NRG Flaws | VLR.gg

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cioccolat

Here are some NRG Flaws that may be NRGs demise or proven wrong

No actual Oper (Demon1 is a great rifler, but other duelists are better opers; Aspas, Mwzera, Cryo, Oxy...)
Untested IGL
Dubious Sinergy
Meta Role Conflict (While Demon1 can pick up a safe controller role, the meta seems to be tending towards Raze, Yoru and Phoenix, which while NRG haven a good Yoru in Ethan, and a good Phoenix/Raze in Victor, neither of these players roles are Controller, its Initiator and sentinel, which are roles different to what Demon1 can offer, and mean they will be betting on his skill to adapt)
Marved has been out of Play for a very long time now, there is a strong chance of him not playing up to whats needed
Different System ( Demon1 was trained within Potter/Ziks/Screwface's system, there is a valid doubt he will be able to adapt to the different system, also the different scrim plan since they dont have a designated reserve roster for scrimming)

Now, these can all be proven wrong this friday, and they can also be proven right. only time will tell.
feel free to comment other doubst you have on this roster

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Theacegamer30 na version will not like this one

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canyon

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Asuna yuki will not like this one

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TheAceGamer30

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Wdum I agree with him I think Furia can upset NRG

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number2_cNed_fan

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no your na version (asuna yuki or wtv)

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TheAceGamer30

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Oh lmao yeah bro dickrides NRG

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inlucid

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here before asuna yuuki's 30 lines essay explaining why NRG is the greatest team itw

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AlexSMTxx

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yet all his arguments can be dismantled with one word...

v0ct0r

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Asuna_Yuuki

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The second best flex in Americas man

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AlexSMTxx

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2nd best at being the biggest fraud in Americas, only behind trashies.

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TheAceGamer30

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No he’s not

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Who is then?

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number2_cNed_fan

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i can't think of any1 else other than ethan...
they really got no skill there

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Victor is second best after ethan

I agree

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MelatoninPopper

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Zekken is the best flex after ethan despite him being a duelist now dont forget he plays every role in the game and performs better although a bit less consistency than victor.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Nah bro Zekken is no longer a flex

And even then Victor clears

In that case Demon1 is the best at every role in the gam

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TheAceGamer30

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Victor doesn’t clear anyone 😂

continue thread →

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MelatoninPopper

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how does victor clear zekken he has played well on every role in the game. Unlike demon1 he can play all the agents role to a high level and literally has more agents played than victor. Not only that but zekken only has 1 agent with a negative avg rating. Zachary Patrone is the definition of a flex despite switching to entry/duelist last year.

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bronzil_enjoyer

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you have to be the most upvoted guy in vlr

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TheAceGamer30

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CNed the goat

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number2_cNed_fan

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we should not be focused on worldly things, rather try to get every opportunity to improve ourselves 🗿

(or something like that idk)

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pessi_41

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THERE ARE LIKE 100000 CLIPS OF HIM FLICKIING

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number2_cNed_fan

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what 🗿

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TheAceGamer30

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CNed >

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i think they will struggle at the first months, but once they qualify for the second masters or champs it will be scary
as much as i doubt their game, they still are awesome players

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Demon1 is the best opper in the world man you don’t know what you are talking about

Marved wasn’t given a chance on SEN. He will be 🧊 cold this year

All of the others are valid doubts you can have about any team that will only be proven wrong once they play

I choose to believe that they will not have those problems because chet is a great coach and his teams have always has insane cohesion, strategy, and synergy

They are also insanely flexible I seriously can’t remember a single time any of them DIDN’T look good on an agnt

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TheAceGamer30

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Demon1 barely kills people with op 😂

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Just because he doesn’t Op every map doesn’t mean that he isn’t the best opper

He rarely misses shots and is extremely fast

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pessi_41

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lmao. I thought I will defend you in this thread. then I see you calling demon1 worlds best awper. lmao dude. Niko isn't worlds best awper, but he was certainly best player once upon a time and still one of the best. Just stop your delusional facts already. Even no pro player/casters say demon1 best awper. I thought you grew up, but you are still that same old delusional kid.

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TheAceGamer30

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the glazing is to extreme 😂

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Did bro watch LudwigxTarik invitational?

They were literally talking about how they thought Demon1 was the best topper

I’ve seen sgares say Demon1 is the best opper

Is it really that preposterous of a take?

Demon1 rarely missed and is insane with the op

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TheAceGamer30

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No his op ain’t better than aspas

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number2_cNed_fan

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and defo not better than Charles Neddington

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pessi_41

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send me the link where they said demon1 best awper. coz I have seen the clip and they didn't use "awp". sgares said he thinks demon1 is the best player itw currently. and he added that he doesn't think he will be able to continue that form and tarik added it is hard to follow that. first u misquoted and then u cut the additional portion. this is why you are delusional

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Marved-NA-Savior

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Have 0 doubst

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Smartest_BR_fan

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Name checks out

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zardinez

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Honestly these are all great points. I’m not so worried about the demon1 op tho, bc he’s so mechanically skilled I have no doubt he will be effective at it when needed.

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zardinez

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Although I think another flaw is too many cooks in the kitchen. Ethan will be IGLing, Crashies and Vic are super vocal, and apparently Marved has brought a lot of his own ideas from his time IGLing on Sen. Making sure there isn't too much comming in the round will be a struggle for them I think.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Fraudulent take

OpTic had FNS igling, crashies and victor, and Marved as well

They were so successful

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DeluluGavin

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yea i feel like as much as ppl praised yay, I always thought FNS's gigachad igling was the biggest success of OpTic

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zardinez

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Yeah because FNS is literally the best midrounder valorant has ever seen. Ethan will be decent I'm sure, but he won't be as good from an IGL standpoint. Marved was also WAY less vocal on optic compared to now.

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AstroGalaxy

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demon 1 can op

everything else is facts

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TheAceGamer30

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He’s more of rifler than a oper

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Asuna_Yuuki

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His rifling just OVERSHADOWS his Op

He is still the best Opper in the game

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TheAceGamer30

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No he is not 😂 aspas clears on the op

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Cap

Demon1 is different

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TheAceGamer30

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ok there’s no point arguing with this glazer

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beaver_man

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Dubious Sinergy 🤓

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cartixuzi

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the "no OPer" arguement is one of the most brain dead takes about NRG istg. Demon1 literally showed us first-hand that OPing is overrated and honestly a big downgrade if you're already winning rifle fights consistently, but ppl still see it as a con somehow with him when he's consistently top fragging w/o OP. The fact that u can even say that he isn't a good OPer when he shits on everyone whenever he's FORCED to pick up the weapon is just pure delusion.

only flaws you can reasonably guess about this team is how Ethan will IGL and Marved's current form.

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MelatoninPopper

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Idk how mfs rate demon1 so low on his opping. This mf has hit a crazy amount of insane shots while oppong also he has 3k rounds on chamber bruh. Just bc he didnt op as much as aspas his rookie year doesnt mean he isnt an opper or cant op as well as the top oppers itw. Smh fake demon1 fans never saw him on sqn

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cartixuzi

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bc he doesnt buy an OP every other round he's apparently worse than mwzera xd

its like saying Demon1 has a flaw in that he's not as good of a classic user than TenZ or smth, an unbelievable amount of cope

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Breloof

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I've literally never seen a good Omen Paranoia from Lemon1, fraudulent player

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cioccolat

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The Op is for safekeeping space, it creates leeway for the defense to push and stack other areas, as good as someone may be on a rifle, the operator is a sure hit kill, which is why its valuable for more than just the kill itself but for its stopping power altogether.

Demon is not top 5 OPers
Which brings the weakness to energy due to their lack of Oper

accept your favorite has flaws

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widepeepofrosty

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your point about Marved is valid, I hope my goat doesn’t fall off 🙏

save the Americas league, jimmy

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LifeIsALie

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shud disband honestly

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TheAceGamer30

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Just like 100t should drop fraudsuna

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EMEAstan

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Insanely overrated team that will fail expectations 2 days from now

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cartixuzi

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i smell fear

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cartixuzi

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and that makes u weak

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Fraudnatic talking lul

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TheAceGamer30

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it will be funny when they fail to qualify for madrid

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The last one is a strong point tbh

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No, I don't agree with your points. I can't tell if you are baiting or not, but I'll try to be nice.

Demon1 is a fantastic awper, it's just boostio often awped on EG and demon1's rifling was so good that he didn't do it much.

Igl issue is fair.

Dubious synergy? Lol, this team has some of the best synergy in Americas what you on about? NV core + EG duo who are all good friends and have played
together.

Chet said they are cooking up some unique comps and all of these players have proven time and time again that they are flexible and can adapt. I wouldn't worry about where the meta goes.

Marved is ice cold, he joined sen after a long time and played great. His performance only started dipping when he was put on IGl duty.

Different System ( Demon1 was trained within Potter/Ziks/Screwface's system, there is a valid doubt he will be able to adapt to the different system, also the different scrim plan since they dont have a designated reserve roster for scrimming)

This is just speculation and cope. Demon1 was insane even before he joined EG, just wasn't well known. He's currently the best player itw I think he will be fine.

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TheAceGamer30

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stop glazing buddy

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Marhuee

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best player itw kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Yistyy

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Currently, it's inarguable. Aspas, less, alfa, and Ethan are in the top 5 but it can't be any of of them for #1.

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Marhuee

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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Yistyy

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Who would you say? I'm going off champs performances here.

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Marhuee

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bro has 1 year carrear and you saying hes the best in the world kkkkkkkkkkk
So pancada was the best in the world in 2022 cause he was the mvp of champs?

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Yistyy

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You are misinterpreting me. I'm not saying he's the greatest player to touch this game, I'm saying he's CURRENTLY the best player based on what we've seen last year. Can easily be dethroned soon.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Where did chet say they are cooking unique comps?

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Yistyy

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I saw him say it in FNS' chat and this dude said it too so I know I'm not crazy

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https://www.vlr.gg/post/3122521/nrg-roles

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Psion

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you forgot how solid ethan's omen was in his 100T days

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pessi_41

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dude it's 1v5 on that match. mwzera vs everyone.

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TheAceGamer30

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True

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DeluluGavin

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trained within Potter/Ziks/Screwface's system

this is like heaven for pro players
but I feel like the worries of op player shouldn't be THAT high? it all depends on how the team plays but some playstyle can find success without designated op player

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pessi_41

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chamber is coming back 🔙

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DeluluGavin

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oh right i forgot about the buffs. If chamber gets utilised as much as he did when he was no brainer pick, then i guess NRG 'might' have a slight problem but im sure it won't be that catastrophic

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https://www.vlr.gg/player/26171/demon1/?timespan=all

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DeluluGavin

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still havent seen the same impact when he was on chamber than when he was on jett in tier 1 scene but demon1 got his shots so it still wont be a problem that will hinder NRG

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people forgetting how good demon1 is at opping is so funny

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Marhuee

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how can he be so good at oping and have the lowest sense? and saying that he dont like to op

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Low sens = more precise

And just because he has low sens doesn’t mean he is not a fast aimer

He actually has the fastest aim in the game - https://youtu.be/cGAVxKkbEqo?si=r_9Ll4PFKoModUWe

Bro rarely misses

And just because you don’t like doing something doesn’t mean that you are not the best at it

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low sens = no flick he has to be in a good position every time

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cartixuzi

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do u believe this y/n and be srs

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Most braindead post I’ve ever read lmao

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DEMON1 IS THE KING OF FLICKING

ARE U ACTUALLY SERIOUS TELLING ME DEMON1 CANT FLICK?

GIVE ME A BREAK

THERE ARE LIKE 100000 CLIPS OF HIM FLICKIING

HE IS LITERALLY KNOWN FOR FLICKING?

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show me demon1 fliking with op

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Asuna_Yuuki

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“https://youtu.be/-Qjtl3YnsAo?si=lZI6qKWejVLKiqtB

I hope you realize there is a sensitivity multiplier when using sniper in Valorant

Rifle sens and op sens are different

Demon1’s op sens multiplier is on so his op sens is actually much faster than his rifle sens

And I can tell you don’t understand the game when flicks are how you measure op skill

Flicks are the least important part of aiming in this game because you are rarely required to flick

Whats more important is speed and consistency

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cB8fnbppMI
this is a flick, he had a good croisshair placement, saying that demon1 is know for his flicks is criminal

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TheAceGamer30

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Don’t bother with him he’s diehard NRG fan he won’t stop making delusional comments

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this is true the ratio raw 1:1 rifle sens to op sens would be 0.747 to 1, if demon1 sens is equivalent to 800 dpi 0.2 then his op sens would be somewhere around 0.26-28, still pretty low imo as i play on 0.7 but yea its def high than 0.2. People dont realize flicks are just really lucky shots theres no one in the world that can consistently flick people. Sens also has nothing to do with how fast the flick is, like just move ur hand faster lol

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TheAceGamer30

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I’ve never seen a single demon1 clip being known for flicking 😂. Only his headshots only when fighting people

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demon1 does have 3090 rounds played on Chamber a character with a built in op.

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TheAceGamer30

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Are u literally stupid yes he played chamber on bind that’s it and how many rounds did he play it and use the op when playing chamber. It’s certainly not 3090

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Calm down lol. This isn't something to get upset about. I just mentioned he has played a lot of rounds on a character that primarily uses an op. Why so on edge man?

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I am calm lol. He just isn’t know to be an oper that’s all

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Are u literally stupid? I didn't disagree with that lol. I'm just adding to the conversation

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TheAceGamer30

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Yeah Ik bro relax

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He was a Chamber main before joining EG. He pretty much played nothing but Chamber on every map for a year (for 3090 rounds). And while playing Chamber, he consistently played Op. Just pick any of his games from the Chamber meta and you'll see him consistently get kills with the Operator.

https://www.vlr.gg/146824/sqn-2-0-vs-mct-esports-liquid-open-2022-north-america-playoffs-lbf/?game=97735&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/146817/sqn-2-0-vs-project-vii-liquid-open-2022-north-america-playoffs-ubf/?game=97726&tab=performance
https://www.vlr.gg/142807/sqn-2-0-vs-the-pig-pen-knights-weekly-12-gf/?game=all&tab=performance

The only reason he wasn't EG's main Oper is because Boostio (who has also played tons of Jett and Chamber) wanted to.

I know you haven't developed object permanence yet though, so all good.

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TheAceGamer30

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Oh I’m an idiot yes he did play chamber a lot before eg and yes boostio played op that’s why he rarely played op

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"No actual Oper" you don't have to be an op crutch or a yay/aspas to be a good enough AWPer to own in T1, especially when your rifle is world-class and can make up for that easily.
"Dubious Sinergy" you can say this about every roster
"Meta Role Conflict" Demon1 started the season playing KJ, he can get better at the sentinel role if it's needed
"Marved has been out of Play for a very long time" he played almost an entire season with SEN? His performance only started to drop AFTER he was IGLing, he was good before then.
"Different System" you can say this about every roster move

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ethan got no brain so its over

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TheAceGamer30

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Yeah why are people so high on him on igling he’s probably gonna be so mid

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Marved played last season what are you talking about?

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nrg is fine as long as if jimmy off igl. if he does anything close to trying to igl its gg.