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VAL WORLD CUP 2024

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babybob

Hi, so I've been working on this little thread covering an hypothetical VAL World Cup, covering most countries represented in VCT

https://twitter.com/babygulino/status/1779282014929051816

Hope you enjoy it and please tell me what you think :)

Update:
Forgot to add Singapore

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really good work, havent seen all the teams but looks really clean

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Kiko
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i feel like meiy should be on team japan

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AlexSMTxx
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brazil wins because they have aspas. The end.

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babybob
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Kiko [#3]

i feel like meiy should be on team japan

I was thinking about it, but I think that Dep is overall better + has more experience winning

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thenutoriousPRO [#2]

really good work, havent seen all the teams but looks really clean

Thanks! I spent most of my time in the graphics lol

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babybob [#5]

I was thinking about it, but I think that Dep is overall better + has more experience winning

double duelist goes crazy is all im gonna say

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16 Europe, 12 Asia, 6 Americas
Why 34? I know one of the rule is don't take it too seriously, but 32 is the perfect amount.

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Warlordwibz [#8]

16 Europe, 12 Asia, 6 Americas
Why 34? I know one of the rule is don't take it too seriously, but 32 is the perfect amount.

Trying to make as most countries as possible, It was originally 32 but I didn't want to let Team Balkans and Baltics out

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babybob [#9]

Trying to make as most countries as possible, It was originally 32 but I didn't want to let Team Balkans and Baltics out

Also I had this unwritten rule of including every country that had one representative in VCT historically if possible (Unfortunately, countries like Ukraine, Morocco, Norway, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, and others, didn't have a large enough number of pro players to make a reliable roster, so that's partly why I deciced to make region-based teams like the Baltics or Balkans)

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Also I think the coaches should be from any nationality. For the roster building I think including a national coach is cool but for the actual tournament I think any country should be able to have any coach

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MEgASp1kE
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for some reason the picture doesnt work

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babybob
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kanyefan4238173 [#11]

Also I think the coaches should be from any nationality. For the roster building I think including a national coach is cool but for the actual tournament I think any country should be able to have any coach

Yeah, it was really tricky, especially for Czechia, Poland and Hong Kong. I thought the same but I wanted to keep it as national as possible

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babybob
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MEgASp1kE [#12]

for some reason the picture doesnt work

wym?

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Good list but I would add Nats to Russia and Marved to Canada

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alecks coach france

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nooomy
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really cool idea but some of the player choices are off a bit. Marved would be smokes for Canada with Tenz flex. ardiis would probably be the UKs flex cause he grew up here (unless you think he would choose to represent Latvia then fair enough) and mistic would probably be there instead of soulcas. Also boostio would probably be USAs sentinel and igl instead of victor. But still really cool idea and would be hype to see

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GaeHGae
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Touch grass

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MEgASp1kE
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nooomy [#17]

really cool idea but some of the player choices are off a bit. Marved would be smokes for Canada with Tenz flex. ardiis would probably be the UKs flex cause he grew up here (unless you think he would choose to represent Latvia then fair enough) and mistic would probably be there instead of soulcas. Also boostio would probably be USAs sentinel and igl instead of victor. But still really cool idea and would be hype to see

no fns igl

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hxxpy19
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looks cool

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LeviaT
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Team Singapore is missing but doesn't matter cuz everyone else sucks except jinggg

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Liem
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bro really made german team without the best german player

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cioccolat
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good job dude

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babybob
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GaeHGae [#18]

Touch grass

sorry for having fun

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-zander

+Marved

-zekken

+Demon1

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LeviaT [#21]

Team Singapore is missing but doesn't matter cuz everyone else sucks except jinggg

Team Singapore
Jingg
Jinggg clone 1
Jinggg clone 2
Jinggg clone 3
Jinggg clone 4

coach:
Jinggg clone 5

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babybob
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nooomy [#17]

really cool idea but some of the player choices are off a bit. Marved would be smokes for Canada with Tenz flex. ardiis would probably be the UKs flex cause he grew up here (unless you think he would choose to represent Latvia then fair enough) and mistic would probably be there instead of soulcas. Also boostio would probably be USAs sentinel and igl instead of victor. But still really cool idea and would be hype to see

The easier answer for Canada would have been Marved in smokes, TenZ in flex and FNS in sentinel as the IGL, but I honestly think TenZ is not that good as flex. You have 3 players with similar roles and I'm not really sure if they could mix that well. I think going for a more firepower based team is the best approach. Marved doesn't perform well when not playing with controller, the same goes for TenZ, and FNS generally doesn't perform individually either. Since FNS has only played with Chet and Crashies as the second caller, I don't really know how he would develop on this team, he has always said that he doesn't like playing on teams that he has no control over. FNS>Zander in IGLing, but Zander fits better on this team. Mistic was in the original draft, but mostly overlapped with Boaster in that controller role. Boostio is a really great IGL, but Ethan is showing off the work NRG is doing, Boostio could have easily been on the team.

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babybob
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Liem [#22]

bro really made german team without the best german player

Who? Genuine question

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Liem
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babybob [#28]

Who? Genuine question

Click

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babybob
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0fcuZ [#25]

-zander

+Marved

-zekken

+Demon1

Marved can't IGL and overlaps with TenZ in the controller role. And Demon1>Zekken could happen, they are close players in skill, but Zekken is more flexible

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MagicSpecies
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amazing list...but ig it would be better to have LF as controller instead of Kohli

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babybob
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smthlikeyou11 [#16]

alecks coach france

PRX HC coaching in an EMEA team? Seems like Happy is a much better fit for a team with M8, KC and TL players to me

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babybob
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Liem [#29]

Click

I mean... I guess? Click is probably the best German playing in EMEA, but Guard Tex in that duelist was really something else. If Tex sticks to that Sentinel role, then yeah, Click would definitely take over in that duelist role

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Psion
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0fcuZ [#25]

-zander

+Marved

-zekken

+Demon1

oppsy

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Psion
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Murica
-zellsis + boostio
-zekken + demon1

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babybob
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MagicSpecies [#31]

amazing list...but ig it would be better to have LF as controller instead of Kohli

Currently, sure. This list was made when GE was getting absolutely shit on. LF is an ok player, but he lacks a lot of consistency, sometimes he plays like the best player in the team, and other times he plays worse than Polvi

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babybob
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LeviaT [#21]

Team Singapore is missing but doesn't matter cuz everyone else sucks except jinggg

https://twitter.com/baby_png/status/1779884963464138820

Fixed!

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babybob
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Psion [#35]

Murica
-zellsis + boostio
-zekken + demon1

I get the Demon1 change, but I think that Zellsis is a non-negotiable asset. SEN wouldn't have won Kick-Off and Madrid without him (and johnqt)

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xhaetae
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why no invy on team philippines and nephh on team singapore

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babybob
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xhaetae [#39]

why no invy on team philippines and nephh on team singapore

Who IGLs?

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Psion
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babybob [#38]

I get the Demon1 change, but I think that Zellsis is a non-negotiable asset. SEN wouldn't have won Kick-Off and Madrid without him (and johnqt)

EG wouldn't of won champs without boostio, boostio is a way better or at the very least more proven IGL than ethan or zellsis (whichever one u pick to IGL)
both give the team good vibes

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babybob
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Psion [#41]

EG wouldn't of won champs without boostio, boostio is a way better or at the very least more proven IGL than ethan or zellsis (whichever one u pick to IGL)
both give the team good vibes

Fair enough I guess. USA has an amount of pros so big that you could do at least 3 rosters that could win a Valorant World Cup. I think that most of EG's success comes from Potter and (mainly) Demon1's monster performance. Remember that EG was a mid-table team before Demon1, but I'm not putting Boostio's IGLing in doubt. I think that any roster that has Sentinels, NRG or imported players can make it big in this kind of event

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babybob [#42]

Fair enough I guess. USA has an amount of pros so big that you could do at least 3 rosters that could win a Valorant World Cup. I think that most of EG's success comes from Potter and (mainly) Demon1's monster performance. Remember that EG was a mid-table team before Demon1, but I'm not putting Boostio's IGLing in doubt. I think that any roster that has Sentinels, NRG or imported players can make it big in this kind of event

demon1 was the solution because he could play jett more than anything(they literally didn't have a jett player before that)

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you turd really put autumn as korea coach and left out buzz lmfao

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babybob
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you turd really put autumn as korea coach and left out buzz lmfao

t3xture>buzz how is that turded

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babybob [#45]

t3xture>buzz how is that turded

buzz>meteor>t3xture

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Psion
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buzz>meteor>t3xture

buzz > t3xture on all roles
buzz > t3xture currently on all roles
buzz > t3xture all time on duelist
t3xture > buzz currently on duelist

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babybob
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Costofequity [#46]

buzz>meteor>t3xture

Also Korea was one of those in which I'm familiarized with the coaches, so I just put Autumn since I know him more as a coach

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babybob [#48]

Also Korea was one of those in which I'm familiarized with the coaches, so I just put Autumn since I know him more as a coach

ya autumn fkn plat player sure u know him u turd

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Psion [#47]

buzz > t3xture on all roles
buzz > t3xture currently on all roles
buzz > t3xture all time on duelist
t3xture > buzz currently on duelist

if buzz was on geng instead of t3xture they wouldve beat sen 3-2

if buzz was on geng instead of lakia they wouldve smacked sen 3-0

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babybob
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ya autumn fkn plat player sure u know him u turd

Chill man, one of the rules of my WC is to not take it too seriously😭

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From the roster examples you lack of knowledge about some of the countries and that’s okay, the idea is very good tho still good job

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babybob [#51]

Chill man, one of the rules of my WC is to not take it too seriously😭

you not putting in buzz is a crime against korean valorant

dude is prolly the best player in KR

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babybob
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you not putting in buzz is a crime against korean valorant

dude is prolly the best player in KR

Wait till GenG goes against DRX, Buzz extreme diffs t3xture, then you comeback to this thread and I'll say that you're right

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babybob [#54]

Wait till GenG goes against DRX, Buzz extreme diffs t3xture, then you comeback to this thread and I'll say that you're right

did u even watch DRX vs GenG last split

buzz was COOKING them, t3xture popped off that series too tho

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babybob
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J7z [#52]

From the roster examples you lack of knowledge about some of the countries and that’s okay, the idea is very good tho still good job

Ye, covering 34 rosters is hard. I think it's the most obvious in APAC, where I went with the safest picks (for example Thailand, India, or Vietnam)

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did u even watch DRX vs GenG last split

buzz was COOKING them, t3xture popped off that series too tho

I think that having either of them is valid. Idk I just don't think that it's that crazy having t3xture over buzz, ideally you'd have both of them playing, but I don't think that Buzz is that reliable in other roles

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babybob [#57]

I think that having either of them is valid. Idk I just don't think that it's that crazy having t3xture over buzz, ideally you'd have both of them playing, but I don't think that Buzz is that reliable in other roles

brotha buzz is the best flex in KR alongside meteor

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babybob
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brotha buzz is the best flex in KR alongside meteor

Let's agree to disagree, I'm not saying that he isn't, I just don't think that he fits on a team like that

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babybob [#59]

Let's agree to disagree, I'm not saying that he isn't, I just don't think that he fits on a team like that

btw id just remove stax, munchkin already igl

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Liem
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babybob [#33]

I mean... I guess? Click is probably the best German playing in EMEA, but Guard Tex in that duelist was really something else. If Tex sticks to that Sentinel role, then yeah, Click would definitely take over in that duelist role

also musashi > benny imo

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geospliced
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This could just be me trippin but your jkuro pic might be one of Viva.

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babybob
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Costofequity [#60]

btw id just remove stax, munchkin already igl

-stax
+buzz
Seems reasonable, I don't know how much better this would be though

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babybob [#63]

-stax
+buzz
Seems reasonable, I don't know how much better this would be though

bro look at that roster

munchkin
buzz
t3xture
meteor (or karon)
mako

that team would win world cup

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babybob
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bro look at that roster

munchkin
buzz
t3xture
meteor (or karon)
mako

that team would win world cup

I'll give you a W for this one, could work (I had Korea Top 1 either way :p)

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babybob
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geospliced [#62]

This could just be me trippin but your jkuro pic might be one of Viva.

I honestly thought the same, since the only pic a have of him is a 300x300 pixelated mugshot, I couldn't really tell who he was since everyone in JDG uses glasses and have the same haircut, so I gambled💀

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sinkyourhead
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ini siapa yg kasih saran fidelwow wkkwwkwkwkwkw

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geospliced
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babybob [#66]

I honestly thought the same, since the only pic a have of him is a 300x300 pixelated mugshot, I couldn't really tell who he was since everyone in JDG uses glasses and have the same haircut, so I gambled💀

You could search him up on google though there's a few pics of him.

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BrotherMan
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Dymerr [#15]

Good list but I would add Nats to Russia and Marved to Canada

daddy zarved

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babybob
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sinkyourhead [#67]

ini siapa yg kasih saran fidelwow wkkwwkwkwkwkw

I mean, who else would take the coach position? asteriskk? I barely even know him because he won the Indo league

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babybob [#70]

I mean, who else would take the coach position? asteriskk? I barely even know him because he won the Indo league

Severine. he was a coach, analyst, player, and IGL before ewok coming to ONIC G

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id replace zellsis with boostio

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Top4 World Cup Teams

Team Canada:
Tenz (Jett/Yoru)
Marved (Smokes)
Eeiu (Initiator)
Nismo (Raze/flex)
FNS (Senti/IGL)

Team USA:
Demon1 (Jett)
Jawgemo (Raze/flex)
Boostio (Senti/IGL)
Crashies (Initiator)
S0m (Smokes)

Team Brazil:
Aspas
Less
Sacy
Pancada
Cauanzin
(dont need IGL, they professional)

Team Korea:
Mako
Buzz/T3xture
Karon
Meteor
Munchkin (IGL)
(firepower and aim so good, roles wont matter)

Thoughts?

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You haven't researched enough, you mixed up some players nationality.
For example, Russ is from UK, not India. You should replace Lightningfast there.
Other than that, it looks good.

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babybob
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lucifer0922 [#74]

You haven't researched enough, you mixed up some players nationality.
For example, Russ is from UK, not India. You should replace Lightningfast there.
Other than that, it looks good.

He's registered as Indian in the VCT visa no?

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babybob
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babybob [#75]

He's registered as Indian in the VCT visa no?

Also, I established that I only count players that claim their nationality

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xNolva
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yea you need to have fns and marved on team canada

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babybob
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xNolva [#77]

yea you need to have fns and marved on team canada

Idk, NRG are saying that M80 are farming them in scrims. FNS hasn't played in a bit, so I think that going for a more firepower based team is the best approach for these kind of players.

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Philippines best player isn't there

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babybob
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luckypleb [#79]

Philippines best player isn't there

Couldn't really fit Invy in the team since there wouldn't be any IGL

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Marved-NA-Savior [#73]

Top4 World Cup Teams

Team Canada:
Tenz (Jett/Yoru)
Marved (Smokes)
Eeiu (Initiator)
Nismo (Raze/flex)
FNS (Senti/IGL)

Team USA:
Demon1 (Jett)
Jawgemo (Raze/flex)
Boostio (Senti/IGL)
Crashies (Initiator)
S0m (Smokes)

Team Brazil:
Aspas
Less
Sacy
Pancada
Cauanzin
(dont need IGL, they professional)

Team Korea:
Mako
Buzz/T3xture
Karon
Meteor
Munchkin (IGL)
(firepower and aim so good, roles wont matter)

Thoughts?

Mm idk man, team usa just isn't it for me

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lucifer0922
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babybob [#76]

Also, I established that I only count players that claim their nationality

Can you share your source, because as far as I see on his VLR page and other websites there is UK flag.

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lucifer0922 [#82]

Can you share your source, because as far as I see on his VLR page and other websites there is UK flag.

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Russ description and also watch the announcement, GE present him as Indian. And also, you can't have 2 imports in the same team, so it would be impossible for him or polvi to be in GE if Russ wasnt Indian. https://twitter.com/GlobalEsportsIn/status/1704480961830989928 so errmm yeah I think I did enough research🤓

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notprxfan
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all indonesia needs to win the vlr world cup is 5 f0rsakeN

#85
FabYouLose
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babybob [#40]

Who IGLs?

Since Invy cannot be added (as 3 TS members are there), - JessieVash + Emman (NAOS) both IGLs but Emman is much flexible with other initiator agents. But JessieVash is much experienced.

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babybob [#83]

https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Russ description and also watch the announcement, GE present him as Indian. And also, you can't have 2 imports in the same team, so it would be impossible for him or polvi to be in GE if Russ wasnt Indian. https://twitter.com/GlobalEsportsIn/status/1704480961830989928 so errmm yeah I think I did enough research🤓

your 1st source still doesn't mention Russ as Indian; it says British of Indian descent. But then I saw the twitter post and your reasoning for the 2 imports which made sense. Thanks for letting me know!

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Pato_Galactico
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lucifer0922 [#86]

your 1st source still doesn't mention Russ as Indian; it says British of Indian descent. But then I saw the twitter post and your reasoning for the 2 imports which made sense. Thanks for letting me know!

If he doesn't count as an import for Vct Pacific then it should count as Indian for this bro

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ZekaTheGoat
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smthlikeyou11 [#16]

alecks coach france

That's like saying fns is Indian or s0m is Korean, true but in this context it's 100% refutable

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ZekaTheGoat
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Marved-NA-Savior [#73]

Top4 World Cup Teams

Team Canada:
Tenz (Jett/Yoru)
Marved (Smokes)
Eeiu (Initiator)
Nismo (Raze/flex)
FNS (Senti/IGL)

Team USA:
Demon1 (Jett)
Jawgemo (Raze/flex)
Boostio (Senti/IGL)
Crashies (Initiator)
S0m (Smokes)

Team Brazil:
Aspas
Less
Sacy
Pancada
Cauanzin
(dont need IGL, they professional)

Team Korea:
Mako
Buzz/T3xture
Karon
Meteor
Munchkin (IGL)
(firepower and aim so good, roles wont matter)

Thoughts?

I don't trust Brazil because Saadhak is missing.

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lucifer0922 [#86]

your 1st source still doesn't mention Russ as Indian; it says British of Indian descent. But then I saw the twitter post and your reasoning for the 2 imports which made sense. Thanks for letting me know!

no problemo

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