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Plat chat TIER LIST for VCT 2023

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#1
Matrix13e

https://imgur.com/a/oCvnDKt

#2
Warlordwibz
8
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They need to swap Zeta and T1

#3
capital_d_colon
5
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Warlordwibz [#2]

They need to swap Zeta and T1

you dont even know t1's 5th is

#4
capital_d_colon
9
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Liquid below koi is interesting....

#5
Warlordwibz
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capital_d_colon [#3]

you dont even know t1's 5th is

4 of the current player aim strength is on the level of PRX and DRX tho.

#6
number1_MIBR_hater
19
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can't wait for shitnatic to be destroyed by everyone

#7
patuj
13
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Liquid and Vitality too low

#8
PurpleHyacinth
11
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Zeta's too high IMO

#9
firefirefirefire
18
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fnatic S KKKKKKKKKK, also c9 so overated

#10
Strafe7
3
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Talon too low

#11
Warlordwibz
0
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firefirefirefire [#9]

fnatic S KKKKKKKKKK, also c9 so overated

C9 without Yay would be low A at best.

#12
Warlordwibz
13
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Strafe7 [#10]

Talon too low

Talon Low B was in consideration of Patiphan injury

#13
Pikmin
10
Frags
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Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though

#14
thiagomds
7
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C9 better than loud? hahahaha

#15
nutab1e
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Pikmin [#13]

Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though

it's literally the REJECT core + a jett streamer and a player that had one good run in 2021, they'll be lucky not to get turned away at the airport on their way to brazil

#16
Flyjin
7
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holy fuck these guys are so delusional putting DNG so low

#17
horse69
0
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DNG is better than that

#18
Wronghand
-5
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I don't care about the tier list, the first Lan final will be C9 vs Navi. DRX and Fnatic always throw once we believe in them.

#19
emraaa
3
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Vitality roster is insane, no? Why are they so low?

#20
314sto
13
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Giants on the same tier than LOUD, NRG, Liquid, PRX and Leviatan is, to say the least, optimistic.

#21
Revlo
1
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Lnatic will never be the best in the world with boaster on the team.

#22
ColdWKey
8
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Congrats to RRQ on winning the kick off tournament and being the best team in 2023

#23
h0sS
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Warlordwibz [#11]

C9 without Yay would be low A at best.

Good thing they have yay then huh?

#24
charizard_123
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emraaa [#19]

Vitality roster is insane, no? Why are they so low?

I dont think they even knew who molsi was tbh

#25
ColdWKey
0
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emraaa [#19]

Vitality roster is insane, no? Why are they so low?

Nah they’re B tier at best

#26
seankuku
1
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liquid not S :o

#27
Rabbiit
6
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Plat chat for a reason of course

#28
Moi6969
4
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DNG ON THE TOP BABY #️⃣1️⃣

#29
Brain_Needle482
0
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thiagomds [#14]

C9 better than loud? hahahaha

Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil

#30
Brain_Needle482
0
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emraaa [#19]

Vitality roster is insane, no? Why are they so low?

Imo they are all good players except we don't know how good they are as a team

#31
Brain_Needle482
1
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Revlo [#21]

Lnatic will never be the best in the world with boaster on the team.

Now that's some cope

#32
symbols07
16
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capital_d_colon [#4]

Liquid below koi is interesting....

they didnt even consider liquid enough. they didnt think once that redgar is probably the best eu igl and nats the best player in the world. add to this sayf and jamppi as two solid flexible fraggers, they are easily comparable to loud

#33
symbols07
3
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Warlordwibz [#11]

C9 without Yay would be low A at best.

nah c9 without yay would be B. it would then have become a team with essentially players who achieved nothing in 2022, so they wouldnt have been anywehre near a

#34
symbols07
7
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charizard_123 [#24]

I dont think they even knew who molsi was tbh

they didnt know who molsi was. didnt know how good cender was. and almost didnt read bonecold's name, as if he didnt win champs last year and dominated t2 this year

#35
thiagomds
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Brain_Needle482 [#29]

Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil

they have even more firepower than last champions. C9 didn't win anything...

#36
hiddenplace
11
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thiagomds [#14]

C9 better than loud? hahahaha

people seem to forget that Loud still has three of the best players in the world as their core, and the new additions are two cracked young players. They won't be as good as the older roster at first but the ceiling is very high.

#37
LuffyVlr
5
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Hot take: C9 will flop and even Yay won't carry them into internationals.

#38
DNRIIS
10
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Leviatan tier S

#39
Brain_Needle482
0
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hiddenplace [#36]

people seem to forget that Loud still has three of the best players in the world as their core, and the new additions are two cracked young players. They won't be as good as the older roster at first but the ceiling is very high.

The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo

#40
brdreamer
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Brain_Needle482 [#29]

Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil

To your surprise, they might be even better...

#41
brdreamer
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Brain_Needle482 [#39]

The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo

They have until 2023 Champions, I'm good with the odds.

#42
ninz
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314sto [#20]

Giants on the same tier than LOUD, NRG, Liquid, PRX and Leviatan is, to say the least, optimistic.

its delusional

#43
brobeans
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thiagomds [#35]

they have even more firepower than last champions. C9 didn't win anything...

why are u looking at the org instead of the roster?

#44
thiagomds
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brobeans [#43]

why are u looking at the org instead of the roster?

I am looking the roster, but you have to consider the structure. Loud kept the IGL and bring more staff.

#45
DELUSIONAL_BRYCE_FAN
10
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dng on bottom lmao

can’t wait for xnfri to prove these shitters wrong

#46
duc
5
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This list is so wrong

#47
avepalto
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DNRIIS [#38]

Leviatan tier S

hard agree. better than 100t, koi and even prx

#48
Flyjin
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Pikmin [#13]

Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though

no, its platchat being trashchat without sideshow

#49
annoybrocc02
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idk what they are on but tl are definitely s tier imo

#50
annoybrocc02
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DNRIIS [#38]

Leviatan tier S

especially with the addition of keznit, leviatan look scary

#51
firefirefirefire
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Warlordwibz [#11]

C9 without Yay would be low A at best.

Lower than that

#52
Tosspoa
6
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Leviatan is being underrated af, they can actually be the best team in the world. Fntic still have Boaster, they are not S tier.

#53
ritiknayak
-3
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Bruh this GE roster deserves atleast B

#54
Brain_Needle482
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duc [#46]

This list is so wrong

I mean it's a too early tier list, so it is to be expected.

#55
brobeans
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thiagomds [#44]

I am looking the roster, but you have to consider the structure. Loud kept the IGL and bring more staff.

but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct

#56
no1haterbutloveyou2
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Warlordwibz [#5]

4 of the current player aim strength is on the level of PRX and DRX tho.

cap, only sayaplayer and munchkin is

#57
Sh1rpie
-6
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symbols07 [#32]

they didnt even consider liquid enough. they didnt think once that redgar is probably the best eu igl and nats the best player in the world. add to this sayf and jamppi as two solid flexible fraggers, they are easily comparable to loud

nats the best player in the world.

I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.

tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players

#58
thiagomds
-2
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brobeans [#55]

but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct

They still have Xeppa and Vanity and I don't think they are top tier.

#59
solsolid
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PurpleHyacinth [#8]

Zeta's too high IMO

i dunno, they can beat PRX before with that roster

#60
solsolid
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ritiknayak [#53]

Bruh this GE roster deserves atleast B

they're still confused wth they gonna do with 10 man roster

#61
M0K1
5
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brobeans [#55]

but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct

Insert International performance

#62
M0K1
6
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Brain_Needle482 [#54]

I mean it's a too early tier list, so it is to be expected.

it's wrong even for a early list

#63
LathesRule
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Sh1rpie [#57]

nats the best player in the world.

I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.

tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players

Yay exists so no. Nats is really damn good tho.

#64
brobeans
0
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M0K1 [#61]

Insert International performance

winning NA vct is a better achievement than like 80+% of the franchised teams

#65
thatpower
6
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no1haterbutloveyou2 [#56]

cap, only sayaplayer and munchkin is

xeta and ban could easily compete lol

#66
symbols07
6
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Sh1rpie [#57]

nats the best player in the world.

I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.

tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players

your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say

#67
benmaimoon
0
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kcorp b tier LMAO

#68
kbkdark
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Brain_Needle482 [#39]

The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo

Well... Less was considered s-tier player since Iceland (His first international LAN), due to his performance and significance to LOUD reach 2nd in Reykjavík

#69
kbkdark
0
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ColdWKey [#22]

Congrats to RRQ on winning the kick off tournament and being the best team in 2023

winning kick-off tounament's last place and beingthe best team on losing every match in 2023

#70
ColdWKey
0
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kbkdark [#69]

winning kick-off tounament's last place and beingthe best team on losing every match in 2023

It’s the platchat curse lol everything they say the opposite happens

#71
ExddziN
2
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Fnatic S lmao

#72
D3ltAgg
-2
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+

keep sleeping on GE

#73
Skuul13
-1
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brobeans [#64]

winning NA vct is a better achievement than like 80+% of the franchised teams

c9 core is shit at international lvl

#74
Jaox-101
1
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RRQ have a monster addition on Lmemore & Tehbotol and they put in below TS, i think it's becouse the "org"

#75
Strafe7
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symbols07 [#66]

your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say

Crazy how you forgot that Yay was still El Diablo and a top 3 player before chamber was even released.

#76
Strafe7
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Pikmin [#13]

Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though

Suggest, Seoldam, and Xnfri give me a lot of hope but the other players are kinda terrible. I would rate them higher but this low placing isnt unjustified.

#77
Strafe7
0
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Skuul13 [#73]

c9 core is shit at international lvl

literal best performing team from NA at champs 2021

#78
Sh1rpie
-1
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symbols07 [#66]

your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say

nAts doesnt win games on his own

doesnt play chamber except for a game or 2 at most during vct (he played it on LCQ and dominated, idk why they put Lhronicle on chamber instead of nats), never gets first bloods or impact frags and his signature lurk style got buttfucked by the introduction of chamber and people getting used to how people like nats play. He's still mega clutch, but I dont think he can carry a game on smokes like Yay can carry a game on jett/chamber.

#79
symbols07
1
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Strafe7 [#75]

Crazy how you forgot that Yay was still El Diablo and a top 3 player before chamber was even released.

crazy how you forget nats was right there ahead of yay when that was happening. he was right there competing against people playing an overpowered jett, using the easiest gun in the game and having the biggest shot at scoring those high frags. nats still came out on top against those players. no disrespect to diablo though, that guy is undoubtedly the 2nd best itw.

#80
Shanvel
0
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People yapping shit here are extremely affected by recency bias.. think about each and every player in the team and how it'll affect the synergy and shit.. come on I think except for Liquid and GE rest all are on point.

#81
Strafe7
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Shanvel [#80]

People yapping shit here are extremely affected by recency bias.. think about each and every player in the team and how it'll affect the synergy and shit.. come on I think except for Liquid and GE rest all are on point.

It's fairly good considering that you don't actually know whats gonna happen with any of these teams. These teams are going to be practicing for months and the meta is going to change too probably. The list isn't going to reflect what actually happens since its so early which they recognize in the title of the podcast saying its too early.

#82
SilentNight
0
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Navi above DRX?

#83
JiangLi
3
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+

Navi in S with DRX ? Ardiis isnt joining right ?
This tier list so bad

#84
Strafe7
0
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SilentNight [#82]

Navi above DRX?

I'm not crazy for thinking DRX should be at the very top right?

#85
Tyzehhxo
0
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EG in B tier is abit of a joke. I know its suuper early to even do these tier lists, but if the EG roster is what it's beleived I think they belong more inline with C-tier.

#86
Brain_Needle482
0
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M0K1 [#62]

it's wrong even for a early list

I don't think so

#87
JsT_
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Tyzehhxo [#85]

EG in B tier is abit of a joke. I know its suuper early to even do these tier lists, but if the EG roster is what it's beleived I think they belong more inline with C-tier.

they are NA biased so its expected

#88
zardinez
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Flyjin [#48]

no, its platchat being trashchat without sideshow

Can't blame him for being gone from the ep tho, he's dealing with a lot. Wish him the best.

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