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TOP 5 GREATEST DUELISTS OF ALL TIME

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#1
Spirals
  1. aspas
    in terms of what he's achieved regionally and internationally and his own performances that contributed to those great placements he's gotta be nr 1

  2. derke
    long list of great placings and tournament wins, does his job, has had his fair share of amazing tournament preformances, one of the most consistent players throughout the entire history of valorant

  3. yay
    the best preforming "duelist"/chamber for an entire year and great preformances back in 2021 as well, best player of pre franchise

  4. demon1
    in my mind unarguably current best player in the world, champions mvp.

  5. cned
    very good at peak form, won champs, kinda mid this year but still was good on jett

who didnt make the list and why
tenz - one tournament wonder
keznit - hasnt achieved enough high placings
something - too early to put him here, not enough lans

anyone i forgot or anyone who has a case to be here?

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Mozzarellas
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Scream would be here if he wasnt igling

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azureblade101
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imo he should be directly 2nd, a case for 1st even, if he wasnt igling, hes actually way too good

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moatz
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Yea idk why Adil decided to igl. Bro rlly thought he would become the next fns, moatz, or tarik πŸ’€

#25
bronzil_enjoyer
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bro snuck moatz in

#63
CookieSir
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bro thought he could sneak fns in

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thatpower
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bro snuck in tarik πŸ’€

#3
OkOkay
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oxy #1

#4
DetonationFocusMeiy
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JJ clears

#27
bigboy
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champions only sorry

#38
HisamZx
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it didnt say anytrhing about champions lol. Jj clears all of em in aim.

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bigboy
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champions only sorry

#5
juho
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Demon1 clears Derke hard

#13
Milu
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derke 5:1 demon1

#6
Itsover
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d3ffo b1sk something demon1 yay

#8
Mr_milo
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d0ffo

b0sk

#17
Itsover
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d3ffo>entire NA(except Russian import demon1 aka goat1), same for b1sk

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acaron
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Smoking crack

#93
bear14
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deffo got put down by hiko fuck u mean

#11
SmartPerson
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y0y

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Er3ngenes1s
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semen0 y0y

#7
bronzil_enjoyer
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W list

#9
kaninv
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W list and I think very objective considering achievements and how well they played

#10
destroylonely
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W list

#12
myth77
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W list

#14
widepeepofrosty
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i agree aspas is the goat of all time!

#64
Mr_milo
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Weird way to spell yay

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jawn
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yay > derke , yay has won titles and set records while being the best player on his team

#18
SmartPerson
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i was thinking about that too, like yay good on 2021 and 2022, derke just good on 2023, i know he was good before too but i mean yay made history on the past years and brought happy to the na comunity, derke was doing good on emea vct but fnatic always choke on international events in the past

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jawn
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he was good before, just not good enough to lead his team to a trophy, he was the 3rd best player in the team in every trophy he won

#42
cboomer
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yay isnt a duelist, hes a pivot derke is a far better duelist lol unless u wanna include chamber but victor and alfa were duelists in that meta

#54
jawn
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derke hasn't touched yay's duelist peak

#59
cboomer
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uh derke is the greatest valorant entry ever yay doesnt even entry, kinda hard to justify yay being a great duelist

#60
jawn
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where in the post does it say greatest entry?

#61
cboomer
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yay is the greatest chamber sure but u cant be the best duelist without being an entry, yay was never an elite entry just an elite rifler/awper

#77
cboomer
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whats your point, good numbers dont mean shit heat was on yays level in that tournament too nobody calls him the goat, it was 2021.

Derke has been top 5 duelist since masters 2 iceland and has ALWAYS been a real duelist, yay is a second duelist.

Yay isn't even a contender is my point, completely different roles/players

Yay doesn't belong in duelist convos because comparing yay to jinggg is nonsense, even yay to aspas or sayf is nonsense

#34
Spirals
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yea i thought of that while making the list but i just couldn't do it when i thought about the fact that yay didnt play this year and derke won 2 titles
some recency bias is a factor in this list too considering that the game is evolving rapidly i feel that each tournament is harder than the next

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feaN
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where tf is gtn?

#22
yoyoyo_8382
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No tenz fraudulent list. Yay didn’t do shit on Jett in 2022 and chamber ain’t a duellist

#28
SmartPerson
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yay had a bad year but lets be honest hes one of the best duelist of na if not the best, demon1 and yay clears tenz so freaking hard, tenz has been on a bad phase since after 2021 iceland, he plays so well but if this actual sen lineup dont work, he will never win anything on sentinels, not even t2 or off season tournaments, like his bad phase its not about himself, but his team

#30
yoyoyo_8382
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0/8 keep doubting my king 😈😈😈

#29
destroylonely
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t0nz

#23
chubifps
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loved this tho imo keznit should be 5th cuz of his consistence at his individual stats and performance, you can see that in the last 2 years he has been consistenly first or second of his team in every tournament

#35
Spirals
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i wanted to put keznit here but his team hasn't been good enough, if this was solely based on individual performance keznit would 100% be here since he has been good for 3 years straight and can play practically every duelist unlike many others

#24
YeetusSchmeetus
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6 inches of Ardiis

#26
CGX
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all time ?? and u put demon1 there? give him another 2 years. you never know this game keeps on changing,
go back to this List

#31
cocoluna
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ur username reminds me of a PF youtuber

#36
Spirals
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aware

#32
TheAqif
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respectable list maybe not cned tho

#84
Er3ngenes1s
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guy won champs

#33
acels2
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blud sneaked in y0y πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€

#37
finnwithtwons
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https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf
demon1 at 4th while aspas at 1st.... walk me through it
better ESR on astra than aspas on raze btw

also derke at 2nd 2 slots above demon1... lets see what happens when they go head to head
https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf/?game=all&tab=performance (still won the head to head matchup despite getting 3-0d!)
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf/?game=all&tab=performance -5 in demon1's favour btw

nostalgia bias goes CRAZY to put yay above him in the chamber crutch meta πŸ’€πŸ’€πŸ’€ be serious

#41
Spirals
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legit said demon1 was best player itw rn but brodie this is an all time list and that means i considered longevity and achievements heavily
derke clears everyone here in team achievements with aspas and yay being 2nd and 3rd in that regard...
also demon1 has no longevity to factor in unlike literally everyone else on this list... for all we know he could end up just like tenz did after iceland
i like demon1 lots but he needs more time to go up in this list

#39
Liem
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  1. leaf
  2. tex
  3. saya
  4. trent (raze)
  5. jonahP
#40
Zerphyr1
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an actual good list, this is rare.

#43
Sentry1
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t0nz

#44
kamisavitar
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Jingg should be here
2 times masters finalist
And 1 time champions
He is like the REAL DUELIST, Not just one trick jett and mid on others

cNed peaked onli in 2021 and dat too champs onli good shi
The list should be
Aspas
Derke
Yay
Jingg
Demon1

#45
number2_cNed_fan
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If you are saying cNed was only good in 2021, Yay shouldn't even be on this list. He peaked 2022 and then got destroyed in T2 instead of farming

#47
kamisavitar
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Yay was even good in 2021, go check stats vro,
Where was cNed in 2022?

#49
number2_cNed_fan
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cNed was even good in 2022, go check stats vro,
Where was Yay in 2023?

#50
kamisavitar
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Couldn't even qualify a masters or champs with his CHAMPS team, was good in 2022 lmao....
And u expect things from Yay in DSG

Checked d stat vro:
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/984/champions-tour-emea-stage-2-challengers😭

#51
number2_cNed_fan
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You expect things from cNed in Acend during Acend's worst times?

cNed clears Yay is stats

#52
kamisavitar
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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/449/valorant-champions-2021

Yay is even Above (cNed at his peak)
Lmaoooookkk

#83
Er3ngenes1s
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turkish players are always built different man. Alfajer, cNed, qraxs etc..

#89
number2_cNed_fan
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The Turkish aim is crazy, too bad I wasn't gifted with such skill

#46
yaiima0
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Derke is way too high πŸ’€

#48
Zerphyr1
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explain why

#55
capital_d_colon
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Me personally I would have derke number 1.
Greatest longevity for a duelist to date.
One of the best space takers in the game.

I understand why others would have aspas number 1, he is phenomenal.

Also tenz isn't a one tournament wonder, he had very good performances multiple international events in 2021.

#56
juugobr_
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No d3ffo in this list what a heresy

#58
Hockey-Stick
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no saya and skrossi = wrong

#62
Simp4S0m
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Derke should be 4

#65
txnzi
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demon1 #1

#66
Prontera
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I don't understand why yay is in there. Because chamber is not a duelist. He is an okay jett but not that great. Not great enough to be top 5 of all time. I personally will take jingg and put him as #5. Because he is have been a good duelist for a long time and a consistent one too, also always show up on big stage.

#67
Vegaaa
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Cned is the only man you can say carried his team to champs. on top of that, it was against gambit, arguably the goat team.

#68
Vegaaa
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Best duelist feat wise: Aspas
Best Duelist by pure skill: Demon1
Best duelist by agent pool/skill overall: Aspas
Overall: Aspas

Biggest breakthrough duelist: Demon1 > Kang Kang > Something

#70
Cromawarrior48
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demon 1 and yay are aim differs. you forgot sayf btw.

#71
peyoek
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love sayf but no achievements

#73
Cromawarrior48
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he hasnt found the right team yet :/ Old guild was probably the team

#79
peyoek
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vitality will be good

#88
Cromawarrior48
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i hope it is. They have the potential to remove the 1 or zero team region tag.

#72
antikapasiki
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Derke πŸ’€

#74
kapteN
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Actually a good list for once

People who complain about derke being on the list show they only understand valorant from a ranked play perspective and don’t understand organized pro play

#75
xLeo
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jinggg?

#76
0fcuZ
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Mid and overrated. Also one trick. Also zero international trophy. Y'all can downvote but it's just a fact.

#95
Xyarin
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I never knew jinggg was overrated. Isnt he best duelist of 2023 in terms stats ?

#81
Er3ngenes1s
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bringing in a chamber player here is a skeptical one. he isa very good chamber player not duelist and also he isnt aggressive at all with his duelist role

#82
Zerphyr1
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he still top 5 as he was also a good jett before chamber meta and the only time he hasnt been amazing was this year when he played in tier 2 but yes this is a duelist thread to be fair and chamber is not a duelist but we also cant ignore 2021

#85
Er3ngenes1s
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well, then it can be clearly said that his chamber is more impactful than his duelist role and more fitting for chamber rather than on duelist. that's why he did better in 2022 than in 2021.

#86
Zerphyr1
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yes

#90
ALoKi007
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Bud thinks he did something πŸ«΅πŸ˜‚

#91
ALoKi007
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HE FUCKING DID!!!!!!!!!!!

#92
TheAceGamer30
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demon1 went to two lans and he’s on the list

#94
Xyarin
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I would love to put Jinggg on that, cuz his last years stats were crazy. Literally close to Prime yay and aspas. also he is really consistent as well.
but then again the list is also really good.

I would defo put jinggg in the place or Cned or yay.

Actually nevermind I would put Jinggg instead of yay for sure. yay prime was very short. Most of it could be credited to broken agent at the time chamber which wasnt even Duelist.
So yay being on this doesn't make sense. Jinggg does. except major trophy he checks all boxes. Not 1 trick and hell of a consistency.

#96
aaannnddddd
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yay and demon1 played jett and should not be considered a "duelist" player, victor and jawg were the duelists for the most part and demon1/yay would just play jett so u cant really put them up there

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