The goat of valorant proves why being Valorant Pro Doesn't Matter
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That's the most immature copium response I've ever heard, he hasn't qualified for a VCT challengers main event in years, and the ONE thing he is known for in his OPing is getting diffed by other NA chambers like yay and cryo. Sad to see how far he's fallen off and still doesn't have the drive to get better
V0sotros [#8]He used to be a CSGO pro and he was T2 at best
yeah lol i remember Wardell peaked into cadiaN with no time left and lost the round. he got cut by ghost after signing an extension. His CS carrer is a disappointment.
Wiggs [#6]So none of the pros in Valorant are good yet he's still a free agent? LMAO
no its because theres a very low ceiling to being "good" in this game,like literally almost any player can hold his own in tier 1 if they really want to even fucking fns or boaster the skill level in "tier 1" on this game is low
V0sotros [#4]That's the most immature copium response I've ever heard, he hasn't qualified for a VCT challengers main event in years, and the ONE thing he is known for in his OPing is getting diffed by other NA chambers like yay and cryo. Sad to see how far he's fallen off and still doesn't have the drive to get better
i mean he is a good player still he is just lazy and has no drive thats why he rather streams
asdfgh [#11]no its because theres a very low ceiling to being "good" in this game,like literally almost any player can hold his own in tier 1 if they really want to even fucking fns or boaster the skill level in "tier 1" on this game is low
FNS and boater are known for thier IGLing not fragging
supr [#15]FNS and boater are known for thier IGLing not fragging
ik my point was they can still somehow play in tier 1
asdfgh [#12]valorant competitviness overall is also so shit compared to cs because of how casual the game is,literally people in faceit level 4 comm better overall than immortals or radiants in eu lmfao
bro go to hltv, csgo is a shit game
tarik_chatter [#2]"i didn't wanna be a pro anyway HMPH >:(" skull_emoji
he want to play pro he is just saying the truth that valorant is a random low skill ceiling game where anyone can beat anyone
Ainz_Ooal_Gown [#19]he want to play pro he is just saying the truth that valorant is a random low skill ceiling game where anyone can beat anyone
if anyone can beat anyone why hasn't he beat anyone
asdfgh [#18]sorry if the truth offends u
Dude. We get it. You really like CSGO. It’s a cool esport. I watch it too. Just go to hltv and enjoy lol. Pointless being here.
tarik_chatter [#20]if anyone can beat anyone why hasn't he beat anyone
it is a team game not ffa bro. just like how tenz on c9 or yay on andbox were limited by their team
V0sotros [#8]He used to be a CSGO pro and he was T2 at best
yea i want him to go that route again and maybe stream val on the side for the money.
supernova [#25]Can anyone who follows and watches this guy on twitch tell me how many viewers he has these days?
Cuz i remember when he was relevant he had an average of 6-10k viewers
-Supernova The King of Valorant
Hes not relevant anymore, he only gets views when everyone is offline, he prolly doesnt like valorant that much anymore at least from my perspective, but he keeps playing cause its a more casual game than csgo is on twitch
V0sotros [#8]He used to be a CSGO pro and he was T2 at best
you're so braindead, he would've literally been on liquid if he didnt leave for val LOL
It's kinda true. Riot has made some really questionable choices in terms of the mechanics of the game, thereby lowering the ceiling by a lot. No spray pattern, slow movement speed, big hitboxes, run and gun. Those all factor in to the skill ceiling being so low, that not only has the playerbase reached it in 2 years of the game's existence, but the bad players ALSO have.
Tbf, that doesn't only take away from being a pro, it always did. The fact that the scene is still filled with CSGO rejects, was always off-putting and something I hoped would go away (I realized it never will). It also takes away from the spectacle, as no highlights actually look impressive.
Riot need to do better. Otherwise this game will die (as it is dying in Europe), just like we can see with the downward trend of VCT viewership.
Mortadelo [#32]So did FNS in CS?
yeah last time about 5 years ago and with no success ever,he was just someone who got a lot chances on decent teams but always fell short or got replaced and he was puttting up like hooxi level ratings
Phamous [#22]Dude. We get it. You really like CSGO. It’s a cool esport. I watch it too. Just go to hltv and enjoy lol. Pointless being here.
naah i just like saying things how they are
hekzy [#31]It's kinda true. Riot has made some really questionable choices in terms of the mechanics of the game, thereby lowering the ceiling by a lot. No spray pattern, slow movement speed, big hitboxes, run and gun. Those all factor in to the skill ceiling being so low, that not only has the playerbase reached it in 2 years of the game's existence, but the bad players ALSO have.
Tbf, that doesn't only take away from being a pro, it always did. The fact that the scene is still filled with CSGO rejects, was always off-putting and something I hoped would go away (I realized it never will). It also takes away from the spectacle, as no highlights actually look impressive.
Riot need to do better. Otherwise this game will die (as it is dying in Europe), just like we can see with the downward trend of VCT viewership.
thats exactly how i feel too,but u will still get down voted by delusional valorant fans because they dont wanna admit ur right even tho u explained it perfectly lol,but they made those changes for that exact reason to make the game easier and more casual compared to cs just like they did when they copied league from dota
asdfgh [#34]yeah last time about 5 years ago and with no success ever,he was just someone who got a lot chances on decent teams but always fell short or got replaced and he was puttting up like hooxi level ratings
Why do you think they have him all those chances? Genuine question, they also saw what you saw, why would they pick him up over and over again if they didn’t know something you don’t
Mortadelo [#38]Why do you think they have him all those chances? Genuine question, they also saw what you saw, why would they pick him up over and over again if they didn’t know something you don’t
they didnt pick him anywhere since 2018 lmao,now he is 30yo,more washed than ever before and still competing at the top of the top where he couldnt even come close to in cs
asdfgh [#39]they didnt pick him anywhere since 2018 lmao,now he is 30yo,more washed than ever before and still competing at the top of the top where he couldnt even come close to in cs
cs is a different game, he might just be better in a game with more varied abilities
sheahhhh [#41]cs is a different game, he might just be better in a game with more varied abilities
nope its just experience diff and easier shooting,boaster was a vlogger and a tier 3 player now he plays in fnatic,ange1 same too instantly one of the best igls because of experience
asdfgh [#42]nope its just experience diff and easier shooting,boaster was a vlogger and a tier 3 player now he plays in fnatic,ange1 same too instantly one of the best igls because of experience
who cares these pros are addicts anyway, no matter how hard they will reach the peak skill level in any game
arecyc [#10]hes right,valorant is a game of rejects,all the actual aimers like s1mple ,twistzz, zywoo are in csgo
Go watch that then British boy 💂♀️
idk if wardell was baiting but if he wasnt this is my answer on that information
xxif (fn player) owns him
zyppan (also FN player and masters champion) owns him
starxo or zeek idk (pretty sure one of these 2 used to play fortnite too) owns him
trent (rust player) owns him
derrek OWns him
sinatraa OWns him
sayaplayer OWns him
koalanoob (literally used to play minecraft like wtf does that even have to do with val LMAO) owns him
tacolilla (literally used to play league of legends most of his free time LOL) owns him
something more to complain about??????
oh right also jamppi got banned from csgo and owns him without even praccing his aim on csgo before joining valorant LMAO
koromast [#48]idk if wardell was baiting but if he wasnt this is my answer on that information
xxif (fn player) owns himzyppan (also FN player and masters champion) owns him
starxo or zeek idk (pretty sure one of these 2 used to play fortnite too) owns him
trent (rust player) owns him
derrek OWns him
sinatraa OWns him
sayaplayer OWns him
koalanoob (literally used to play minecraft like wtf does that even have to do with val LMAO) owns him
tacolilla (literally used to play league of legends most of his free time LOL) owns him
something more to complain about??????
oh right also jamppi got banned from csgo and owns him without even praccing his aim on csgo before joining valorant LMAO
Koalanoob played cs
asdfgh [#35]naah i just like saying things how they are
Or you just have no life so you spend all day masturbating over csgo lol
Ainz_Ooal_Gown [#50]what even is that
Trying to act clueless won't help, we know all you wear is op academy merch, even undies
Engreloy [#53]These CS Joe elitists saying that Valorant is a RNG low skill ceiling competive game because some "minor region teams" are dominating the scene need to check a globe that EU is not the only region on Earth unlike in CS which is a one region tournament btw 😴
That’s because other regions are shit
titanwithpp [#55]Trying to act clueless won't help, we know all you wear is op academy merch, even undies
how much did netero pay you to make this comment 🤣🤭
BBL_Wtcn [#57]That’s because other regions are shit
Do you wanna know why EMEA dont play crossfire? Because you guys are shit
-csgo fan logic
wizardbot [#54]Or you just have no life so you spend all day masturbating over csgo lol
only here dw
KoreanOverlord [#59]Do you wanna know why EMEA dont play crossfire? Because you guys are shit
-csgo fan logic
No one said EU was good at crossfire
sheahhhh [#17]bro go to hltv, csgo is a shit game
I mean he's not wrong though, comms in eu are absolute garbage. I'm not saying this cause I'm some huge cs fan, trust me, valo has been the only game I've consistently played in the last year and a half. But yeah, comms on eu servers are trash. I'm not high rank, but I can't comprehend people in diamond elo not knowing basic callouts. Like 90% of comms are behind, left, right, etc. Like on Breeze if someone isn't on of the 2 sites or in tube they just call mid. Like that gives me any idea of where exactly he is.
Disclaimer: I only played on the Frankfurt server, so can't really speak about the other ones.
tarik_chatter [#20]if anyone can beat anyone why hasn't he beat anyone
dude easy on the guy he's new here, you're destroying him chill
Ainz_Ooal_Gown [#23]it is a team game not ffa bro. just like how tenz on c9 or yay on andbox were limited by their team
that's not an excuse dude. If the game is so easy, why he can't be as good as tenz iceland 2021 that literally carried his team and become the highest performance peak so far, or like yay 2022 that so consistent with chamber
Saizaku [#63]I mean he's not wrong though, comms in eu are absolute garbage. I'm not saying this cause I'm some huge cs fan, trust me, valo has been the only game I've consistently played in the last year and a half. But yeah, comms on eu servers are trash. I'm not high rank, but I can't comprehend people in diamond elo not knowing basic callouts. Like 90% of comms are behind, left, right, etc. Like on Breeze if someone isn't on of the 2 sites or in tube they just call mid. Like that gives me any idea of where exactly he is.
Disclaimer: I only played on the Frankfurt server, so can't really speak about the other ones.
even worse in terms of toxicity and annoying e couples in london servers
ItsMeDio [#69]that's not an excuse dude. If the game is so easy, why he can't be as good as tenz iceland 2021 that literally carried his team and become the highest performance peak so far, or like yay 2022 that so consistent with chamber
Highest perfomance peak so far. Cope.
He fall so hard cant even win anything now in NA.
Prontera [#71]Highest perfomance peak so far. Cope.
He fall so hard cant even win anything now in NA.
hey, i'm not defending tenz, but just give an examples lol
asdfgh [#35]naah i just like saying things how they are
Based on your opinion lol. Have fun in hltv
Netero [#33]Cope more fanboy
I doubt Wardell can be a Tier One pro anymore. AWPing is very competitive, Wardell is good in NA but will get diff'd by ANY EU tier one pro from Simple to Sunpayus to Afro
ItsMeDio [#69]that's not an excuse dude. If the game is so easy, why he can't be as good as tenz iceland 2021 that literally carried his team and become the highest performance peak so far, or like yay 2022 that so consistent with chamber
As far as the NA scene,
i’d argue that wardell has been just as consistent as yay. he hasn’t had a chance internationally, so I can’t comment on that, but wardell consistently carried tsm with all of their roster iterations.
V0sotros [#8]He used to be a CSGO pro and he was T2 at best
he was going to be signed to Liquid before he switched to Val. He was a Tier 1 player on a Tier 1.5 peak Ghost team. He’s made some pretty insane plays, beaten simple/zywoo/nikos in some Bo1s when he had the chance to go international. and absolutely farmed NA pro league.
Wiggs [#6]So none of the pros in Valorant are good yet he's still a free agent? LMAO
he’s had offers but he’s waiting for franchising to even consider them. that’s what’s been reported, at least.
dexter000111 [#30]Just a reminder that Wardell got chamber diffed and op diffed by steel and Kanpeki
Just a reminder that Wardell literally diffed YAY everytime they met
V0sotros [#4]That's the most immature copium response I've ever heard, he hasn't qualified for a VCT challengers main event in years, and the ONE thing he is known for in his OPing is getting diffed by other NA chambers like yay and cryo. Sad to see how far he's fallen off and still doesn't have the drive to get better
Hes making bank streaming, i doubt he cares what randoms on vlr are saying
hekzy [#31]It's kinda true. Riot has made some really questionable choices in terms of the mechanics of the game, thereby lowering the ceiling by a lot. No spray pattern, slow movement speed, big hitboxes, run and gun. Those all factor in to the skill ceiling being so low, that not only has the playerbase reached it in 2 years of the game's existence, but the bad players ALSO have.
Tbf, that doesn't only take away from being a pro, it always did. The fact that the scene is still filled with CSGO rejects, was always off-putting and something I hoped would go away (I realized it never will). It also takes away from the spectacle, as no highlights actually look impressive.
Riot need to do better. Otherwise this game will die (as it is dying in Europe), just like we can see with the downward trend of VCT viewership.
Dont use common sense here, people dont like it and cant accept how mechanically forgiving valorant is.
Ainz_Ooal_Gown [#23]it is a team game not ffa bro. just like how tenz on c9 or yay on andbox were limited by their team
cope harder
BBL_Wtcn [#62]No one said EU was good at crossfire
Ita so dumb these takes lmao. Of course when regions don't invest in a game they're shit. Valorant is a fps shooter where it's popular and invested world wide. Will it stay that way ? No one knows but that's why competition is high atm. Look at cs and tell me it's not an EU and Brazil game ? Heck even with EU dominating somehow liquid from dead regions NA still top 4. Nice top level esports LOL. It's literally made for EU players to jerk themselves off cause they suck at other esports like valorant.
hiimnsk [#84]Dont use common sense here, people dont like it and cant accept how mechanically forgiving valorant is.
Nah lol you guys watching csgo an esports where eu players jerk themselves off cause they're the only ones playing it lmao. Also liquid from NA dead region still top 4 team with ex pro nitro who ppl said is washed up boomer. Nice top tier esports lmao
hekzy [#26]Well csgo isn't some random joke esport that people can switch from anywhere and be decent at. Wardell would struggle in ESEA main rn.
The joke is that csgo is an esports for eu fans and pros to feel good because they're the only region still playing it lmao. Somehow liquid from NA dead region still top 4. Man eu really think they're good in a noncompetitive esports internationally.
asdfgh [#60]only here dw
Even u know cs is boring lmao . Csgo fans so cringe legit no international competitions same eu teams Jerking themselves off and pretend it's a world wide esports. Somehow liquid from dead region NA still makes top 4 proves how shit the game and competition is.
This is just dumb. People still don't understand that it's a different game. There are players more suited to valorant and players more suited to CS. Nitr0 was trash at Val, came back to CS and is doing pretty well. Ethan was the best player on the EG roster that dominated CS for a while and is pretty avarage at Val. Being good at CS doesn't mean you are gonna be just as good at Valorant.
asdfgh [#36]thats exactly how i feel too,but u will still get down voted by delusional valorant fans because they dont wanna admit ur right even tho u explained it perfectly lol,but they made those changes for that exact reason to make the game easier and more casual compared to cs just like they did when they copied league from dota
Right and Dota is dead game compared to league. You valve fan boys are delusional af if u think that csgo is anything more than an EU and Brazil esports now. Fking liquid from dead region NA is top 4 somehow. It's a joke of an esports.
Ullyr [#90]Nah lol you guys watching csgo an esports where eu players jerk themselves off cause they're the only ones playing it lmao. Also liquid from NA dead region still top 4 team with ex pro nitro who ppl said is washed up boomer. Nice top tier esports lmao
I dont watch or play csgo for a long time now, but theres no denying csgo has a higher skill ceiling and is more mechanical. until val introduces spray patterns this will be the case.
aifqhifnakfnoiqu2oqmfa [#95]all NA pros went to valorant who couldn't play on Tier 1 level in CS except Twistzz and TL squad, and all EMEA teams are tier 2/3 CS pros who couldn't make it to tier 1 CS
FYI boaster was vlogger for CS before valorant came out
That doesn't prove shit lmao nitro was mid in valorant now on top 4 team in tier 1 cs. Fact that cs is an EU game and liquid from dead region NA sill top 4 proves how shit its gotten.
Easy_for_MWZERA [#93]This is just dumb. People still don't understand that it's a different game. There are players more suited to valorant and players more suited to CS. Nitr0 was trash at Val, came back to CS and is doing pretty well. Ethan was the best player on the EG roster that dominated CS for a while and is pretty avarage at Val. Being good at CS doesn't mean you are gonna be just as good at Valorant.
Nah csgo fan boys can't understand that they also can't understand that atm cs isn't popular world wide so competition from other regions other than EU is low.
georgegeddes [#86]weorge weddes moment proven https://twitter.com/GeorgeCGed/status/1539569382040412167
the audacity... That was your biggest L ever
Ullyr [#97]That doesn't prove shit lmao nitro was mid in valorant now on top 4 team in tier 1 cs. Fact that cs is an EU game and liquid from dead region NA sill top 4 proves how shit its gotten.
as valorant pros will do nothing for the next 5 months, take some time and watch RIO major and there u'll know how big CS is, and the reason why CS didn't get rolling in Asia was that they had a Chinese rip-off crossfire in Asia.
Ullyr [#97]That doesn't prove shit lmao nitro was mid in valorant now on top 4 team in tier 1 cs. Fact that cs is an EU game and liquid from dead region NA sill top 4 proves how shit its gotten.
Nitro was not mid in Valorant dude. Dont forget he also went from CS where he had a huge slump for nearly a year, came to val and in less than a year was 4th at an international event. The guy also played all roles, at a high level. Like, cs is an EU show compared to Na, but dont discredit that nitro was a good player at val
aifqhifnakfnoiqu2oqmfa [#100]as valorant pros will do nothing for the next 5 months, take some time and watch RIO major and there u'll know how big CS is, and the reason why CS didn't get rolling in Asia was that they had a Chinese rip-off crossfire in Asia.
Reason CS didn't get big in asia is because Valve tried overcharging the game at internet cafes. They killed their own scene in those countries.
Crossfire was just a more accessible game for people there.
Raevus [#102]Reason CS didn't get big in asia is because Valve tried overcharging the game at internet cafes. They killed their own scene in those countries.
Crossfire was just a more accessible game for people there.
Lol csgo uses terrorist and counter terrorist as well as bomb. Good luck making that sponsor friendly and popular world wide.
juno_VLR [#76]As far as the NA scene,
i’d argue that wardell has been just as consistent as yay. he hasn’t had a chance internationally, so I can’t comment on that, but wardell consistently carried tsm with all of their roster iterations.
Hahahahaha you are funny
Raevus [#101]Nitro was not mid in Valorant dude. Dont forget he also went from CS where he had a huge slump for nearly a year, came to val and in less than a year was 4th at an international event. The guy also played all roles, at a high level. Like, cs is an EU show compared to Na, but dont discredit that nitro was a good player at val
Yes lol just make up whatever narrative. He was mid and shit 100t had to change roster. Fact that liquid still doing well when NA is a dead region means cs has literally no competition atm. Cs fans was shitting on him so much until liquid start doing well now he's suddenly good and tier 1. Tell me how random an esports it is. Lmao full of recycled boomers.
Ullyr [#103]Lol csgo uses terrorist and counter terrorist as well as bomb. Good luck making that sponsor friendly and popular world wide.
considering it's the biggest FPS esport in history, and been going on for the psat 20 years, I'd say it's pretty popular around the world.
You have teams coming out of china, Singapore, japan, KR, etc. The game isn't non existent, just valve crippled the Asian scene by charging per pc, per month. that just caused internet cafes to not house valve games, as it wasn't worth it for them.
The fact the use terrorist and counter terrorist isn't the reason it's not popular. Hell, some of the biggest and most successful games in history have terrorists being apart of it. It's not that big of an issue as they tend to censor specific versions of the games for specific countries.
Raevus [#106]considering it's the biggest FPS esport in history, and been going on for the psat 20 years, I'd say it's pretty popular around the world.
You have teams coming out of china, Singapore, japan, KR, etc. The game isn't non existent, just valve crippled the Asian scene by charging per pc, per month. that just caused internet cafes to not house valve games, as it wasn't worth it for them.The fact the use terrorist and counter terrorist isn't the reason it's not popular. Hell, some of the biggest and most successful games in history have terrorists being apart of it. It's not that big of an issue as they tend to censor specific versions of the games for specific countries.
it was popular because it was the only good tactical fps out there. It fell off in many regions other than EU NA and brazil..nowadays branding is huge compared to back then and video games actually making casual audience. Those type of terminology only hurts its growth with today's audience.
Ullyr [#105]Yes lol just make up whatever narrative. He was mid and shit 100t had to change roster. Fact that liquid still doing well when NA is a dead region means cs has literally no competition atm. Cs fans was shitting on him so much until liquid start doing well now he's suddenly good and tier 1. Tell me how random an esports it is. Lmao full of recycled boomers.
You're the one making up a narritive bro lol
The guy went top4 at an international lan, losing to optic. They then replaced their igl, and then their coach. All at the time he took up igling and was their main entry. the guy was by far not mid at the time he left val. Saying he wasn't is just a lie and cope tbh.
In CS, he's not at t1 player. the guy is in the pocket of elige, naf, and yekindar. All of which have been performing well in T1 in CS for years. they're the only NA players who can still compete at a good level. I'm more surprised that oSee is doing well. Nitro, is by far one of the weakest players in t1 atm.
ALso people still shit on him for being bad mechanically. Nobody has defended him mechanics. the guy is worse than what steel is in valorant mechanically. Guy is rocking a .87 in the last 3 months.
Ullyr [#107]it was popular because it was the only good tactical fps out there. It fell off in many regions other than EU NA and brazil..nowadays branding is huge compared to back then and video games actually making casual audience. Those type of terminology only hurts its growth with today's audience.
It fell off in other regions because valve dont host events outside of EU. what investor wasnts to pay for a team, just to send them to EU. it sucks because Asia have/had some nice players that could shine if valve put any effort into other regions.
It's this reason I can see valorant passing CS esports. Riot are investing in every region right now, and they've had a great history with developing scenes in APAC, NA, and EU. It's why I'm more invested in val than CS aswell. CS I enjoy the esprots side, but it is bland when you watch the same teams face off at every event.
Ullyr [#91]The joke is that csgo is an esports for eu fans and pros to feel good because they're the only region still playing it lmao. Somehow liquid from NA dead region still top 4. Man eu really think they're good in a noncompetitive esports internationally.
csgo is a fair competitive game, with tremendous volume of tournaments, and two 1mil+ major tourneys a year... just happens that eu players are the very best and they get rewarded for their skill, eu players rule cs since early 2004 almost, you were probably not even born... when i saw asian people getting to the very end of the playoffs on a fps "major" tournament that was a redflag for me... you always sucked at fps games... this game is easy as hell for sure
Ainz_Ooal_Gown [#23]it is a team game not ffa bro. just like how tenz on c9 or yay on andbox were limited by their team
bro you yourself made the point "anyone can beat anyone" invalid
Ullyr [#94]Right and Dota is dead game compared to league. You valve fan boys are delusional af if u think that csgo is anything more than an EU and Brazil esports now. Fking liquid from dead region NA is top 4 somehow. It's a joke of an esports.
this is the most delusional valorant bias kid i've ever seen... probably couldnt perform good in any competitive fps until riot launched this tactical fps for kids to finally feel they are good at this kind of games... stick to lol and the otaku waifus mobas you play in your region
sebastianuy [#110]csgo is a fair competitive game, with tremendous volume of tournaments, and two 1mil+ major tourneys a year... just happens that eu players are the very best and they get rewarded for their skill, eu players rule cs since early 2004 almost, you were probably not even born... when i saw asian people getting to the very end of the playoffs on a fps "major" tournament that was a redflag for me... you always sucked at fps games... this game is easy as hell for sure
ok, go pro in this game bro! its easy as hell for sure
Engreloy [#53]These CS Joe elitists saying that Valorant is a RNG low skill ceiling competive game because some "minor region teams" are dominating the scene need to check a globe that EU is not the only region on Earth unlike in CS which is a one region tournament btw 😴
actually is a "RNG low skill ceiling competive game" because no one dominates nothing lol... no one could nor can achieve consistency, nor repeat what they've done before, just a few teams improved their results from tournament to tournament... I remember the overhyped sentinels and god tenz that had gone forgotten cause this is how this game will ever be.. if this game was fair and skill rewarding it would consist of EMEA vs BR/NA everytime, guess riot prevented the outcome while engineering this game... they need somehow to get people hooked to the game buying the skin packs cause the game itself sucks
Ullyr [#94]Right and Dota is dead game compared to league. You valve fan boys are delusional af if u think that csgo is anything more than an EU and Brazil esports now. Fking liquid from dead region NA is top 4 somehow. It's a joke of an esports.
pov:you have 0 idea about what ur talking about lol liquid literally has 3/5 the same players they had 3&4 years ago lol wtf does that have to do with anything also are you fucking retarded do you think hltv rank means something,also yes dota is dead af compared to league you are 100% right idk what ur point is but yeah
giantnutsack12345 [#113]ok, go pro in this game bro! its easy as hell for sure
bro i played like less than a year and was easily immortal... I never saw videogames as a job or as something that I had to full-time dedicate myself cause I wanted to pursue a career, but believe me if I had to pick a game to go that way valorant would be it... just by playing casually i did godlike things in this game and felt like i was in faceit level 5 while doing those, everything was so easy to adapt myself into than just by playing a couple strong agents and knowing my part I had it all done...
sebastianuy [#116]bro i played like less than a year and was easily immortal... I never saw videogames as a job or as something that I had to full-time dedicate myself cause I wanted to pursue a career, but believe me if I had to pick a game to go that way valorant would be it... just by playing casually i did godlike things in this game and felt like i was in faceit level 5 while doing those, everything was so easy to adapt myself into than just by playing a couple strong agents and knowing my part I had it all done...
Cause being good in rank means u do well in pro right ?
Ullyr [#90]Nah lol you guys watching csgo an esports where eu players jerk themselves off cause they're the only ones playing it lmao. Also liquid from NA dead region still top 4 team with ex pro nitro who ppl said is washed up boomer. Nice top tier esports lmao
nah they were still doing that when NA was playing because they were still trash lmao,also how do you have the audacity to say nitr0 being on liquid and them doing well means cs is easy when valorant top team igls have literally been boaster,fns,screaM,dephh,steel,shahzam and a fucking league of legends player who looks like he has Parkinsons when he aims but still manages to frag
asdfgh [#115]pov:you have 0 idea about what ur talking about lol liquid literally has 3/5 the same players they had 3&4 years ago lol wtf does that have to do with anything also are you fucking retarded do you think hltv rank means something,also yes dota is dead af compared to league you are 100% right idk what ur point is but yeah
Nah man lol cs is now an overhype eu only esports. Fact u can't see that means ur delusional. Liquid from dead region NA with boomer nitro still somehow top 4. Tell me why its not random ?cs had no competition in the tact fps space and got popular but cs now is just eu only. Mald more though.
sebastianuy [#112]this is the most delusional valorant bias kid i've ever seen... probably couldnt perform good in any competitive fps until riot launched this tactical fps for kids to finally feel they are good at this kind of games... stick to lol and the otaku waifus mobas you play in your region
Yes and stick to ur eu trash esports lmao. Cs was made for eu fans to feel good cause they suck at other esports lol.
Ullyr [#119]Nah man lol cs is now an overhype eu only esports. Fact u can't see that means ur delusional. Liquid from dead region NA with boomer nitro still somehow top 4. Tell me why its not random ?cs had no competition in the tact fps space and got popular but cs now is just eu only. Mald more though.
like i really dont get what ur trying to say tough,like how does it have no competition in the tact fps space you know,also i 100% see it NA went to valorant thats the part thats missing what are you saying man
Ullyr [#120]Yes and stick to ur eu trash esports lmao. Cs was made for eu fans to feel good cause they suck at other esports lol.
tell me one esport thats popular in both eu and na and na is better
asdfgh [#121]like i really dont get what ur trying to say tough,like how does it have no competition in the tact fps space you know,also i 100% see it NA went to valorant thats the part thats missing what are you saying man
NA left cause no orgs invested in NA scene lmao. Orgs saw valve as shitty company and didn't see any financial incentives to invest. Hence why players leave. Even twistz left to eu. You're dumb af if u can't see how valve killed off cs worldwide. You cs elitist are too stuck up to see only reason why EU dominate cs is cause cs been dead in many regions. After initial hype and popularity valve did shit to support the game.
sebastianuy [#116]bro i played like less than a year and was easily immortal... I never saw videogames as a job or as something that I had to full-time dedicate myself cause I wanted to pursue a career, but believe me if I had to pick a game to go that way valorant would be it... just by playing casually i did godlike things in this game and felt like i was in faceit level 5 while doing those, everything was so easy to adapt myself into than just by playing a couple strong agents and knowing my part I had it all done...
bros comparing immortal ranked and faceit level 5 (:skull:) to being a paid top tier professional lul. They are very different games, valorant is not a carbon copy of CS.
Ullyr [#123]NA left cause no orgs invested in NA scene lmao. Orgs saw valve as shitty company and didn't see any financial incentives to invest. Hence why players leave. Even twistz left to eu. You're dumb af if u can't see how valve killed off cs worldwide. You cs elitist are too stuck up to see only reason why EU dominate cs is cause cs been dead in many regions. After initial hype and popularity valve did shit to support the game.
thats true 100% i agree with that,but NA was never good to begin with tho,since the beginning of cs NA has been worse than eu by a mile
giantnutsack12345 [#124]bros comparing immortal ranked and faceit level 5 (:skull:) to being a paid top tier professional lul. They are very different games, valorant is not a carbon copy of CS.
? you are mixing things, dumbo what I said means that by playing valorant casually I achieved almost high elo.. the skill ceiling was non-existent after a decent ammount of hours, if I think of a game that i would want to invest my time into, to get noticed and maybe go pro this would be it, im not comparing anything just creating a ficticious scenario... between this and playing faceit till you get to a FPL level i would think the last to be virtually impossible for average joes, even dedicating to the game full-time... that's a big difference
Ullyr [#123]NA left cause no orgs invested in NA scene lmao. Orgs saw valve as shitty company and didn't see any financial incentives to invest. Hence why players leave. Even twistz left to eu. You're dumb af if u can't see how valve killed off cs worldwide. You cs elitist are too stuck up to see only reason why EU dominate cs is cause cs been dead in many regions. After initial hype and popularity valve did shit to support the game.
"Orgs saw valve as shitty company and didn't see any financial incentives to invest." lmao... thats not true... NA players didnt want to make a move to live in EU and compete against the best to develop and mantain their skills when pandemic hit.. (just twistzz did and it went well for him) instead, they sat down and then shortly after ran to this easy-paycheck game that is valorant... is not csgo's fault nor it's developers that one region is miles ahead of the others in terms of skill.. like the game is not designed to favor them in any way i dont know why u get so mad at cs being a game where EU teams are at the top of the line, they been since 1.6.. they deserved it, I dont see you being mad at asians winning every worlds in LoL... and every region is mega alive.. with new talents everytime... Latam has more tournaments than ever
asdfgh [#122]tell me one esport thats popular in both eu and na and na is better
Which esport is EU better in where both is popular? League is miles more popular in EU so comparison is useless, Apex theyre both similar in strength. Same goes for R6. RL NA migh even be better. Dota Ive no clue
wizardbot [#128]Which esport is EU better in where both is popular? League is miles more popular in EU so comparison is useless, Apex theyre both similar in strength. Same goes for R6. RL NA migh even be better. Dota Ive no clue
in rl NA definitely isn't better at all eu has more trophies but pretty equal but eu has been better recently,r6 eu has 5 more trophies but this year NA won 2 majors and eu 1 one,apex na completely washes eu no question,in league eu has still been more competent and a lot people say its because of mental only in recent years na scene has started to kinda shrink in esports wiewership and maybe playerbase no one knows and NA orgs are like full eu or asia teams witch was not always the case,in dota na has always been worse than china and emea but they had eg who were pretty good at one point
Ullyr [#91]The joke is that csgo is an esports for eu fans and pros to feel good because they're the only region still playing it lmao. Somehow liquid from NA dead region still top 4. Man eu really think they're good in a noncompetitive esports internationally.
My man EU dominated csgo even when all these washed bots that now rule valorant were competing in it. Remember that every valorant pro placing top4 in VCT was a tier5 punching bag in csgo.
Ainz_Ooal_Gown [#23]it is a team game not ffa bro. just like how tenz on c9 or yay on andbox were limited by their team
well i mean when u save awp every round after getting like 1 pic and ur team loses site ur like ok guys im gonna save my operator to the next round sorry!
you ain't gonna win doin that either
Ullyr [#92]Even u know cs is boring lmao . Csgo fans so cringe legit no international competitions same eu teams Jerking themselves off and pretend it's a world wide esports. Somehow liquid from dead region NA still makes top 4 proves how shit the game and competition is.
competition is shit cuz no other region is competitive
other region makes game competitive
still shit competition cuz other regions are being competitive???
?????
though I expect nothing from china
juno_VLR [#76]As far as the NA scene,
i’d argue that wardell has been just as consistent as yay. he hasn’t had a chance internationally, so I can’t comment on that, but wardell consistently carried tsm with all of their roster iterations.
tsm without wardell better
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