EMEA LCQ bracket released

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SHITVI ISNT MAKING IT OUT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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hijacking this dumbass comment because I wanna ask, what's the point of the grand finals of LCQ? both of the teams there will qualify anyway, I hope this isn't another "saving strats" series just like in EMEA GF

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jott

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seeding placement

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M0K1

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champions doesn't have seedings it's 4 groups of 4 teams and top 2 of each to playoffs

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Nisham

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Seeding on how they make the group in the first place.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881590587944472678/1122537581222047785/image.png

Maybe this is how they do it?

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bro said NA

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M0K1

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what i meant was there was no special spots like masters all teams start in groups and have to make way to playoffs

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mysterii

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but theyre still both #1 seeds so what changes

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Hynix

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NAVI aren't making top two for shit

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moatz

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All this just to lose to a NA team at champs 😹😹😹

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W

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hekzy

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NA 😂

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EMEA is a one team region, 4/5 teams in EU are gonna die in groups lmfao.

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SquareMars

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You wanna bet?

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hekzy

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bet on what?

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If emea would beat americas at champs

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hekzy

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You mean who wins the trophy?

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SquareMars

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No, the direct vs. between EMEA teams vs americas teams

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hekzy

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Lmfao loser mentality. 0 trophies region. You can have your meaningless group stage wins, I'm keeping the trophy.

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Archie___

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So is NA.

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SquareMars

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Two teams in the top 4 of masters? What u talkin about

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And then FNC will shit on everyone

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moatz

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1 team region activities 😹😹😹

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whocaresq

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Just like Optic always saved NA ass. Only Tokyo and first Masters ever was good for NA teams. Others Masters and Champs only good for Optic while others NA teams showed dogshit performance. Same with others region(subregion). So stop crying about "1 team region"

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moatz

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Only Tokyo and first Masters

1st at Iceland#1, 2nd at Berlin, 1st at Iceland#1, 3rd at Copenhagen, 2nd at Champions 2022, 2nd at Tokyo

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whocaresq

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And? 1st Iceland was Sentinels and 2and at Tokyo EG. Others was only Envy/Optic. They always saved NA.

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moatz

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It's not like EU is much better lol. They were only good in 2021
They only made top 3 in 1 of the events last yr and this yr they are being carried by Fnatic

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atleast, emea was in top 4 in champs 2022 unlike in champs 2021where there were no NA slugs to be found in top 5 and got stomped on by minor regions

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moatz

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emea may have been top 4 but na was 2nd

also if u wanna go back to 2021, we can also bring up how a team with zombs and shahzam didn't drop a single map to emea or any other region for the entire tourney at iceland

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Er3ngenes1s

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the game was new around that time when sen played at reykjavik. the meta wasnt even evolved at that time. if u r bringing up the discussion of their "dominance" at iceland, then it doesnt matter at all becuz they got shit on the next tourney

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It is getting a bit glaringly obvious that you do not watch recent val esports. For this year grand finals for both Lock-In and Masters Tokyo was a na team against fnc. Also Envy and Optic have long been disbanded. Actually idk about envy but they at least didn't get in franchising.

Also how are you Japanese..? I am half Japanese and despite my US tag I am living in Japan for a while. It's so rare to find a rude idiotic person of our country where almost every1 is polite t-t

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not being rude, but Loud is not NA

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JKaiya

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True, I just auto translated NA to the regional league. I feel like I blanked over it due to another post below I read earlier:

"the same goes for loud and these NA kids arent clowning them? certified brain damaging moment"

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whocaresq

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"For this year grand finals for both Lock-In and Masters Tokyo was a na team against fnc"
Wow, LOUD(Brazil) is NA now?

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JKaiya

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Love how you blanked out and ignored rest of the rest of the message 😮‍💨🙃🫠

Also I autotranslated NA to the Americas league so mb

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EU still Better kekw 5 int win vs 2

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nutab1e

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Here to clown N0VI 😹😹😹

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canyon

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So sad c9 can make all these rosters disband on the spot 😟

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Selfim

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You're like the equivalent of a Chelsea fan in Valorant 💀

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bronzil_enjoyer

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time for karmine corp 💀

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another master fukup incoming and shit you not, their player been saying stuff like we have changed we gonna win it we are the best on stream. its all clout all over again

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Zerphyr1

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kc and koi win ez

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Why is everyone callin Navi bad words and making fun out of them? I understand they came short at Masters, but why people are so angry at them?
I am new here, maybe i just don't understant an inside-joke or something...

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I don’t think many people are angry more so disappointed cause NAVI's potential is so much more than going 0-2 in groups + they troll their roles and run yoru every single game for some reason

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Er3ngenes1s

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the same goes for loud and these NA kids arent clowning them? certified brain damaging moment

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Sunyc

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Loud didn't troll regionals and were the only one of the big three to win their region

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Er3ngenes1s

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so? the same goes for navi too. sure, they did troll their comps at emea league but it's not like they trolled at tokyo. EDG were the uprising underdogs and NAVI just had a bad phase like every other team

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JKaiya

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Although Navi started good, Navi's been in a bad phase for a while, before Tokyo even started, which is why people are complaining or bashing, and is kind of why the discussion started 😮‍💨🙃 🫠

Like other reply Navi is kind of similar to LOUD and DRX rn where they started as the best and then stagnated.

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JKaiya

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I love how your first action is to toxicly spit out something that makes little sense. Please dont insult yourself with the brain damage comment. Perhaps you can go to vct americas lcq instead if you want Americas discussion.

Also LOUD have been doing kinda bad recently, tbh I'm surprised they won their region series before getting to masters. The biggest problem with them is all their old preferred maps such as Pearl and Split are starting to become their worser maps as teams adapt and other teams are changing more to their comp. They are also starting to struggle on Ascent a bit now as their straps are a bit repetitive. Now their worser maps they avoided earlier on are becoming their better maps. It is kind of like DRX situation though I think DRX are doing a bit worser rn.

When I saw them to be out against EG I wasn't surprised they lost. Edg I felt like they would lose too but wasn't as sure.

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Dolphin

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The inside joke is that they are bad 🗿

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gablin

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It’s just that almost everyone is toxic on this site. Since EMEA won last masters a lot of NA fans feel obligated to hate on other EMEA teams

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cobalt21312

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because emea fans were hyping them up as the best team itw just for them to get stomped

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Congo1

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They 3-0 Loud

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cobalt21312

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nah

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JKaiya

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ColdWKey felt like only real reply... so to add on... I agree with what he said. Everyone's expectations were higher on NAVI and fans are disappointed (+typical toxic nolifez having something to bash on).

They started really good and had a good outlook from Lock-In. But then they lost to KOI. And since then, although they've won every game in the series after except for Fnatic, all the games they won tended to be somewhat close. They even went close against the infamous Karmine Corp... then they proceed to barely qualify into masters. To add onto their more recent games, they picked split against Team Liquid who is good on Split (though not the best) and NAVI who have little experience and have a worser record on Split. +2.33 round differential for TL and -2.0 for NAVI. That's a full 4 rounds which is big in round differential stats. But a bigger disappointment might've been losing Ascent against NRG who are not good on it, and same with Fracture against FUT who was also pretty bad on that map, yet they still lost when they were favored by around +3 for both of these matches on the maps.

I personally was not surprised NAVI dropped out of masters in group stages. But I think they will qualify to champions, especially with Vitality dropping out due to twisten's suicide. Though I can see a future of them losing to Giants and not qualifying to the actual championship playoffs like Tokyo Master's situation unless they get an easier bracket such as a lower rank China team (as in not EDG) and LOUD as the championship in their group (Assuming if Champs do also start in group stages as I don't remember). As for not qualifying to Champs, only way I possibly see them losing is to BBL in bottom brackets if they lose to Giants in upper finals. Which will probably be BBL barely winning Ascent and managing to do an upset in deciders which will probably be split or bind.

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Emea isnt winning lcq

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yoboikingkong

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letsgo KC and heretics

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Simp4S0m

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Navi must be shaking right now, they have Koi first game 😭

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KC win this

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melon_fan

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All these teams are gonna bomb out at champs. Fnc and tl are the only eu teams that are good

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klmnh

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bbl ve navi turkler amına koyar ortalıgın

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LouBag

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People are underrating NAVI

It would be a huge upset for them not to make it.

But anything can happen on game day

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FNC/TL = TIER 1
NAVI = TIER 2
GIANTS/BBL = TIER 3
KC/TH/KOI = TIER 4

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And I am assuming fut disbanded?

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oh yeah forgot about FUT, put them in tier 1.5 honestly

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KC tier 5 alone.

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MitiYa

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letsgoo dont throw again NAVI

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0kpl

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Navi we’re trolling so people underestimate them for champs 900 iq

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Kirya

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Easy for na'vi

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Will be rooting for giants and bbl

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KC clears

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azeijrazjerflazeknrfgfv

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quick 0-2 and straight to rebuild new team without toxic and bots players

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EMEAstan

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Free qual for NAVI, then they will dominate in champs

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I see, FUT already qualified champs

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GIANTS 3-0 NAVI

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if navi doesnt fucking win this i have no words

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melon_fan

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When pickems

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DrudaL

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Pacific lcq bracket when

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CarnageBTC

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why is the grand final necessary?

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KrithikHarshith

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for champions seeding

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CarnageBTC

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Thanks for info

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DK_Val

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Okay navi saving strats again💀

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Zeron

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benjyfishy bouta own cnoob fr