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https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1579898246679629824?s=20&t=cW3Qd74eQWEGxnNNedv2Vg jake reposted LUL
riot when someone associated themselves with a misogynist: 😡😡😡
riot when a person within their company is an offender: 😀😁🫣
Riot L.
No one should be banned for following concepts of a religion(Muslim, Jew, and Christianity, these three kinda mixed) Tate has never forced anyone to follow what he says, Want to get into a relationship with him? He has rules and red flags, that's his opinion. It's your fucking decision to decide if you want to or not.
I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
All things he said applies to HIS WORLD, HIS LIFE.
I think people shouldn't be offended by a generalization at all, anyways just my opinion.
Feel free to judge me.
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#11]Riot L.
No one should be banned for following concepts of a religion(Muslim, Jew, and Christianity, these three kinda mixed) Tate has never forced anyone to follow what he says, Want to get into a relationship with him? He has rules and red flags, that's his opinion. It's your fucking decision to decide if you want to or not.
I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
All things he said applies to HIS WORLD, HIS LIFE.
I think people shouldn't be offended by a generalization at all, anyways just my opinion.
Feel free to judge me.
Terrible take
Adam_Sandler [#3]Who do you think created cancel culture?
adam sandler deserves to be canceled for making pixels
charizard_123 [#13]adam sandler deserves to be canceled for making pixels
Ok, what about Uncut Gems and Hustle ? Dude is making some solid movies lately
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#11]Riot L.
No one should be banned for following concepts of a religion(Muslim, Jew, and Christianity, these three kinda mixed) Tate has never forced anyone to follow what he says, Want to get into a relationship with him? He has rules and red flags, that's his opinion. It's your fucking decision to decide if you want to or not.
I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
All things he said applies to HIS WORLD, HIS LIFE.
I think people shouldn't be offended by a generalization at all, anyways just my opinion.
Feel free to judge me.
I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
explains your lack of a brain lmfao
nutab1e [#16]I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
explains your lack of a brain lmfao
i have seen boyfriend get tied up 😔😔
Adam_Sandler [#14]Ok, what about Uncut Gems and Hustle ? Dude is making some solid movies lately
he deserves to be uncanceled for hustle and uncut gems
IusedToBeAgirl [#12]Terrible take
That's what I think, terrible or not.
I don't think we should give the government power over free spech to ban people or something else even when it comes to bad stuff or fake news, because the government shouldn't have that power since we all know almost every government is most likely to be corrupt and going to judge something bad as long it as it's against their intentions.
State is supposed to mean "all people", but most government follows only their establishment, we all know that.
Again, just my opinion I'm not correct or anything, not even sure if there's a "correct" take about these stuffs there's both sides.
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#23]That's what I think, terrible or not.
I don't think we should give the government power over free spech to ban people or something else even when it comes to bad stuff or fake news, because the government shouldn't have that power since we all know almost every government is most likely to be corrupt and going to judge something bad as long it as it's against their intentions.
State is supposed to mean "all people", but most government follows only their establishment, we all know that.
Again, just my opinion I'm not correct or anything, not even sure if there's a "correct" take about these stuffs there's both sides.
It’s not even political riot had to ban him anyway regardless of what they think is right they have Game changers like what do you think the women in that scene is gonna say if Carlos didn’t get punished let’s be real
nutab1e [#16]I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
explains your lack of a brain lmfao
probably.
:(
h9zard [#4]literally makes no difference anyways
There is a huge difference between a gaming platform deciding who you get to hang out with vs. an organizer. A gaming platform should be as lenient as possible to the entire player base while an organization can, understandably, be more picky.
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#23]That's what I think, terrible or not.
I don't think we should give the government power over free spech to ban people or something else even when it comes to bad stuff or fake news, because the government shouldn't have that power since we all know almost every government is most likely to be corrupt and going to judge something bad as long it as it's against their intentions.
State is supposed to mean "all people", but most government follows only their establishment, we all know that.
Again, just my opinion I'm not correct or anything, not even sure if there's a "correct" take about these stuffs there's both sides.
Whats wrong with someone controlling you? Individual humans are weak and everyone seeks someone who is more powerful to control them
IusedToBeAgirl [#25]It’s not even political riot had to ban him anyway regardless of what they think is right they have Game changers like what do you think the women in that scene is gonna say if Carlos didn’t get punished let’s be real
As I said, there's no correct thing
Punishing him is also big L.
Not punishing him too a big L.
Just that.
azraelmdfk [#20]fuck is this bro, in GameChangers some team had a coach that commited sexual harrasment to his team, the org dropped the team EXCEPT the coach but they do this kinda shit to Carlos? Andrew Tate is a piece of shit, but the actions of riot are weird
true bro, it is kinda L on suspending people just because they have interacted with someone
ptrlol [#27]There is a huge difference between a gaming platform deciding who you get to hang out with vs. an organizer. A gaming platform should be as lenient as possible to the entire player base while an organization can, understandably, be more picky.
LEC is an organizer and not Riot, so your statement is kinda right since the ruling is by LEC and not Riot.
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#11]Riot L.
No one should be banned for following concepts of a religion(Muslim, Jew, and Christianity, these three kinda mixed) Tate has never forced anyone to follow what he says, Want to get into a relationship with him? He has rules and red flags, that's his opinion. It's your fucking decision to decide if you want to or not.
I've seen some e-dating doing worse things or same thing as he did, I've seen e-dates that didn't even let their girlfriend or boyfriend talk to anyone else and still judging him lol.
All things he said applies to HIS WORLD, HIS LIFE.
I think people shouldn't be offended by a generalization at all, anyways just my opinion.
Feel free to judge me.
"the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against their will, is to prevent harm to others"
thats the limit of free speech
if u have a dude like tate talking openly about his views which are extremely harmful to women, i think its fair to not let him spread these harmful ideas.
ilovefrozenblueberries [#28]Whats wrong with someone controlling you? Individual humans are weak and everyone seeks someone who is more powerful to control them
I never said It's wrong or correct, just, you should be aware of what you're doing following someone or not, just be aware of path you're taking.
If you make a decision and want to follow it, just do it. As long It's by yourself. No obligation.
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#34]I never said It's wrong or correct, just, you should be aware of what you're doing following someone or not, just be aware of path you're taking.
If you make a decision and want to follow it, just do it. As long It's by yourself. No obligation.
Eventually freedom will need to be destroyed for the only true freedom lies within death
patuj [#31]He is out of G2 already so 1 month shouldn't change anything. But L from Riot IMO. I think this whole situation is way overblown. What he did wasn't that bad and he already got harsh consequences from it. But Riot has to do this for pr reasons.
Exactly like they have a whole GC thing running
alice_ [#33]"the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against their will, is to prevent harm to others"
thats the limit of free speech
if u have a dude like tate talking openly about his views which are extremely harmful to women, i think its fair to not let him spread these harmful ideas.
Alice, I'm not saying Tate is BAD or GOOD here.
I'm saying that giving power to judge something as fake news or bad stuff ends up opening this power to be misused (to judge something as bad or fake), and as we know..it will happen.
That's my worries.
Just I said before, punishing him big L
not punishing big L too
alice_ [#39]u wouldnt say the same if andrew was racist (which he probably is). all of tate's comments and views about women are inherently misogynistic, theres no opinion about this. it IS harmful, like any other kind of discrimination.
I mean, just see how "misused" riot power over this can be used to, Ocelote got fucked just to party with him (not even supporting his ideas)
The problem is that this opens up the power to be misused and we know it will be.
I'm not even defending Tate or Ocelote too.
That's the only worries.
Still, Riot can decide whatever they want.
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#38]Alice, I'm not saying Tate is BAD or GOOD here.
I'm saying that giving power to judge something as fake news or bad stuff ends up opening this power to be misused (to judge something as bad or fake), and as we know..it will happen.
That's my worries.Just I said before, punishing him big L
not punishing big L too
deplatforming ppl when theyre spreading hate speech is good. how to determine when something is hate speech? with the quote i posted: "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against their will, is to prevent harm to others"
if a concept or idea from a religion consist in others being considered less human or that they have limited freedom, then its good to ignore said idea and label it as what it is, hate speech.
alice_ [#33]"the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against their will, is to prevent harm to others"
thats the limit of free speech
if u have a dude like tate talking openly about his views which are extremely harmful to women, i think its fair to not let him spread these harmful ideas.
I know Tate has some misogynistic stances, but I don't think I have ever heard him to directly incite harm against any groups ever (you can correct me if you'd like by presenting evidence). Misogyny, racism, etc, as bad as they are, do not necessarily incite physical harm, which would be a breach against freedom of speech.
Furthermore, the fact that a person's face could represent an idea is ridiculous and the fact that a gaming platform decides who gets to associate with it is even more ridiculous. What, so the next time someone takes a photo with George W. Bush or Obama, he'll be branded as a war mongerer since the former began the Iraq War and the latter launched drone attacks in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, etc? What prevents Carlos from being simply a fan of Tate's kickboxing career to him associating with Tate's worst ideas?
Sentinels_BRAZIL [#41]I mean, just see how "misused" riot power over this can be used to, Ocelote got fucked just to party with him (not even supporting his ideas)
The problem is that this opens up the power to be misused and we know it will be.
I'm not even defending Tate or Ocelote too.
That's the only worries.
Still, Riot can decide whatever they want.
its a private company, they already can do this even without a reason if they want. theres not much power there, and even the punishment for him is to not get money from riot which is pretty much nothing lol.
eventonly [#32]LEC is an organizer and not Riot, so your statement is kinda right since the ruling is by LEC and not Riot.
LEC is not an organizer. It's a platform for organizers, i.e., it's still under jurisdiction that Riot company, a gaming platform, should make.
ptrlol [#43]I know Tate has some misogynistic stances, but I don't think I have ever heard him to directly incite harm against any groups ever (you can correct me if you'd like by presenting evidence). Misogyny, racism, etc, as bad as they are, do not necessarily incite physical harm, which would be a breach against freedom of speech.
Furthermore, the fact that a person's face could represent an idea is ridiculous and the fact that a gaming platform decides who gets to associate with it is even more ridiculous. What, so the next time someone takes a photo with George W. Bush or Obama, he'll be branded as a war mongerer since the former began the Iraq War and the latter launched drone attacks in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, etc? What prevents Carlos from being simply a fan of Tate's kickboxing career to him associating with Tate's worst ideas?
he literally moved to romania cuz he can be more corrupt there, and said that himself lmao.
he has stated that depression isnt real, has compared women to dogs, has said that women cant drive, that they belong in the home, that they are "given to the man and belong to the man", and that women are partially responsible for being sexually assaulted
ptrlol [#43]I know Tate has some misogynistic stances, but I don't think I have ever heard him to directly incite harm against any groups ever (you can correct me if you'd like by presenting evidence). Misogyny, racism, etc, as bad as they are, do not necessarily incite physical harm, which would be a breach against freedom of speech.
Furthermore, the fact that a person's face could represent an idea is ridiculous and the fact that a gaming platform decides who gets to associate with it is even more ridiculous. What, so the next time someone takes a photo with George W. Bush or Obama, he'll be branded as a war mongerer since the former began the Iraq War and the latter launched drone attacks in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, etc? What prevents Carlos from being simply a fan of Tate's kickboxing career to him associating with Tate's worst ideas?
What prevents Carlos from being simply a fan of Tate's kickboxing career to him associating with Tate's worst ideas?
he doubled down. if he hadnt doubled down I can promise you there wouldnt have been all these consequences. thats the biggest mistake he made. he defended being associated with him. he replied with that tweet knowing what it could imply.
alice_ [#39]u wouldnt say the same if andrew was racist (which he probably is). all of tate's comments and views about women are inherently misogynistic, theres no opinion about this. it IS harmful, like any other kind of discrimination.
The problem is that Tate also has other achievements and we don't know what Carlos is associating with in Tate since he never clarified. It's not as if I took a picture with Chris Brown, I endorse woman beating, or if I take a photo with Mel Gibson or Tom Cruise, I endorse anti-Semitism. Only in VLR will you find people agreeing with such illogical decisions.
ptrlol [#51]The problem is that Tate also has other achievements and we don't know what Carlos is associating with in Tate since he never clarified. It's not as if I took a picture with Chris Brown, I endorse woman beating, or if I take a photo with Mel Gibson or Tom Cruise, I endorse anti-Semitism. Only in VLR will you find people agreeing with such illogical decisions.
if my favorite valorant player ended up being a bigot i wouldnt even want to take a photo with them, i would just not associate myself with ppl that spread hateful ideas.
h9zard [#49]What prevents Carlos from being simply a fan of Tate's kickboxing career to him associating with Tate's worst ideas?
he doubled down. if he hadnt doubled down I can promise you there wouldnt have been all these consequences. thats the biggest mistake he made. he defended being associated with him. he replied with that tweet knowing what it could imply.
This, all he had to do was say something like "Not my fault he was there, I cant control who showed up to the party, mb guys" and the internet would have forgotten in a day lmao.
trembolonaRage [#7]This sets some extremely bad precedent
the only reason this would look bad is Riot's history with issues like these. If viewed as an isolated ruling it makes sense imo.
acels1 [#40]riot W. u guys are as dumb as a rock. riot doesnt give a fuck how good of a person tate is. what riot care about is money and carlos partying with tate might cost them money
Dude, no big sponsorship is going to back out because one of the many employees took a photo with a controversial figures. Like what? Then almost every platform that relies on sponsorships will NOT survive. This is simply virtue signaling...
h9zard [#49]What prevents Carlos from being simply a fan of Tate's kickboxing career to him associating with Tate's worst ideas?
he doubled down. if he hadnt doubled down I can promise you there wouldnt have been all these consequences. thats the biggest mistake he made. he defended being associated with him. he replied with that tweet knowing what it could imply.
That doesn't answer my question. When he double downed, he didn't double down on Tate's worst ideologies. Life isn't black and white lmfao.
ptrlol [#60]That doesn't answer my question. When he double downed, he didn't double down on Tate's worst ideologies. Life isn't black and white lmfao.
reading comprehension 😲😲😲
alice_ [#52]if my favorite valorant player ended up being a bigot i wouldnt even want to take a photo with them, i would just not associate myself with ppl that spread hateful ideas.
Bet your fanny stinks
alice_ [#52]if my favorite valorant player ended up being a bigot i wouldnt even want to take a photo with them, i would just not associate myself with ppl that spread hateful ideas.
Okay, that's a fair view. However, it's unfair to expect others to partake on that ideology.
ptrlol [#59]Dude, no big sponsorship is going to back out because one of the many employees took a photo with a controversial figures. Like what? Then almost every platform that relies on sponsorships will NOT survive. This is simply virtue signaling...
why not? tate is already black listed on tiktok youtube etc..
ptrlol [#60]That doesn't answer my question. When he double downed, he didn't double down on Tate's worst ideologies. Life isn't black and white lmfao.
life isnt a television ad either. some things are implied. you dont get to have a description for every action you make.
h9zard [#66]life isnt a television ad either. some things are implied. you dont get to have a description for every action you make.
What..? This is such a stupid and dangerous precedent - to allow authority figures to make arbitrary implications based on your actions that don't give any statements. I already gave further examples below.
I hope all of your friends and family are perfect. By golly, if any of them espouses any form of bigotry or immoral behaviors, you better cut your ties with them because of the iMpliCaTiOnS.
acels1 [#65]why not? tate is already black listed on tiktok youtube etc..
many employees took a photo with a controversial figures
is not a equal comparison with a controversial figure making direct statements on the platform...
charizard_123 [#22]he deserves to be uncanceled for hustle and uncut gems
so youre saying they cancel each other out huh???? 😳😳
ptrlol [#67]What..? This is such a stupid and dangerous precedent - to allow authority figures to make arbitrary implications based on your actions that don't give any statements. I already gave further examples below.
I hope all of your friends and family are perfect. By golly, if any of them espouses any form of bigotry or immoral behaviors, you better cut your ties with them because of the iMpliCaTiOnS.
I am not the CEO of a multimillion dollar company that has a very big social media presence. If I were I would 100% not associate publicly with such a family member and surely wouldnt post it on twitter and definitely wouldnt be doubling down on it when I get backlash.
alice_ [#52]if my favorite valorant player ended up being a bigot i wouldnt even want to take a photo with them, i would just not associate myself with ppl that spread hateful ideas.
Its funny how brainwashed you are
" U wouldnt say the same if andrew was racist (which he probably is)." Was actually hilarious. GJ
h9zard [#73]I am not the CEO of a multimillion dollar company that has a very big social media presence. If I were I would 100% not associate publicly with such a family member and surely wouldnt post it on twitter and definitely wouldnt be doubling down on it when I get backlash.
I am not the CEO of a multimillion dollar company that has a very big social media presence.
Judging by your thought process, you don't have to worry about that as this would never happen.
If I were I would 100% not associate publicly with such a family member and surely wouldnt post it on twitter and definitely wouldnt be doubling down on it when I get backlash.
Good, you just explained that you, yourself, would do your best to please Riot. That still isn't an argument against my claim or answers my question.
not_smart_user [#10]https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1579898246679629824?s=20&t=cW3Qd74eQWEGxnNNedv2Vg jake reposted LUL
riot when someone associated themselves with a misogynist: 😡😡😡
riot when a person within their company is an offender: 😀😁🫣
It is truly amazing how the same group of people who canceled Carlos are also the same people who will continue to support Riot Games of all companies…
ptrlol [#76]I am not the CEO of a multimillion dollar company that has a very big social media presence.
Judging by your thought process, you don't have to worry about that as this would never happen.
If I were I would 100% not associate publicly with such a family member and surely wouldnt post it on twitter and definitely wouldnt be doubling down on it when I get backlash.
Good, you just explained that you, yourself, would do your best to please Riot. That still isn't an argument against my claim or answers my question.
Its not abt pleasing Riot its abt knowing what ur job requires of you and the limits you have being in such a high position. You cant risk tainting the public image of a company whose biggest appeal is its social media presence and brand value. and what even was ur question?
goatdavid [#19]Crazy how riot collabs w a satan worshiping clown (lil nas x) but ban someone for being in the same room w tate
Wow there is no way this is real
Larry [#78]It is still amazing how Carlos got canceled for partying with someone of all things. What a sad world we live in.
he didnt get canceled, he got backstabbed
alice_ [#39]u wouldnt say the same if andrew was racist (which he probably is). all of tate's comments and views about women are inherently misogynistic, theres no opinion about this. it IS harmful, like any other kind of discrimination.
Do you know Andrew Tate personally? How do you probably know he’s a racist? Has he come out and said anything racist?
capital_d_colon [#5]Surely riot would also fairly punish their employees who have done similar if not worse actions
It is still sad that Carlos got canceled for partying with someone. It’s not that deep but whatever.
Meanwhile at Riot Games, you have all these cases against them and Riot doesn’t care.
KoreanOverlord [#81]he didnt get canceled, he got backstabbed
He definitely got canceled by the twitter, Valorant, and league communities.
Riot indeed backstabbed him though. It’s just ironic though that the same group of people who canceled Carlos also continue to support Riot Games.
Adam_Sandler [#3]Who do you think created cancel culture?
A certain group of people who throw fits when things don’t go there way or people who have different opinions than them. And if you don’t appease the mob, you get canceled.
Typically they live on social media, particularly twitter.
h9zard [#79]Its not abt pleasing Riot its abt knowing what ur job requires of you and the limits you have being in such a high position. You cant risk tainting the public image of a company whose biggest appeal is its social media presence and brand value. and what even was ur question?
Read your first reply where you quoted me...
Like I said in your other post, there is a difference between a gaming platform and an organizer. To ban people from working on your gaming platform because you took a photo with a controversial figure is ridiculous no matter how you try to spin it.
This is the debate between whether you can separate the artist from the art and you're thoughtlessly taking one side of the coin, in the likeness of Riot, without providing any justification for your reasoning. To summarize my argument concisely: just because you take a photo or associate with someone does not mean you associate with them wholly.
A gaming company should not determine your personal life without context. All we saw of Carlos was in a party with Tate and Carlos "doubling down" by saying people can't police his friends. This does not imply or mean Carlos accepts Tate's misogyny. It would be an entirely different story if Carlos was in anti-women's march or if he stated he stands by Tate's views on women. In the real world, it's not a mind boggling concept that you can befriend people you have disagreements with, but this might be difficult to grasp if you're constantly on Twitter or VLR.
ColdWKey [#88]But hey when Riot employees do something way worse than Carlos then big daddy Riot can just pay out money and no big deal. No sensitive training or 8 week leave for whoever responsible. All the sexual harassers keep their job. Amazing company with amazing standards!
Double standards
FoechiGG [#90]Wasn’t riot like mistreating some workers? But a dude hanging out with a dude who has some shitty opinions and a shitty attitude is where they draw the line
More than just some workers lol. They have quite a few cases against them. It is quite hilarious though because the group of people who canceled Carlos for partying with someone is the same group of people who continue to support Riot Games of all companies. Riot is the last company to hold a grudge.
EU_quiet [#21]Lib*rals
xaxa this is not Liberalism by any mean, its leftist agenda which will may lead western society into authoritarianism in future.
EU_quiet [#21]Lib*rals
Yeah, those conservatives didn't try to cancel a guy for kneeling during the US national anthem.
Fucking liberals
Faraday [#100]Yeah, those conservatives didn't try to cancel a guy for kneeling during the US national anthem.
Fucking liberals
(1 example, when I can 100 that just happened today lmfaooo)
EU_quiet [#103](1 example, when I can 100 that just happened today lmfaooo)
yeah of course right now it's controlled by liberals because that's who is culturally in power but when conservatives were in power they were the ones that did it, liberals didn't create cancel culture, people have been cancelled since forever, it just depends who has cultural power at the time will be able to control corporations.
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