Loonie and toonies are only referred in coins. But we don’t actually call a dollar or two dollars loonie or toonies.

But yes Canada is a silly country I agree.

What do you mean by cs has failed to penetrate other markets?

The biggest issue with Valorant is the lack of tier 1 International events in a year followed with a 6 month offseason. The league as an idea is good but it creates a bubble. NA CS did the same thing and gate kept new and younger players and kept recycling same players on different rosters. Once NA CS broke that cycle the region got a lot better, players took it more seriously, egos were gone, etc. Then sadly Covid hit and hurt the scene more than anything else and esl didn’t help at all.

What potential is valve missing out on? They already have the most popular tact fps game out followed with the #2 most popular esport (#1 in terms of fps) with Dota behind that. The only thing Valve is missing out on is cs2. Game looks better but is a downgrade in every other way. Should have just left csgo.

CSGO > val > cs2

100%. The top 2 esports are CS and Valorant without a doubt whether it be player base, viewership, etc. The two most popular players are s1mple and Faker without a doubt. I remember when yay won player of the year over s1mple in 2022 it made no sense to me. Comparing the numbers side by side its not a comparison. Yes CS has more events but just other aspects alone with viewership and memorable games are another level. Just for whatever reason the people who run the game awards have a bias towards Valorant.

I think the league holds Valorant back and limited events. 3 big events a year is pretty bogus followed with 6 months off. CS like I said in my other comment is ran like an actual sport where their schedules reflect that as well. Not to mention just overall production, casting, observing, etc. in CS is just another level. Hard to beat.

man spoke the truth. riot holds regions hands to promote the game as where cs may the best teams qualify and win regardless of regions.

I agree. Consistency in Valorant will always be an issue whether it be team or individual. The skill gap is overall lower in Valorant and not to mention too much randomness in the game which makes consistency an issue. Aspas has been really the only player to actually establish s1mple or zywoo status in the game. The man is a consistent beast. Can't even really point a finger at the most consistent team, it's probably been Fnatic overall.

I also think how far spread out events are from each other doesn't help as well.

I disagree. CS2 is shit and a downgrade from CSGO but CS is still a better esport than Valorant. Skill gap is overall higher in CS. The way Riot handles Valorant is different compared to way Valve handles CSGO. In CS the best of the best have to qualify and battle it out. Riot's way of handling it is holding regions hands to promote the game. Each team from every region gets x amount of slots where in CS the best of the best play each other not a lot of hand outs. If you actually played CS and are from NA there are a few reasons why NA lacks behind Europe and other regions. NA CS was its own worst enemy. Players in the scene cared more about egos and paychecks rather than winning. They created a bubble and recycled the same players throughout the same teams. Valorant had similar issues but its not as bad now. In CS it's better now but what most young NA players lack is experience. When NA CS was at its best (2018-2019), we had players who actually cared about winning and new players were getting opportunities. NA also had 6 events a year instead of now where we get 1-2 (meaning best teams in the world come to NA giving better practice and experience to younger players in t2-t3). What really destroyed NA CS though was covid. Valorant didn't help but covid was the real killer.

Also just the overall way the pro scene is ran are different. Personally not a big fan of 6 month off season and 3 events a year or the franchise league because it does create a bubble. CS schedules are more similar to professional athletes. It's ran like an actual sport.

Also have some other things as well. Least in NA, majority of us grew up on consoles. I certainly did along with most of my irl friends. It's just more popular than PCs as where majority of Europe is the opposite. You won't see players like m0nsey or donk coming out of NA who've been playing the game since they were little. Valorant is a lot of people's first FPS game. It is more casual friendly which is fine but typically the better players especially pros came from a FPS background already (mainly CS, some r6, ow, and apex).

steel is the goat. the good old rank s/na fpl streams were the golden era. him, dazed, tarik, too many names to list.

lost his team the momentum with that dumb play

They’ve been scapegoating Chet for him. It’s funny.

Because NA and SA have and always will be two separate and different regions. Americas or not when Loud won it didn’t exist. Therefore South America region victory.

This game can classify them as Americas all they want but at the end of the day the team pages still classify them in Brazil, Latin America. They are South American teams. Just NA fans coping trying to merge them to combine victories. EU has been the most consistent region in this game.

EU 5
NA 4
SA 1 (1 being Champs)
Korea 1

Yeah apparently so. Only game where South America achievements get labeled into “Americas” even though the “Americas” region didn’t exist yet when they won Champs so it makes no sense to classify it as Americas. Even when you click on Loud, KRU, LEV, they are still counted as Brazil and Latin America teams hence South America.

NA fans just coping that even though Europe hasn’t won an event this year that they still have been the most consistent region since the game came out.

Alright cool so America has 3 major wins in CS then because they all have America. Right?

Yeah South America is anything under North and Central America. Aka where Loud was based out of before any Americas region existed.

Therefore when they won Champs it counted for South America.

It clearly isn’t yours either. You can’t seem to understand that Loud winning Champs was South America event win. Americas region didn’t exist so why would it ever classify as “Americas” event win.

Yeah lil man and Loud was a South American team when they won champs. Franchising didn’t exist yet therefore it can’t be counted as an “Americas” region win lmao

Nah just average NA fan coping and being delusional about our region.

Hey at least G2 won Dallas though.

Can merge the regions all you want lil man. When LOUD won Champs they were classified as a South America team lmao as they were based in South America. Americas region didnt exist yet. If they merged and then won the event then that’s one thing.

Why would that win count for NA?

Champs 22 was LOUD, South America team based in South America. The whole “Americas” shit wasn’t a thing lol.

EU has 5
NA Has 4
South America has 1
Asia has 1

Don’t get it twisted man our region is full of frauds lol. We got speed ran the last 2 days of the event.

Yet they still have won more events than any other region

Also hasn’t been a year yet since Fnatic won Tokyo

Saw a thing that it comes out in ranked on the 11th.

Now if that’s true or not idk.

EMEA has been the most consistent region since the game came out. They have won more events than any other region.

Considering Sentinels won one event in 2021 and then went MIA for 3 years. They won’t be winning an event till 2027 at the very minimum.

NA had no business being this far into the event

NA had no business being in this lower final

Bro said his Raze was near the level of Aspas when he has a 0.94 rating. That’s crazy.

He’s solid on Jett that’s about it right now.

It’s a shame they always choke. Everyone on that team is insane but they do the same shit. Post plants they look lost. Not playing time in a 1v1 and overpeeking. Why are two of them just kissing each other on default? Something brought the round back just to int and then in the 1v1 he doesn’t play time.

So dumb and a dumb way to lose. It’s a shame I want them to win an event but who knows at this rate.

It’s not surprising from the Valorant community. But it’s also not surprising PRX threw in the dumbest way possible.

That first attack round in OT is the reason they lost

Average throw. Get collateral’d. Something brings the round back for him to int and lose a dumb 1v1 due to not playing time.

I don’t think that is how it works

Nah South Africa region rising

Average PRX throw

I’m trying to figure out why our comments got Down voted

And Stewie playing in the grand finals at IEM Dallas.

I still would like to see PRX win an event but shall see how it all plays out.

Raw mechanics aren’t the biggest factor in this game but I do agree that S0m is cracked.

Not surprising considering he was their worst rated player.

Chet was an already well established coach. Even if you want to blame Chet the players aren’t performing either way. Eventually it will just become people scapegoating.

Why

Victor can play duelist and we know he can play Raze or Jett. Meanwhile Demon1 can only play Jett and can’t play Raze.

Considering it’s a Raze meta. I’m sure they will do fine.

It’s because for whatever reason NA loves to crown players in their region as the best player and they do play insane for a few months but then afterwards fall off hard. Like you mentioned, first tenz, then yay, then demon1.

Meanwhile Aspas has been the best and most consistent player since 2022.

He made Wales proud

I just find it funny his whole claim and persona was radiant coach but then you find out he never really got radiant lol

Nice guy tho

Should have been demon1

Only thing I have against him is that he used to be a MDL thrower. Other than that he’s fine.

Tex is a MDL thrower. Could care less about him. He’s always been known as an American player. Don’t know why he’s going by a German player now. And yes just because you have Italian ancestry but born in America means you’re American.

Yeah NA won the past two events and there has been 2 events since late 2023 lol. Doesn’t change the fact the best teams in NA are currently South American prominent. If we are basing off what region is the best based off total results it’s Europe. But everyone thinks EU is washed but they won 2 events last year. EU has won more events than every other region lol.

Best teams in our region are all South American prominent teams anyway.

Besides in FPS games, NA will always be known as the ego region.

They play in LA . Sure the league is called Americas but it’s based in NA. The best teams are still South American prominent teams anyway.

The best teams in NA are all South American

Supposedly Loud is benching Less though for financial reasons.