Compared to China India is less developed and more poor (meaning less gamers and esports). Though with all of China's government restrictions I felt like China didn't deserve so many spots either, especially with an isolated Val region of esports, but I mean 2 got I'm playoffs so got proved wrong

Love how you blanked out and ignored rest of the rest of the message 😮‍💨🙃🫠

Also I autotranslated NA to the Americas league so mb

True, I just auto translated NA to the regional league. I feel like I blanked over it due to another post below I read earlier:

"the same goes for loud and these NA kids arent clowning them? certified brain damaging moment"

ColdWKey felt like only real reply... so to add on... I agree with what he said. Everyone's expectations were higher on NAVI and fans are disappointed (+typical toxic nolifez having something to bash on).

They started really good and had a good outlook from Lock-In. But then they lost to KOI. And since then, although they've won every game in the series after except for Fnatic, all the games they won tended to be somewhat close. They even went close against the infamous Karmine Corp... then they proceed to barely qualify into masters. To add onto their more recent games, they picked split against Team Liquid who is good on Split (though not the best) and NAVI who have little experience and have a worser record on Split. +2.33 round differential for TL and -2.0 for NAVI. That's a full 4 rounds which is big in round differential stats. But a bigger disappointment might've been losing Ascent against NRG who are not good on it, and same with Fracture against FUT who was also pretty bad on that map, yet they still lost when they were favored by around +3 for both of these matches on the maps.

I personally was not surprised NAVI dropped out of masters in group stages. But I think they will qualify to champions, especially with Vitality dropping out due to twisten's suicide. Though I can see a future of them losing to Giants and not qualifying to the actual championship playoffs like Tokyo Master's situation unless they get an easier bracket such as a lower rank China team (as in not EDG) and LOUD as the championship in their group (Assuming if Champs do also start in group stages as I don't remember). As for not qualifying to Champs, only way I possibly see them losing is to BBL in bottom brackets if they lose to Giants in upper finals. Which will probably be BBL barely winning Ascent and managing to do an upset in deciders which will probably be split or bind.

Although Navi started good, Navi's been in a bad phase for a while, before Tokyo even started, which is why people are complaining or bashing, and is kind of why the discussion started 😮‍💨🙃 🫠

Like other reply Navi is kind of similar to LOUD and DRX rn where they started as the best and then stagnated.

I love how your first action is to toxicly spit out something that makes little sense. Please dont insult yourself with the brain damage comment. Perhaps you can go to vct americas lcq instead if you want Americas discussion.

Also LOUD have been doing kinda bad recently, tbh I'm surprised they won their region series before getting to masters. The biggest problem with them is all their old preferred maps such as Pearl and Split are starting to become their worser maps as teams adapt and other teams are changing more to their comp. They are also starting to struggle on Ascent a bit now as their straps are a bit repetitive. Now their worser maps they avoided earlier on are becoming their better maps. It is kind of like DRX situation though I think DRX are doing a bit worser rn.

When I saw them to be out against EG I wasn't surprised they lost. Edg I felt like they would lose too but wasn't as sure.

It is getting a bit glaringly obvious that you do not watch recent val esports. For this year grand finals for both Lock-In and Masters Tokyo was a na team against fnc. Also Envy and Optic have long been disbanded. Actually idk about envy but they at least didn't get in franchising.

Also how are you Japanese..? I am half Japanese and despite my US tag I am living in Japan for a while. It's so rare to find a rude idiotic person of our country where almost every1 is polite t-t