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SEN Vanity?!

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#1
CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN

I think ppl are overdoing the dephh stuff but this would be an obvious upgrade over dephh, igl, very flexible can probably play sentinel... W? or no.

#2
Granite
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at least better than dephh

#3
KanyeAsada
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I don’t think SEN are gonna make a change yet tbh

#6
CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN
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agree they prob wont but i think it would be a good steal right before season.

#46
zirty_zoggy
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but mark my word they will do after this tourney in april

#4
Luck_
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upgrade but not worth it
dephh is awful but vanity is also dogshit
they need someone else

imo zander bets option
very good mechanically

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CRAZY_CHAINSAW_MAN_FAN
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zander not proven as an igl for a franchise team

#28
rishu004
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ZANDER DOESNT EVEN LIKE IGLING. WHERE DID THIS NOTION THAT ZANDER IS GOOD AT IGLING COME FROM?

#39
wewZ
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v1

#41
rishu004
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yes ik. he said he didnt like igling

#8
G2ShahZaM
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oce moment.

zander isn't even currently igling

#16
Luck_
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braindead
anyway who cars anything is better than fraud dephh
he did a good job in igl anyway

#54
clocksky888
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The primary concern right now is why some users on here attack all former XSET members, that play for SEN, with their pathetic emotional fraustration over SEN's generally poor performance and ofc, over Sick's antics? Why does it have to be that just ex-XSET members get the pounding, but TenZ, Pancada, and Sacy are never mentioned?

Tell me, why the fuck you pick on certain players, while leaving out others? Do you and others like you have some kind of AGENDA or wtf?

Just to open your cute little eyes on the problem, nobody from SEN's team was able to get past fourth place on the scoring board across both maps in the matchup against winning the tourney team - FNC. Would that be enough of a finding to alarm some of the most inquisitive minds of VLR, who are still to this day, continue to bash former XSET members while also being totally absorbed into Sick's annals? Nevertheless, no one is concerned because it is obvously all XSET's fault - their fraudulent goal, at the end of the day, no?... and who else could fail SEN's already non exsistent system but former XSET members - trust me bro it's all their fault, they say.

P.S. What? You still can't read? ---> GTFO, then!

You guys sound IMMATURELY PATHETIC in your judgments, yet you're not even ashamed of it, maybe thinking - "Oh, not a big deal, as we will get somebody else as a replacement." Well, SQUAT - not going to happen this way... you will not find any better than that, surely not at the time of the active deal between XSET and SEN. There were some prospects but with all due respect, they were less experienced in NA's top tier.

#58
Monspeet
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Holy fuck what are you on bro?

#61
clocksky888
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Mind me asking you... How old are you and how long have you spent dicsussing issues on forums?

It ain't TWATTER or shmock-TOK on here ;)

#63
clocksky888
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Inb4: Those were legit questions in #62 - no troll (though, disregard the tone, if any)

#64
Monspeet
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was about to ignore since I see a person not right in the head from the replies u made back to me and Luck, but after u've noticed I'm not replying u ended up making another reply for no reason, which in turn makes you sound IMMATURELY PATHETIC
chill bro, I just laughed at the way u talk, if u found it insulting and want to hear an apology, I apologize, it was in the heat of the moment I thought it was funny.
Now go back to your senseless bickering on this forum and enjoy your life to the fullest on here.
Also to the questions if u must know I'm 23 and I didn't discuss much at all, I mostly troll or talk about the players I like which is very rarely since I don't live on this forum...
stop bro xd wont answer back whatever u say anyway, I just wanted to point out that ur contradicting yourself by you being the one that's immature judging by your replies

#68
ItsHunter
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why did you even reply

#71
clocksky888
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NVM, he enjoys the reality SLAP ... He's got my attention!

#77
clocksky888
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Ohh I see, another "bright" kid on the block. Alright, let's see what you're on about.... Mind you, I'll nicely break it to you down below ;)

You: Holy fuck what are you on bro?

First things first:

  1. Avoid passing judgement on someone based only on your emotional reactions to one of their postings, especially if you were not the topic of the conversation <-- can help reduce the number of heated discussions between you and others.
  2. Inappropriate questions such as "what is someone on about," when a fully stated narrative on the subject at hand - in question format - is offered just right above your long nose in the thread <-- seen as obvious delusion and inattentiveness --> Urgent IQ check - might be very contagious!
You: Was about to ignore since I see a person not right in the head from the replies u made back to me and Luck, but after u've noticed I'm not replying u ended up making another reply for no reason, which in turn makes you sound IMMATURELY PATHETIC.

FFS, cut the fluff off and reserve some time for your boyfriend @Luck, as you two appear to be one cute/little couple of twatting birds in the thick of breeding season. Who am I to stand in the middle of you two and your reproductive urges - get a room you two, clowns... And yes, don't forget to wear protection, lest one of you will leave behind another generation of "delicately" twatting of braindeads like you two - no es justo y bueno para las próximas generaciones!

You: Chill bro, I just laughed at the way u talk, if u found it insulting and want to hear an apology, I apologize, it was in the heat of the moment I thought it was funny.

Oh finally, we have arrived here! I thought I would miss that part from you. But it was rather nice to hear that you have started mirin me, already - out of nowhere like that - too easy, kid? Well, then congrats, congrats, you've finally reached "the acceptance" line and now, I'm just dealing with personally owned little bish - you ... keep mirin twattiko, you're doing really great, so far!

You: Now go back to your senseless bickering on this forum and enjoy your life to the fullest on here.

Don't know about you, but I am thouroughly enjoying my life to the fullest here, owning your pathetic little ass like it's some kind of walk in the park.

Hold strong there twattico, I am almost done with you ;)

You: Also to the questions if u must know I'm 23 and I didn't discuss much at all, I mostly troll or talk about the players I like which is very rarely since I don't live on this forum...

Well, let me asssure you then, that for sure, ONE thing from our interaction that will remain strongly living in your own peanut like brain will be ME - all in a rent free of charge, spacious and dead-empty brain of yours... baby please... I apreciate your efforts - it is very kind of you, actually.

You: stop bro xd wont answer back whatever u say anyway, I just wanted to point out that ur contradicting yourself by you being the one that's immature judging by your replies

Oh, and nearly forgot... Don't be concerned about it at all, little twatter. Continue sucking since it will assist with your copping hardships goals. Our first encounter has actually been great, and I hope you liked your new experience which is being owned by me. On here, there were/will be many of weak-willed twatter birds just like you and your bf - @Luck, who would typically come down from their extremely high shelves to entertain the masses, on some rare occasions - during their mating season, but all the'd gotten had been just another portion of some hard SLAPPING reality to continue with copping path.

Adios, pair of twatticoS - @Moonspeet and @Luck - there will be no luck, if no suck -->>

Then, KEEP SUCKING - kids!
Owned 😶‍🌫️

#81
Monspeet
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD JESUS CHRIST BRO, I MEAN I SAW UR PAST COMMENTS ON PEOPLE I NOTICED U LIKE ARGUING BUT HOLY SHIT BRO, it took u some time to make that I see so I read that novel of yours over nothing, problem is that after I carefully read ur message, tried to understand it, assessed it, I just noticed a kid on a temper tantrum, there's nothing factual in that novel u sent me, I wanted to answer it but ur literally talking out of your ass like we're on the street arguing over me touching you accidently, I will answer the first things first part which I agree on, I don't have any right same as you considering you literally said
"You guys sound IMMATURELY PATHETIC in your judgments, yet you're not even ashamed of it"
Judging people being immature based on their opinions, something that requires an emotional man to say, especially in that disgusting manner.
On my part I didn't really judge you I just thought it was a funny message to say at the moment, I already apologized if it meant that deeply to u, but considering u again contradict yourself by posting your own thing that you think is funny to Luck, it is not surprising me anymore, do something else bro xd u gonn lose ur brain if u gonna argue with everyone every time on this forum... tho this srsly my last msg, u can take ur time if u wanna answer back but this time aint readin allat, u can write it tho and waste some time and I aint stoppin u but I need to say am not gonn read allat XDD

#59
Luck_
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not reading allat
but i am targetting dephh because he is clearly dogshit
zekken is insane
and the other 3 are pulling their weight
cope LOLLLLLLL

#62
clocksky888
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Then... G. T. F. O! - no LUCK but a huge SUCK for you today!

#65
Luck_
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The primary concern right now is why some users on here attack all former XSET members, that play for SEN, with their pathetic emotional fraustration over SEN's generally poor performance and ofc, over Sick's antics? Why does it have to be that just ex-XSET members get the pounding, but TenZ, Pancada, and Sacy are never mentioned?

Tell me, why the fuck you pick on certain players, while leaving out others? Do you and others like you have some kind of AGENDA or wtf?
Just to open your cute little eyes on the problem, nobody from SEN's team was able to get past fourth place on the scoring board across both maps in the matchup against winning the tourney team - FNC. Would that be enough of a finding to alarm some of the most inquisitive minds of VLR, who are still to this day, continue to bash former XSET members while also being totally absorbed into Sick's annals? Nevertheless, no one is concerned because it is obvously all XSET's fault - their fraudulent goal, at the end of the day, no?... and who else could fail SEN's already non exsistent system but former XSET members - trust me bro it's all their fault, they say.

P.S. What? You still can't read? ---> GTFO, then!

You guys sound IMMATURELY PATHETIC in your judgments, yet you're not even ashamed of it, maybe thinking - "Oh, not a big deal, as we will get somebody else as a replacement." Well, SQUAT - not going to happen this way... you will not find any better than that, surely not at the time of the active deal between XSET and SEN. There were some prospects but with all due respect, they were less experienced in NA's top tier.

#78
clocksky888
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Your primary concern right now is #78

Back to my pocket, kid!

#67
ItsHunter
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i agree with a lot of things you have to say but youre really making it seem like depph and zekken didnt play rlly poorly. They did, its a fact; dont try to change that just because you like them or you think its unfair that theyre receiving this hate.
Just tell people not to hold grudges and move on. Everyone has a bad day here and there

#76
clocksky888
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Didn't mean to build walls in the thread... sorry for that.

To be entirely honest, I'm not convinced Dephh and Zekken played poorly. Maybe Zekken, yeah, but that was a problem across their entire team setup, and it also occured throughout their first series of the only two matches they have played - versus the eventual tournament winner, Fnatic. Anluchko! They couldn't do much against them, or perhaps were there other concerns that yet to be addressed? One thing for sure is that FNC looked outstanding throughout whole of the tournament. You might have already seen some of the posts in the "FUN FACTS ABOUT DEPHH," where some interesting points on the topic were being brought up to support the above uncertainty on Zekken/Dephh seeming "underperformance." https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh

To say something against common assumption, like many others on this forum, I am not a fan of SEN, let alone their fanboy... And I continue to make a decent effort to appreciate all teams equally, despite the fact that I actually do share a country of residence with Dephh and DrewSpark, wich also doesn't automatically make me(or people in similar stuations) to become their supporters or teams/orgs/players that have similar connections.
Yet, on the other hand, I agree with the general tendency that it is somewhat likely that some may appear to support more their common contries of residence and the orgs than not, which may even lead such supporters to blindly accept all bs from their teams - biassed approach. In general, we can still draw a valid line here on reasons of supporting teams/players/orgs, and I still believe that there are many on here who follow the same approach as I do.... saying otherwise would simply put us in the danger of generalising all circumstances based on such evidences.

Having said that, I'm just someone who is attempting to express their own opinions, hoping to be responded with some decent amount of supported data to move forward - on here. The ideas that are not supported are also welcomed, but preferably not some type of barking throws of replies that are typically being thrown at you with some unclear accustions. Such blind accusations would typicall come from every possible corners followed with some unnecessary chase/hate in trying to put down each other, which is the type of bs discussion I'm having right now with @Monspeet and @Luck**

But a normal discussion like I am having with you right now is much more preferable as can still remain serious in providing my best and trying to maintain a healthy course of such conversation for several threads or just a couple of replies with some possibly interesting outcomes. Regarding, bs dicussions type of replies apear nothing other than my free time during breaks between some of the projects I am currenty working on during the day etc.

P.S. I'm working on some data that could possibe shed a light to some of the questions directed towards SEN's current situation... it's nothing groundreaking, just data handling thing ... hope I'll get it done soon <3

#80
zex777
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Who is igl tho

#11
noxx
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zander was forced to switch his IGL role when he was in v1 because of his bad igling, just coz an igl can shoot doesnt mean hes a good igl

#56
symbols07
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zander already left igling. and dont go into wanting both a good mechanical player and a good igl. dephh was shit at both and hence critisized. but now even if the igl is just good at igling that's moer than enough

#57
symbols07
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h

#60
zardinez
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Valyn

#66
ItsHunter
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zander isnt that good either tho, he just has high fragging and great cheese setups and plays. People overrate him so much for a few decent games its crazy.
I loved V1 when they cameback cause they looked rlly good but if it wasnt consistent then clearly they werent that good because of zander himself. I assume immi also didnt have much to do with it cause G2 dont look like thye play the style that V1 did. It was prob just honeymoon

#69
Luck_
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no
he has good aim and he clears dephh my miles

#73
Danny
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How are you calling vanity dogshit then requesting Zander…

Compare V1 with Zander to V1 with Vanity LMAO

it’s already been proven who’s better

#75
Luck_
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Because Zander knows that left click = shoot

#79
Danny
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Yeah bro Sen’s issues are definitely fixed by firepower…

#5
Ullyr
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sen vanity and sen yay? ...

#12
noxx
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sen marved is currently being discussed and if they get marved as their sub then theres no way they have enough funds to get yay or vanity and i dont even think they want to do a roster change unless tenz wants to step back but even then i doubt thy would get yay

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cboomer
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marved can IGL and play sentinel, its just a matter of if he wants to. Marved IGLed a pretty decent faze team when he was on it and played with FNS his mid rounding should suffice for the level of talent If they drop dephh.

#38
noxx
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doubt marved wants to IGL and idt sykko will let dephh to be dropped this early on, its a mixed roster they are gonna need more time together

#9
grenji
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Dephh got 5th at champs upsetting Fnatic and FPX
the most value vanity brings to an org is the 5 hours he streams a month

the dephh hate circlejerk has gone too far use ur brain

#17
CorpsePartyyy
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Half of that credit goes to Ayrin tho

#18
cboomer
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Ayrin co-igl and Dephh got 2 good calls against boaster in 2 maps. Thats just unacceptable as an IGL of a team that wants to win championships. Terrible

#74
Simon_Digger
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Dude, u can't be saying that after FNATIC literally won the whole thing now

#10
Perma
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Vanity and deph both ass

#13
michaelisupset
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the dephh hate is so weird. did you forget how successful xset were

#19
loseralex
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“successful” they got 5th place in one tournament and that’s it. they haven’t done anything besides that.

#20
IusedToBeAgirl
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and has vanity done anything either?? lmao

#37
loseralex
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i didn’t say anything about vanity?

#47
IusedToBeAgirl
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U right but my point still stands

#50
BoF7ooM
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Lol they shit on every team in NA. Other than fluke guard, XSET was considered the 2nd best after NV (after OG SEN and 100T imploded). As good as NA achievements could've gotten that year.

#14
Chow1E
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they might be replace for sick rn, so its not gonna happened

#21
ZANEy
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vlr might be the most dumbest place ever who replaces the igl after one tournament? c9 is dum not sen tho

#22
Skywarp
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sen once decided it would be a good idea to play a tournament with shroud, it doesnt get any dumber than that

#25
ZANEy
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still they almost beat 100t and the gaurd
you guys think someone cant have a one bad match and blame everything on dephh

#30
rishu004
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that further proves his point. they got close with shroud dragging them down. imagine if they went with a good controller like skuba or something.

#35
ZANEy
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thats true but now they are in franchising they already build a new roster i dont think they will take stupid decisions

#52
Pengu12
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They prolly beat those teams without shroud

#23
no1haterbutloveyou2
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-TenZ +yay
thats it

#26
ZANEy
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he wont fit sen want a player who can play flex

#24
GooberBoy
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dephh became the most hated person after one game this site is crazy

#27
ZANEy
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yeah like they didnt give him even a chance

#42
soraol
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agree

#29
dexter000111
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Nahhh lmaooo people are hating on dephh so hard over losing a BO3 against FNC who btw won out the tournament eventually 😂😂😂

#31
rishu004
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imo most of the hate comes from his wife calling out random players for no reason which is weird

#32
GooberBoy
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Wow his wife called out the player who behind the scenes ended up being psycho, lets blame it on his IGLing against the best time ITW

#34
rishu004
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im not talking about talking sick specifically. she even called out dapr for no apparent reason.

#40
noxx
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ah yes someone is acting out and is clearly in mental agony but instead of talking to his family or friends lets just call him out on twitter and join hands with his ex and continously talk trash about him! such a nice thing to do as a fellow human being

#51
BoF7ooM
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This lmaoo. NA also hates him because he id british, dont forget about it. If sacy and pancada were anything other than world champs from last year, they would've asked sacy to be dropped as well.

#33
shockyyyy
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I actually feel really bad for Zellsis. It feels like he went to C9 over SEN because of his past teams with Vanity and the signing of yay which in theory would make a NA powerhouse. Then C9 are like, nope both are gone and you are stuck with us. I think if Zellsis could see the future, he would join SEN (this is all hindsight btw)

#53
Pengu12
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Idk, Zellsis fits right into c9

#83
shockyyyy
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Yeah but in stream he said that he chose C9 over SEN was because they had the best chance to win and he would get to reunite with Vanity. Now he isn’t with Vanity anymore and yay which made that team a powerhouse is gone

#85
Pengu12
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Ik, I’m saying Zellsis ain’t much better than his teammates and zekken >>>

#36
titanwithpp
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Kick dephh and sign yay as IGL ez fix for SEN

#43
pewpew
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anyone better than dephh...

#44
legalalien
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i think Sacy gonna be good as IGL

#87
iooeaa
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he isn't an igl tho, idk people keep pushing this igl shit to him

#45
koromast
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only reason i´ll accept a change for dephh its if hazed joins sentinels, otherwise let the man work at the end of the day they lost against the champions

#82
GooberBoy
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What has hazed done that is better than Dephh? Literally any strength you could say Hazed has Dephh has proven to be better at.

#48
juho
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dephh has synergy with the coach and zekken on the team so I doubt they will replace him and that too so soon

#49
empty0307
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fym better than dephh? both can't aim for shit and can't make proper adjustments midgame but at least dephh already has an established chemistry with the coaches and players.

#55
symbols07
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could've easily happened if the coaching staff wasnt ex xset

#70
kanyeast
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trash vs garbage

#72
ReBarboZa
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The dephh hate really has gone too far. Vanity is absolut dogshit. I can't comprehend why ppl think he is good. He couldn't accomplish anything on valorant, didn't win shit. The highlights of his carrer in CS is cheating in tier 2.

I don't really care for SEN, but I'm sure this would NOT be an upgrade.

#84
Rosario
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vanity is not an upgrade over dephh at best a sidegrade maybe even a downgrade bc he doesn't have the working chemistry that dephh and sykko got over at xset no point.

#86
yungbasel
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Agreed. People are only looking at the fragging aspect. C9 under vanity have consistently achieved less than xset and suddenly vanity is an upgrade? Madness

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