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Pancada not being on the team

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#1
Ausam

So,i watched the sen podcast and here's the reason why pancada might not be on the team. Kaplan said that when dephh was on sen,he was an igl that needed to be w the pack,so they needed to put pancada on senti.So, now that johnqt is an igl and he is also a lurker,the team basically has to be able to handle themselves when johnqt is lurking because its hard to lurk and igl when u can't get constant info on other parts of the map.So,this is why zellsis is on the roster.Kap said zellsis brings that midrounding on the team and since he is more w the pack ,he can call for the team during midround.Now you might ask why bench pancada then?why not bench tenz and have pancada play?They also talked about how they liked the ideas tenz brings and how creative he is w the agents.So,they basically want all vocal players which pancada isn't. Of course they didn't say pancada specifically,but they did say some players were not as vocal for the overall team.The more voice they got during the round the more info the better decision they can make during the ronud.Pancada obv isn't that and he wasn't that on loud either cause loud got saadhak,sacy and less doing it.

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Its clear as day listening to pancada his english is still little, I always knew pancada wasnt on the team because of that and thats why zellsis was picked over him. Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game So i see why they chose him over Pancada for that reason too.

But the VLR fanbase will tell you that they need pancada over both and just shit on tenz then somehow call zellsis a fraud and shit.

But overall I really hope to see pancada on a team that will use him more likely a BR team again hopefully as I don't want to see him on a Full English speaking team.

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fair enough. whatever fits the team better.

just don’t be disrespectful and not address the issue at all. no transparency, or being outright. “we are starting zellsis because of off season success and the team is gelling. pancada is 6th man for now.” would suffice and we would all understand.

sentinels are so bad at that. no departure post for dephh, marved, dapr and no announcement for pancada being benched.

respect your players enough to at least address it.

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Ausam
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Shawn23 [#2]

Its clear as day listening to pancada his english is still little, I always knew pancada wasnt on the team because of that and thats why zellsis was picked over him. Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game So i see why they chose him over Pancada for that reason too.

But the VLR fanbase will tell you that they need pancada over both and just shit on tenz then somehow call zellsis a fraud and shit.

But overall I really hope to see pancada on a team that will use him more likely a BR team again hopefully as I don't want to see him on a Full English speaking team.

it seems like they picked tenz over pancada cause he bring ideas and is very creative.It seems like tenz is working w drew and kap to bring new ideas.Which is always good.

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Ausam
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moonemi [#3]

fair enough. whatever fits the team better.

just don’t be disrespectful and not address the issue at all. no transparency, or being outright. “we are starting zellsis because of off season success and the team is gelling. pancada is 6th man for now.” would suffice and we would all understand.

sentinels are so bad at that. no departure post for dephh, marved, dapr and no announcement for pancada being benched.

respect your players enough to at least address it.

yea fair but i think they are doing this to keep the people guessing who might play.Cause u gotta remember a lot people don't really keep up constantly w the comp scene.So,this works in sens favor that way,sort of like to keep people guessing.Which gets more eyeball on them.

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jerryiswatching
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Shawn23 [#2]

Its clear as day listening to pancada his english is still little, I always knew pancada wasnt on the team because of that and thats why zellsis was picked over him. Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game So i see why they chose him over Pancada for that reason too.

But the VLR fanbase will tell you that they need pancada over both and just shit on tenz then somehow call zellsis a fraud and shit.

But overall I really hope to see pancada on a team that will use him more likely a BR team again hopefully as I don't want to see him on a Full English speaking team.

heard some rumors that MxS will become Sentinels affiliate team and that Pancada will replace thief

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AlexSMTxx
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free my boy, he wasting his talent there

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jamONE
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moonemi [#3]

fair enough. whatever fits the team better.

just don’t be disrespectful and not address the issue at all. no transparency, or being outright. “we are starting zellsis because of off season success and the team is gelling. pancada is 6th man for now.” would suffice and we would all understand.

sentinels are so bad at that. no departure post for dephh, marved, dapr and no announcement for pancada being benched.

respect your players enough to at least address it.

same thing i felt. every time a player gets dropped, benched or set to inactive, they never say anything. If they put in that much time, at least have the respect and decency to announce the changes so fans aren't left wondering.

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Ausam [#5]

yea fair but i think they are doing this to keep the people guessing who might play.Cause u gotta remember a lot people don't really keep up constantly w the comp scene.So,this works in sens favor that way,sort of like to keep people guessing.Which gets more eyeball on them.

disrespecting their players for "hype" lol... but tbf sen has probably already made it very clear to him what his situation is, it's just not public

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jamONE [#8]

same thing i felt. every time a player gets dropped, benched or set to inactive, they never say anything. If they put in that much time, at least have the respect and decency to announce the changes so fans aren't left wondering.

i mean i kinda dont see why they would?Pancada is still getting paid?He doesn't have to play?The least he can do is stay quiet?If pancada wanted to leave fr ,they would let him go probably.People gotta see the bussiness side of things too, at the end of the day,its bussiness,sure we love the competition but without the bussinesses there is no competition,so we gotta respect the people that also keep it afloat.Unless its a situation like EG which it isn't.No one is being held against their will.

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jerryiswatching [#6]

heard some rumors that MxS will become Sentinels affiliate team and that Pancada will replace thief

that wouldn’t be a bad idea, ONLY because other teams are solidified with there roster as of now, but Pancada too good to be playing Tier 2

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Ausam [#4]

it seems like they picked tenz over pancada cause he bring ideas and is very creative.It seems like tenz is working w drew and kap to bring new ideas.Which is always good.

i think it’s more in game then out of game when they speak on this , TenZ is a very smart player to not be a IGL and he does things you wouldn’t expect even on his stream bro is using his brain and then mechanic wise he’s top 10 in the game. :p

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Ausam [#10]

i mean i kinda dont see why they would?Pancada is still getting paid?He doesn't have to play?The least he can do is stay quiet?If pancada wanted to leave fr ,they would let him go probably.People gotta see the bussiness side of things too, at the end of the day,its bussiness,sure we love the competition but without the bussinesses there is no competition,so we gotta respect the people that also keep it afloat.Unless its a situation like EG which it isn't.No one is being held against their will.

Some PR is better than zero PR, that's how I see it. Announce it at least so people aren't like huh? You announced Zellsis in a full blown video as 6th man, then Pancada disappears to the bench? Lol. As fans I'm sure they would appreciate knowing some of these things for transparency reasons. It promotes trust in the org and players you're rooting for when you can leave the cards on the table, otherwise it just makes it seem sketchy/shady to hide things like that, just my personal opinion.

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kraplan, rob moore and his buddies trust americans more 🤷‍♂️ sen will be exposed soon though all good

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nutab1e [#14]

kraplan, rob moore and his buddies trust americans more 🤷‍♂️ sen will be exposed soon though all good

wdym trust?They still go sacy in there since he's vocal

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yeah makes sense, the only way i see it going wrong is if they lose confidence in a match, then no matter the vibes or ideas, they'll still lose the duels, that's a situation where pancada could get a lot of value by winning cluthes and getting kills to win some rounds and bring the team back on a match, but we still didn't see sentinels losing confidence since zellsis got in, let's see how they go in this death group

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donkkomong
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This is why NA mixing up with BR is dumb as fuck. Fucked shit up for CSGO and will do the same for Valorant. Rather see quality players and teams playing from their own regions and give the viewers better hype representing their own countries/regions.

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JoaoFidelis
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Ausam [#4]

it seems like they picked tenz over pancada cause he bring ideas and is very creative.It seems like tenz is working w drew and kap to bring new ideas.Which is always good.

which episode? Can you send me the link?

#19
Xabrusca
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Nah, they just cant bench tenz (fans would stop supporting) so they have to make shit up to justify a dumb decision

#20
ValdemieGC
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mid player

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turkey
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Shawn23 [#2]

Its clear as day listening to pancada his english is still little, I always knew pancada wasnt on the team because of that and thats why zellsis was picked over him. Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game So i see why they chose him over Pancada for that reason too.

But the VLR fanbase will tell you that they need pancada over both and just shit on tenz then somehow call zellsis a fraud and shit.

But overall I really hope to see pancada on a team that will use him more likely a BR team again hopefully as I don't want to see him on a Full English speaking team.

pancada > tenz mechanically any year after 2021

#22
babysasuke
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yeah this team isnt doing shit this year

good thing they will have Zellshits to keep the vibes up while they bomb every qualifier

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Al-Mawsil
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jerryiswatching [#6]

heard some rumors that MxS will become Sentinels affiliate team and that Pancada will replace thief

thief is cracked let him grow

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SmartPerson
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ValdemieGC [#20]

mid player

talkin this with this flair of a region full of mid-not good enough players

#25
SmartPerson
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if this is 100% true i think its fair enough to keep zellsis and tenz, but they ruining pancada career btw, he deserves a better team if hes not able to play on sen by because of sen methodology

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so what im seeing is pancada is an amazing player but he just doesnt fit into sentinel's vision of their ideal roster. Pancada is probably getting paid a good bag right now at sen but he probably still wants to compete. maybe he will be a shared player for a challenger's team

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NneonZz [#26]

so what im seeing is pancada is an amazing player but he just doesnt fit into sentinel's vision of their ideal roster. Pancada is probably getting paid a good bag right now at sen but he probably still wants to compete. maybe he will be a shared player for a challenger's team

basically.Cause it seems like johnqt just can't igl fully or micro manage the team when he is lurking ,so the other players need to be able to give ideas or midround.In order to do that they need very vocal active players who play w the team.Pancada is extremely good but he just isn't that type of player.

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h1gh_fall
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turkey [#21]

pancada > tenz mechanically any year after 2021

downvoted for telling the truth

#29
ValdemieGC
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not good enoigh sadly

#30
mzto
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pancada back on loud again????

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Ausam
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ValdemieGC [#29]

not good enoigh sadly

no pancada is good ,just not in the right team for him

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h1gh_fall
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Ausam [#31]

no pancada is good ,just not in the right team for him

the thing is that there's no right team for him, mibr make their changes based on hallucinations or something, loud surely won't get him back unless tuyz mess up badly, the only team i see working out for him is furia, but i don't know if they'll be able to achieve something just by signing pancada, and it will be hard for a english speaking team want him after the "pancada has bad english" narrative even though it's not true

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Ausam
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h1gh_fall [#32]

the thing is that there's no right team for him, mibr make their changes based on hallucinations or something, loud surely won't get him back unless tuyz mess up badly, the only team i see working out for him is furia, but i don't know if they'll be able to achieve something just by signing pancada, and it will be hard for a english speaking team want him after the "pancada has bad english" narrative even though it's not true

well tbh pancada was in the perfect place in loud in 2022 cause no language barrier and he had people that could lead him,so all he had to focus on was his gameplay.Now it's different and even if he somehow has good english or enough to get by,his biggest problem would be commnig i feel.Cause he isn't really type of player or at least from what we have seen is to be vocal.So the only way for him to do that would be on a brazilian roster w great leadership in it.

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ShuraGam
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Shawn23 [#2]

Its clear as day listening to pancada his english is still little, I always knew pancada wasnt on the team because of that and thats why zellsis was picked over him. Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game So i see why they chose him over Pancada for that reason too.

But the VLR fanbase will tell you that they need pancada over both and just shit on tenz then somehow call zellsis a fraud and shit.

But overall I really hope to see pancada on a team that will use him more likely a BR team again hopefully as I don't want to see him on a Full English speaking team.

Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game

Bro has never seen Pancada play.

Pancada is arguably the best player mechanic-wise on sentinels. The word "arguably" only being there because of Zekken.

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HavocWEEB
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Al-Mawsil [#23]

thief is cracked let him grow

hes already been dropped

#36
Ballsamolee
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Al-Mawsil [#23]

thief is cracked let him grow

you living under a rock lil bro?

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Shawn23
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ShuraGam [#34]

Tenz is mechanically better then pancada at the game

Bro has never seen Pancada play.

Pancada is arguably the best player mechanic-wise on sentinels. The word "arguably" only being there because of Zekken.

I never said pancada was bad or anything ? Hes still very good mechanically. But TenZ is argubly one of the best players in the game when it comes to mechanics.

If you think pancada is better then TenZ mechanically that's just pure biased towards pancada and your just showing your hate towards TenZ at that point.

#38
smthlikeyou11
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sure but what i dont get is why they dont just drop them why like keep him in contract jail lol if u dont need him why pay him a paycheck get him off tf im sure there are offers and im sure pancada wants to play too

#39
Sinbad
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Shawn23 [#12]

i think it’s more in game then out of game when they speak on this , TenZ is a very smart player to not be a IGL and he does things you wouldn’t expect even on his stream bro is using his brain and then mechanic wise he’s top 10 in the game. :p

Nah I am sen fan but the tenz glazing is wild

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Ausam
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smthlikeyou11 [#38]

sure but what i dont get is why they dont just drop them why like keep him in contract jail lol if u dont need him why pay him a paycheck get him off tf im sure there are offers and im sure pancada wants to play too

they aren't keeping him in contract jail tho

#41
smthlikeyou11
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Ausam [#40]

they aren't keeping him in contract jail tho

mb i dont follow up with pancada drama

#42
huhferno
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KOI pancada

#43
TheAceGamer30
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smthlikeyou11 [#38]

sure but what i dont get is why they dont just drop them why like keep him in contract jail lol if u dont need him why pay him a paycheck get him off tf im sure there are offers and im sure pancada wants to play too

Who said he wants to leave no one knows what he wants to do while being on sens bench

#44
smthlikeyou11
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TheAceGamer30 [#43]

Who said he wants to leave no one knows what he wants to do while being on sens bench

i heard smwhere that he is intrested in playing

#45
TheAceGamer30
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smthlikeyou11 [#44]

i heard smwhere that he is intrested in playing

Ofc he wants to play lmao but is he gonna find tier 1 team now ofc not he’s better off waiting for a chance to present itself

#46
Al-Mawsil
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HavocWEEB [#35]

hes already been dropped

damn

#47
FrogGrenade
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jerryiswatching [#6]

heard some rumors that MxS will become Sentinels affiliate team and that Pancada will replace thief

Rob confirmed on Wyatt's podcast they will not have an affiliate

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kalayav_n
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toorrrr pancada

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