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#1
sheahhhh

that SEN needed to consider their options for PR purposes, cause everytime SEN would make a tweet people would say ratzham and stuff, I feel so bad for him, he had so many moving variables and a teams success isn't reliant on the IGL solely, idk why people hate him, many other players have ego but are not hated nearly as much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne44QWVaslA also this

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PakiJudge
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hes ur dad or something?

#3
Typical_NA_Fan
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no but he did sleep with your mom

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PakiJudge
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how do u know? im reporting u to mods for false advertising

#14
IslamicEsportsScholar
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Normal things among americans xd

#59
Stax_rb_op
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Kekw

#73
Vampli
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LMAO

#75
sheahhhh
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yes in ur country u cann get capital punishment for sleeping with anyone

#77
33AJ
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💀

#85
TheSpec7re
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offensive but true 💀

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TheHardStuckDiamond
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holy shit

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Mjtchell
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People don't like him because not only is he bad at taking criticism, he insults those who criticize him and make it a big deal and escalates.
He probably wouldn't be that hated if he just ignored the hate rather than continue to fuel it by almost leaning in the opposite direction making things worse for himself.

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sheahhhh
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many pros are bad at taking critiscm , FNS is the same way, so is Ardiss, so is Suygetsu, so is Ayrin, so are many players in valorant

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MIDMIDMID
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ik what u mean but most of the time this so called "criticism" is either just hate or something dumb

#18
Mjtchell
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Yea but most ignore it, not create lies and then exaggerate the situation when people catch him in those lies

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sheahhhh
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what r u talking about?

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Mjtchell
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Him saying they they practice and then zombs literally saying they dont schedule it lmao

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noxx
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you are taking zombs word over shahz lmfaooo shahz is way more reliable and trust worthy than zombs ever will be, he was the same one who said shahz is a drama king or smthng and then went onto call out marved at the peak of his career lmaoooo, zombs starts most of the drama in val and acts like he did nothing so dont ever trust that guy

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Mjtchell
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HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH
Youre talking about the guy who manufactures drama

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RickyIndian
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ardiis and fns most definitely don’t let criticism go by

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Mjtchell
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They also dont stream every day and then exaggerate lies

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NG1nS
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dude this isn't the same don't bring two completely different situations and compare them? LOL
what kind of criticism did fns and ardis get about doing their job as an igl or a chamber????
that shit is completely irrelevant, we're talking about a man that literally said " other pros watch anime in their free time and i stream it's the same"
mf was clueless about his own region and kept giving the shittiest excuses in the world

jusr be happy for him that he's going to be doing the things he love and move on, shahz staying as an igl in that team would never have worked

move on

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NG1nS based as usual

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noxx
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"mf was clueless about his own region and kept giving the shittiest excuses in the world" yes indeed, who are you again? you know the ins and outs of every pro NA player than shahz does huh? stop acting like shahz made all the fucking mistakes, he is human too. It is most definitely true that pros do shit in their free time like have you seen babybay? bro goes to every single party in NA no joke and about the ignoring criticism part, imagine ur having a bad day and u stream JUST to see that your chat is talking shit constantly and asking u constantly about why you are dogshit (even tho more than half of them are hardstuck silver), he ignored it for as long as he could and then eventually everyone breaks and shahz just broke earlier than most would that's all there is to it, vlr hates him and kids from vlr show that hate on twitter and some even go to his stream JUST to hate, you guys really thing just because he did a few questionable things he deserves this much hate? and no matter how much u tried to discredit him he won a masters and nobody can take that away from him, fns was there at that time, dephh was and so was all the top igls but shahz was better than all of them and he still can be. Nobody knows anything about what his life is and it could be really bad for all we know so just stop hating on someone for the sake of hating, he might've made some mistakes but it doesnt mean u hate him

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Mjtchell
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The dickriding is crazy

#70
Blazieboy
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Shahz needs some coz the haters are getting out of hand.

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noxx
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common Mjtchell L

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NG1nS
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what are you on about? babybay? do you even understand that we're talking about optic, xset, any team that managed to make internationals A SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE
asuna, cryo two duellists decreased or even stopped streaming completely bcz they hated the money? NO bcz they priorities their pro career over streaming

a thing shahz won't do, then why is he still on a team? the man doesn't want to put in the hours do you think he makes excuses to get hate?

no, he makes excuses so when the team solves whatever "problems" behind the scene he would still be able to stream the same amount, that's why he doesn't go" you guys don't know what's happening behind the scenes, if we could practice more i would stream less you guys" but instead he goes" do you want me to leave all this money?" .......
the guy doesn't have it in him anymore, whether the team have problems or not he should've left the igling position in 2022 to someone else.

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"you guys don't know what's happening behind the scenes, if we could practice more i would stream less you guys" he legit said this lmfaooo also maybe u should understand that he isnt getting enough money from being a pro to take care of his family? and thats why he streams and also he enjoys so idk what ur on about and he doesnt have it in him anymore but my point still stand nobody knows everything that happened behind the scenes and like shahz said he doesnt want to blame his tmmates or org for some mistakes and most of the stuff that happened was just unlucky, they couldnt prac coz of tenz and sick but nobody blames them right? its all shahz fault that he got handed 2 new players and had to change EVERYTHING and then because of tenz being sick again on lcq and manyyy more issues that led to the team doing badly that only the org and the players know but even then nobody hates on tenz or sick instead all the hate gets redirected to shahz who is trying his best to balance streaming which he loves and competing which he also loves

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Kiklop
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I don't think he has financial problems

#91
noxx
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he is Pakistani so like he has to take care of his family especially his mom since his dad isn't there anymore so even tho it isnt technically financial problems and moreover he needs money for himself so yeah

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chimpy
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ik this is partly because they are so good. they are in the right most of the time

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Typical_NA_Fan
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If we hate on all the pros with cocky or antagonistic personalities we will end up with a bunch of quiet and boring interviews and personalities

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C9_YAY_LOVER
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Too bad you have to actually be good at the game to back it up, otherwise you just look like an idiot

#11
Typical_NA_Fan
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okay so only ever talk after already winning?
seems lame to me, better banter occurs before match since you are held accountable afterwards -- not everyone can win

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weakest_marved_enjoyer
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if yay was toxic, even before a match or whatever, itd be fine cuz its yay. but when ratzam is toxic its just weird

#51
Zay301
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but when has he actually been toxic, he's only just talked back to the weirdos on vlr talking shit to him (who aren't pros)

#53
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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if ur trying to tell me that shaz isnt toxic ur getting blocked on all socials

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Zay301
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if being toxic is talking back to someone that is talking shit then everyone in the scene is toxic, even someone like TenZ

also i dont want your socials lil bro

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weakest_marved_enjoyer
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this is so braindead. you dont need to call ppl names and shti to be toxic. shaz is toxic, but tries to hide it in a way that makes him seem like a good guy

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Zay301
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so by your same reasoning Marved is toxic right

#58
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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marved hasnt been in any type of drama recently, or at least i havent seen anything abt it on VLR. and ive never heard anything abt him being toxic (except for the kydae thing)

so unless you know something that i dont, which is very possible, idek what marved has to do with anything

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bonkashi
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yeah but it's better to have the results to back it up

#9
sheahhhh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne44QWVaslA

#10
C9_YAY_LOVER
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Blaming others as usual

#12
sheahhhh
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ok u go igl for a team that was falling apart

#16
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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wym "for a team that was falling apart"
in 2021 all he had to do was "tenz go kill"... when he had to actually igl he failed bad

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MIDMIDMID
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what is wrong with you? its crazy how people wake up everyday and think its perfectly fine to hate on someone they have 0 contact with, someone that they haven't had a conversation with, someone that doesn't even know they exist. SHITIS CRAZY

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weakest_marved_enjoyer
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what is wrong with you? its crazy how people wake up everyday and think its perfectly fine to dick ride on someone they have 0 contact with, someone that they haven't had a conversation with, someone that doesn't even know they exist. SHITIS CRAZY

its not even hating lil bro its just facts. SEN won 3 games against real teams.. thats failure

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RickyIndian
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oh so if you defend someone from being eternally harassed then apparently you’re a dick rider. what a world we live in !!

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weakest_marved_enjoyer
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yes.... especially if youre gonna tell me how he doesnt know me, when he doesnt know you either. plus, its not like im on his socials talking shit. im on VLR lil bro bro. hop off of shaz's, and my dick PLEASE

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MIDMIDMID
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use ur head b4 u type ur delirious

#31
weakest_marved_enjoyer
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you made a VLR acc just to defend shaz. that is HOF dick riding

#20
Perma
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surely he gets picked up by a franchised org if hes a worthy igl

#23
RickyIndian
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surely you can talk to a girl if you talk so much on the internet

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Perma
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😇 😇

#86
kanyeast
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surely sen fanboys have a combined iq of at least 50 and know how to talk to girls

#22
RickyIndian
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it sucks how people on the internet can bully someone to losing their job

i don’t think people even know why they’re hating him, they do it just because others are

#41
SAMPV6
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exactly, people just bandwagon on stupid takes, just like what happened to Zombs

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GreyDaze
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Sure the reason he is getting dropped is due to ppl on the internet, not his performance,attitude and other things

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Tyzehhxo
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Tier 2 at best IGL, happy to see SEN refresh the roster with new faces. At the end of the day, ShahZ’s best IGLing isn’t in this meta, he struggles to currently read the game. I dislike how in that whole video he was basically saying “well it’s not my fault” when you’re an IGL, you are the leader, it’s your job as an IGL to lead the team to win, so yeah, it kinda is his fault. I understand outside factors play a big part and he can only do so much, but as an IGL everything gets put back on you because you’re the leader.

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sheahhhh
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so why arent as much people blaming other igls when they lose? fns in finals for example?

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Tyzehhxo
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Ofcourse they do. No one is saying FNS is immune, it’s just when you don’t have success and your IGL is doing the same thing over and over and people are pointing out what you’re doing wrong yet you keep doing it makes you think “I don’t think he has any idea what he’s doing” Goodluck to ShahZ dude if he wishes to continue but if not I’m sure content for him will still be as good, after all his streams and stuff have always done well and he’s told us many times that he makes more money streaming than he does Competing.

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sheahhhh
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whats the point of ratzham that doesnt even describe his issues in any capactiy

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Tyzehhxo
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I’m not sure what you mean by that, are you saying that people don’t describe his issues or he himself doesn’t describe his issues? I’m sorry it’s just what you said doesn’t really make sense.

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TheHardStuckDiamond
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Because of their consistency. Sure the fell short when it mattered the most but its without a doubt that FNS mid rounding are some of the best in the world if not the best.

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sheahhhh
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Fns is very consistent at getting no kills put an immortal coach in and its the same thing

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SaltyMcNulty
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The amount of hate and vitriol against him is uncalled for and should never be tolerated by the community. But Shaz can't escape some of the constructive criticisms against him. Extra long hours of streaming, His choices with roster changes and coach appointment decision, complaints about not playing meta comps, bad shot calling etc are valid criticisms imo and you can't wipe them out under the rug of few bad apples saying dumb shit. Shahz has been on SEN for a long time, most Esports orgs are not that faithful , I mean look at 100T it's a cut throat business. I don't think if they are cutting him it would solely be a PR move.

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Tyzehhxo
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Sometimes you gotta make cuts to see success, ShahZ should be thankful SEN even kept him on as long as they did after all the losses after Iceland. He’s had a decent career ShahZ. Winning the first International LAN event, and all the shit in between. I don’t hate the guy, I just don’t think he’s as good as many dick ride him to be and his time as a Tier 1 IGL is over.

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LouBag
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Good take

#35
Imwrong
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Hopefully he never gets to igl again so he doesnt need to explain why is sentinels bad

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NG1nS
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i don't feel bad for him, i really wish he would just left SEN to start growing before bcz with him being the igl THIS TEAM WAS GOING NO WHERE

listen man he made it clear that he proprieties his streaming careen the same if not over his pro career, don't feel bad for him this is the best for him.

he can go on in his content creation career and SEN can bring in an igl that actually do his job and make them better win-win

also for the hate i genuinely think he brings hate upon himself, he's not a sacred being that can't be criticized and a lot of people made some serious points about why he was not doing his job but his excuses and answers were something out of this world just completely shameful and it showed how much of an ego he had.

i still remember dapr being brainwashed by him and actually saying "bootcamps doesn't necessarily make the team better" and it was clear that they reached this conclusion with the team (shahz)

he needed to go and he's not out of a job he makes a shit ton of money so don't feel bad for him

for the last part or excuse that there were stuff happening in the background and he took all the blame, this is something i feel like he got done wrong in, SEN not having a coach (according to him) was the staff and management of sen's fault so yeah in that regard i definitely think he got unnecessary hate just piling up.

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MIDMIDMID
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What did i just read LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO

#50
NG1nS
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who's this guy? the new baiter?

#55
lorenzopajaroFC
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Idk but I like him already

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weakest_marved_enjoyer
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beep boop

#62
SigmaMale
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Damn that's crazy

#63
Faraday
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'pr purposes' is a interesting cope for why he's gonna be kicked from the team lmao

You cannot unironically believe that he's getting kicked for pr when SEN literally have alleged rapist signed

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totneK_kaT_umkaM
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SEN hate boner already exist since 1st Reykjavik as far as I know. Mostly from EU kids at that time.
They're just becoming the scapegoat of internet people.
Their toxic fan and their arrogant behavior (which should be fine since they're the best at that time, people just dumb and only finding excuse) is what make the hate boner grow.
And with their recent performance, their fans grow weaker and become a meme for the internet people.
In the end the one who criticize is only 5y/o keyboard warrior, If they can deliver a good performance in the game then they should be fine.

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The keyword here is "if they can" and since more than 6 months, they havent

#74
abcdeffgonext
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Everybody knows shahzam is rat, drama king and plays victim card and act innocent when things go south.
Theres a reason why he is hated by a lot of the old school cs pros, like dazed, steel, semphis, even subroza, wardell.
He has no close friends in both cs and valorant scene.

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FoechiGG
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Thought this was a VLR thing

#81
ShiroNekoX
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If it's really for PR purposes, sinatraa would not be on the org long long time ago LOL. What a omega Copium.

"everyone hate bootcamp" "bootcamp doesn't necessarily make a team better"

And on Sentinels franchising documentary TenZ and Dapr showed how much they love bootcamp.

One more, if you guys see the performance coaching part on Sentinels documentary on how Shahz and Rawkus have a mindset "I know better than anyone on the team" meanwhile the coach said "you need to put aside all of your knowledge to be able to get coached". That's the main problem of Sentinels.

#82
sheahhhh
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bro sinatraa aint on the comp team u dumbass, he has a contract on the content team which SEN dont want to break cause it costs mad money

#83
Neoseki
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Shazam dick riding in vlr? That's fresh.

#84
trola
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🐀

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Tentativas
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Don't talk like he didn't bring it on himself brother. You cannot play the victim to circumstances you created.

edit: also the PR shit is bullshit lmaoo obviously they want to kick him cause his performances were absolute garbage for the past 2 years except for LCQ in which he actually tried

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