcominturf
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How has TL even made it here lol
TH 3-1 TL.
I Trust TH to go deeper in Bangkok

#34
hinahinaa
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bro its bo5

#35
Upcominturf
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Mb chief

#36
Slndr
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We need nAts at an international event again

#38
trvnq
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TH 3-1 TL

#39
belcikalivl
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3-1 th

#40
hzin11
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i hope th fking crash and burn they are not a special team

#44
lakpx
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0/8

#46
Bigfish
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they might not be a special team but u are special needs

#185
hzin11
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im autistic are you picking up on autistic kids?

#188
Bigfish
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yes

#41
aspassonjiezounb
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if th picked fracture and abyss they would lose so th 3-2 or 3-1

#42
Miquele
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Liquid 3-2 TH

#43
_Nonsense
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Please for the love of god win this TL
Its gonna be so funny
3-1

#45
chinesesigma96
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liquid 3-0 heretics

#187
Lesunpooped
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牛逼

#189
nanashitokumei111
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Dude knew

#47
borabora69
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TH just gonna take the stomping from VIT?

#49
hydrazohne
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TL had too many throws yesterday. Definitely TH 3-0 TL.

#50
Germy
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Please just get a real role down for Wo0t TH, im begging you. also maybe dont put benjy on Tejo?

#51
curlingboegoal
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how have TL made it here lmao

#54
ayet4HONOR
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Keiko is the player with the highest hs rate in almost every match. The aim of those whose names start with the letter K looks very good.

#55
Jaox-101
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TH 3 - 2 TL

#56
100Tchoke
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TL played okay yesterday. Threw a lot but I think they can take this. I know TH is still good and I wanna believe but this season with them being sick and playing very off I don’t think they can beat an ass TL

#57
MorphinN
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TL are looking better every single match. TL 3-1 TH

#58
fictional
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a banger match, but we have mini as a caster. pansy have to carry his ass once more

#59
Seo_w
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Reyna in a VCT finals, welcome back 2021

#60
Himmelgoat
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TH looks ass, ez for Liquid

#61
Apaqt
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TH downfall doesn't needs to be studied they were always ass just fluked last year

#64
sergueiessenine
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https://www.vlr.gg/348475/g2-esports-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lf 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕

#66
Coolkas
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That's why it's called downfall bcs they was so good and look like a super team

#69
Apaqt
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Ever heard what a downfall is?

#72
sergueiessenine
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"they were always ass just fluked last year" man do yall even read what u type on here?

#102
Apaqt
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No ragebait surely

#63
gustaavo
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OVERRATED OVERRATED OVERRATED OVERRATED OVERRATED OVERRATED

#65
Schzer
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bo5 its match fix time for EU just like paci doing t1 vs genG

what a dirty xD

#67
badger252
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i can already see Liquid throwing this from 9-2

#68
Shoyo15
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nah th dont have players good enough to come back

#70
Apaqt
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Navi vs Spirit Katowice would last longer than a BO5

#71
Schzer
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watching this game every bo5 going dirty its very lame
with player TH face ik their dont have emotion its mean they
dont care lose map 1

#73
Apaqt
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With TH being out EU has a genuine chance to win a trophy

#74
bynxvl
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these guys fucking suck

#75
coldfeet_
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tl win 3-1, trust me

#80
Apaqt
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3-0 TH ain't making it past 15 rounds

#154
elus1ve
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4+4+7 bro's the teller

#159
elus1ve
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nats looked so good on frac

#76
hinahinaa
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i just shocked what happened to th??? they forgot how to play valo since champs'24 or what?
they look kinda...bad.

#77
31Raven
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yeah idk, they arent antistratting, looking at comp weaknesses, aiming, irdk what theyre doing rn

#78
LikelyLiar
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Just saw that TL won on Lotus with a ranked comp, I am crying tears of joy rn.

#79
ayet4HONOR
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hahahhahahahahshslkassksad

#81
Himmelgoat
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Holyshit TH is disgustingly bad, this is just a dry 3-0

#82
Apaqt
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TH would regret not having a Polish guy

#83
badger252
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5v3 situation and they decide to entry site with 10 seconds left for some reason and not even try to plant LOL

#84
Jajajajajajjah
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TL won lotus with my asc lobby comp lmfaoooooooooo

#85
Apaqt
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Team liquid adopted the D tier team aura

#86
milkywayyyyy
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what this th doing lol

#87
honziikkk
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Heretics are finished LMAO. Minib0t, b0t and PIji fishy XDXD

#88
badger252
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1-9 Minibot is real

#89
Amadeus11
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rigged match lol

#90
Apaqt
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This BO5 is over before it started and TH ain't making any internationals this team is soo done

#91
Himmelgoat
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Get patitek back, bench miniboo and put woot on duelist, its not that hard TH

#92
badger252
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you really think Th has more money than liquid?

#93
Himmelgoat
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Im pretty sure TH chose to play with miniboo instead of patitek bruh?

#95
badger252
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yeah butt why would he comeback if hes getting paid more

#104
Himmelgoat
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Good question, I mean probably he wont come back if TL is playing better and hes getting paid more, but in hindsight TH should have kept him and bench miniboo

#114
badger252
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Yeah I never saw miniboo as a consistent duelist tbh

#118
Himmelgoat
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Miniboo might be back, TH 3-2

#165
nitherj
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nah

#94
Apaqt
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FUT has the chance to drop kaptan and qraxs and pick up wo0t and riens

#96
LikelyLiar
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What do y'all think TL will do on attack, kinda feel like TH is going to make a comeback, hopefully not.

#103
LikelyLiar
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Dont mind me, just anti-jinxing to make sure.

#97
milkywayyyyy
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losing to poorlaks

#98
Drakath
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mimi said she will glue herself to a chair liquid goes to bangkok

#99
Apaqt
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TH won't make it past 15 rounds

#100
honziikkk
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script leaked lol

#101
badger252
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heretics please just disband

#106
Apaqt
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I wish it was BO3 this game is horrendous

#107
4EverzZ
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two13-4?I think TL will go to the Bangkok honestly

#108
Drakath
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did u guys notice that the final round omen didn't get the spike when ulting and that mistake threw heretics off and leading to liquids victory

#109
NEGATIVE69
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Liquid ez. GG TH maybe next time

#111
ybka
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what happened to heretics man. wouldn't believe if someone told me that these guys were on the champs final.

#115
hinahinaa
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this is their worst performance that i've ever seen
idk really what happened with heretics, and it's sad to see

#116
Sonatine
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Something seems off since they had their insane illness wave. I think Wo0t was ill twice and everyone else once or something like that. They are super young... I think last season was so insanely crazy for a debut season that now everyone thinks they can't fail. Maybe it's also that pressure.

#117
hinahinaa
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yeah, i truly agree with your words
because once i heard that wo0t isn't fully recovered yet (maybe i'm wrong)
i like heretics, but what they doing now, it's not that crazy team that we all knew in 2024

#112
Ch1Lz
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Whats wrong with heretics? This is not normal🙂🙃

#113
milkywayyyyy
0
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reverse sweep 322

#119
psychedel0c
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Bummed to see TH struggling, but it's also cool to see TL looking good for the first time in a long time

#120
1ucid
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miniboo can only play fracture?

#121
TrevorEU
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I didn’t expect this

#122
Anzaldinho
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i guess everyone deserves second chances

#127
hinahinaa
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but not heretics with their current gameplay

#160
Anzaldinho
0
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definitely kamo

#123
milkywayyyyy
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minibot awful hahaha

#124
badger252
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4-3 -> 4-8
ez for Crypto throwers

#132
milkywayyyyy
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4-12

#125
Sonatine
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mini: "This isn't the Heretics that I know."

I think we all can agree here.

But they're humans, sh*t happens. Sometimes you need a little downfall to be able to stand up stronger.

And CHICHOO meeting nAts is always wholesome. :P

#129
psychedel0c
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holy shit, a sane take in a VLR chat? a rarity

#145
MorphinN
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It was more of a Liquid playing out of their minds and having perfect antis than a weaker heretics. GGs tho!

#126
Apaqt
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Another 13-4 incoming

#128
SOUTHSIDE
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v

#130
honziikkk
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disgusting how bad heretics are.

#131
Jajajajajajjah
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GODDAMN

#133
ParodyAccount
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this was not how I envisioned the series going... at.. all

#134
k1ck
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mini reisimin sikmediği maç yok helal olsun istikrar

#135
johnlenin
-4
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matchfixing just can't stop xd
money money money 🤑🤑🤑

#136
ELIYAHU
0
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wtf am I watching......

#137
psychedel0c
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Ggwp, a very well-earned victory for TL. They looked excellent, and I'm excited to see how they perform in Bangkok.

Unfortunate to see TH struggle so much, but I'm confident they will use the off time to figure out what went wrong and will come back stronger.

Not sure why so many Val fans are such dicks. The players are human, shit happens man. TH had a rough day and did not perform well, but sometimes that's how it goes. A team's skill ceiling is not defined by their most recent match.

#139
RENDANG_ISNT_CRISPY
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yes agree, I'm a dick.

#142
CarlosGod69
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FINALLY, someone normal

#164
Noivern
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You made me make an account after 4 years of keeping up with pro Val stuff just to cosign what you just said. This site is too ruthless for no reason. I hope to see more comments like yours in the future.

#167
psychedel0c
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It really is so wild dude. Recency bias has the majority of this community in a chokehold. A team had a bad match? Well they are shit, always were shit, and will never be good. It's wild lol.

#172
ShikrystL
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it's like all reason and nuance is thrown out of the window the moment something goes wrong— couldn't agree more with your sentiments
just look at how much people were bashing EDG since this offseason before they eventually won CN Kickoff lol.

#138
badger252
1
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4-3 to 7-13 nice paid actors

#153
vyvid
1
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0% chance you’re real

#156
badger252
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wtf are you?

#141
LikelyLiar
12
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Seeing nAts in Masters will make me shed a tear.

#143
Chxrry
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That was an impressive lower bracket run. Wp liquid

#144
GambleNats
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NEVER DOUBTED. TOP 2. BANGKOK HERE WE COME

#146
hinahinaa
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good miracle lower bracket run, respect to them, BUT be ready to see when TL out of masters bangkok with 0-2 score

#162
eiru
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какой же очередной копиум от ирочки хд, как будто отлетевшие 0:3 тх показали бы лучший результат на мастерсе)))

#168
irishsamingg
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bro dont say that they can be good rememeber this is the best from liquid we have seen since 2023

#147
jj_ipod
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TH looks so out of form, what was that?

#148
Minimalist
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I doubted and i wanna apologize to TL THEYRE INSANEEEE HOLY..

#149
Aranmoes
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Real talk, most of us didnt expect TL to stomp TH this way, simply unbelievable

#150
milkywayyyyy
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looks this th is unmotivated or getting paid to lose lmao not even trying

#152
SolarX
3
Frags
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TH had back to back off days
unlucky

#155
Scar98
6
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nAts is back in Masters LFGGGGGG

#157
jorge32
-5
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th paid to lose, as expected

#158
vV1S
1
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How??? Anyway gg's

#161
foythvlr
0
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LMAOOOOOOOOO

#163
abdd
0
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this is criminal man 😭

#166
Rvlo
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How the fuck did this happen

#169
Mayonaise
8
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WoOt on duelist only need

#171
Mayonaise
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I need to see WoOt on raze bro 😫

#173
UmutShawty
1
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What the actual fuck

#174
Beyonder2
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so happy for nAts, congrats bratan

#175
gordonramsay
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damnnn happy for nats tho, what the fuck have they been feeding keiko, this guy might be the #1 controller itw rn just purely based off stats and impact.

#177
HeIsTet
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Who would of thought top 2 champs same fucking roster loses 0-3 to TL nah what happen TH? Im not hating btw can someone give me a tldr on what the fuck is going on? Haven't seen any emea games besides FNC.

#178
_Nonsense
6
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Just woke up
Holy fck they actually did it
I fckn respect TL for this

#179
greya
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#180
ticua07
2
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holy fuck

#181
trola
8
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TL went crazy what the. Glad Keiko can visit his mother's home country

#184
MANIAC8686
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holy shit quick and clean

#190
yungbasel
2
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Why are still surprised, this is valorant. We're all idiots, myself included 🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅

#191
Shadow_Monarch
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Poor TH. Maybe they'll learn how to utilize Tejo better for Stage 1 and stop playing KJ.

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