Explain why Fnatic is not the best team anymore

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TheAceGamer30

Idk I think they are still the best but people will probably disagree

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They are still the best team, but several teams can surpass them in a few months

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TheAceGamer30

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who can surpass them

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LEV, NRG, SEN on Americas
NAVI, VIT, FUT on EMEA
PRX on APAC

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TheAceGamer30

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Americas sure

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LEV, NRG, SEN mayve
VIT, FUT no
PRX very small chance

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TheAceGamer30

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Agreed

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Conut

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Benjy fishy

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Because NRG exists

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TheAceGamer30

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None of them have beaten fnc lol
Edit: you downvote me all you want it’s true guys none of those players even had a chance against them

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unknown_trash

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??? They haven't played yet??? And LOUD did beat them... by that logic fnatic doesn't stand a chance against LOUD

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TheAceGamer30

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Nah Ik man but fnc last time destroyed NRG that’s why I said that I don’t think demon1 and Ethan will change much

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TheAceGamer30

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Do you lot honestly think this nrg team can beat fnc that’s some insane copium
Edit: can’t accept that it is copium lol

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Bro NRG are a completely different team

They only have 2 returning players

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Mozzarellas

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the 2 worst, imagine keeping trashies and kektor instead of fns and som

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unknown_trash

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Ok s0m yeah he should have stayed but fns should just become a coach at this point and train another mini fns. His time is up. Fns is basically a dinosaur in the esports world.

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TheAceGamer30

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Fns > Ethan anyday for igl

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For igl, sure. But do you want nrg to get stomped again because it turns into a 4v5? And age clearly doesn't make you better when you reach 30+. His experience is better used to teach others, either through his streams or through coaching new igls.

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bronzil_enjoyer

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why are you so pissed about downvotes

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Mid igl mid duelist and elmapussy as coach

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TheAceGamer30

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Igl with high clutch rate, top 3 duelist in the world wdum

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Top 3 duelist?

aspas
Demon1
something

He doesnt even make in the top5 on my books

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TheAceGamer30

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Something ain’t got championship

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Hes objectively a better player than d0rke, also you can put jinggg in his place

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alecksdesk

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he got higher in champs than b0tke, so therefore he got closer to a championship

while b0tke been in the scene for 3 years, still no champs trophy. not even close to one.

ilya in tier 1 for one year, his first event was a champs final.

in 5 years, who do u think will achieve more? its a no brainer.

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TheAceGamer30

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Who has more trophies 🤣derke or something use your brain pls

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u said championship, and b0tke never even got close to one

serial choker, he even got carried to the fluke ass trophies he does have. just get fnatic a better igl + duelist and they gonna dominate.

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Something top 3 is wild

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Wylie

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Demon1 the baiting duelist didn't even play his role - 1 map in 6.

https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf
Derke FK FD 20-11
Demon1 FK FD 4-8

https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf
Derke FK FD 16-22
Demon1 FK FD 12-4

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IGL that can't counterstrat or midround and stops IGLing to try to 1v5 and pad his stats when he thinks the map is lost

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Conut

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Wait please don't disrespect australian coach

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Reasons as to why Fnatic is not the best team anymore:

Because

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babysasuke

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Have been outstratted since Champions:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf

Almost lost to Clown9 with c0rry, who's main roster is getting cleared by Tier 2 NA teams:
https://www.vlr.gg/283101/cloud9-vs-fnatic-red-bull-home-ground-4-gf

They were never really the best, won 2 Mickey Mouse tournaments with the most basic rat gameplay imaginable and fooled smallbraided forum users into thinking they were real contenders

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PINTO0

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bro curry is the best player in the world Respect

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babysasuke

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better than boaster apparently kkkkkkkk

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TheAceGamer30

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Loud is just fnatics kryptonite and c9 was close because they were using old Strats to win

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babysasuke

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strangest cope I've ever seen

wonder what you'll cook up when VIT and FUT qual for internationals over them

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TheAceGamer30

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really if that happens then fnc is trash

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babysasuke

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They are, trust

They need a new Duelist and IGL

Good start with dropping m0ni, but the other 2 have to go too

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nutab1e

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m0ni is back

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babysasuke

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as a cheerleader, that's fine 💀

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Udarara

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They literally only lost to 1 team, if losing to loud makes you overrated trash then I guess the entire Americas league is overrated trash. We get that you have some weird parasocial obsession with boaster and derke but you have got to find more creative copes than just calling their wins Mickey Mouse tournaments and saying the same thing anytime someone brings them up. Unless you are in a contest with yessirski to see who can cope and cry more.

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TheAceGamer30

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Well said man

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babysasuke

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I'm just a fan of good Valorant, and b0tster has been holding back EMEA since 2021

Every fraudulent Fnatic roster runs the same lame defaults and rat plays to make up for their skill diff and makes the rest of EMEA afraid to actually play the game

embarrassing and sad to watch, and even more embarrassing that they've been doing the same thing for 3 years and it magically works in the 2 worst events Riot has ever put on and no one catches on

results based analysis when Fnatic wins a for-fun event, but when EG wins Champions and demon1 puts on the greatest international performance seen since TenZ in Iceland nobody is convinced

You cope and cry, actual braindead nerd

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TheAceGamer30

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Your a defo troll I can’t take any of the stuff you said serious 😂

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Udarara

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Once again the only one coping and crying is you. All you did was just repeat yourself and give 0 rebuttal. FInd new copes beyond Mickey Mouse tournament and rat strats (Which is both just untrue). You only call them the worst events because they won and you know it. You and the EMEA dumbasses use the same braindead copes when the other region wins. Your copes used to be funny now they are just pathetic. Get some creativity going.

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babysasuke

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bro literally asked for an explaination of why Fnatic isnt the best team

I gave him what he asked for, and for some reason YOU'RE bad about it 😭

Strange kids these days looking for creativity and amusement when I'm giving a genuine answer to the question.

AND if you think me calling LOCK//IN a fluke tournament is a cope and not objective fact, you lose the right to ever speak to me again

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Udarara

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You didn't give anything, you just spouted the same braindead copes repeatedly (and will probably reply with the same insults again).
If that is your genuine answer then you really are just a complete idiot who has no understanding of the game.
You lost the right to ever type anything to me again.
Stay Coping Stay Crying.

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babysasuke

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find God 🙏

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Udarara

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But did you pray today🙏

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put some respect on my man curry's name

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Marved-NA-Savior

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I think Alfajer is going to dominate all of EMEA this year

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TheAceGamer30

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Finally non delusional NRG fan xd I getting downvoted for anything 🤣

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FUT is winning EMEA everyone knows

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TheAceGamer30

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Futs 2nd

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Fnatic play a very slow default heavy style which obviously works for them most the time but can be exploited by high level teams with similar firepower like loud last year. If Fnatic can add more pace mix ups and maintain all their good qualities from 2023 they’re going to stay number 1 + icebox back and no pearl means their current map pool is better than the champs one but that’ll change throughout the year

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TheAceGamer30

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Yeah fnc is gonna be insane with the current map pool

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Keep downvoting me NRG copium is high for all of you fnc clears

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Hard to tell if their champ's performance, which was still good, was because of them getting complacent or teams figuring out their playstyle. Fnatic have maps where they're not impossible to beat, i.e., ascent, lotus, and Bind. They're definitely the top candidate this year considering that every other top team of last year, presumably, got weaker. Meanwhile, Fnatic's best map reentered the map pool. There are a lot of dark horses this year, and I can see them challenging Fnatic: sen, lev, loud, and nrg. Hard to say until the season starts.

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usersux

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Mid igl

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Anyone saying FNC isn’t the best team on paper is someone who doesn’t know Valorant. Period

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TheAceGamer30

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Exactly

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FNC roster is amazing but they might play bad this year, it all comes down to how much they want to win and how hard they practice.

Anyways i think Derke will carry them to Madrid and Champions

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TheAceGamer30

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nah their only kryptonite is loud and they lost aspas so it makes them less likely to qualify so meaning fnc will probably win everything