I really hope future matches can get more viewers bcos this is pathetic.. honestly riot needs to do SOMETHING because franchising alone is not gonna fix it. Take some notes from CS, a game that has been a staple in the esports scene for over a decade? ❌❌ nope(its what I’m envious about from CS because they have it so good over there) Riot just wants to be different for absolutely no reason.
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Bro only looks at the main channel and assumes those are the total views. There's the Japan channel with 45k and I also excluded Tarik and many other watch parties which takes the numbers to the hundreds of thousands. Also pipe the fuck down about views if you care so much about views go back to csgo and hltv please no one wants you here.
vievership is good tho? during ESL cologne for CS GO https://prnt.sc/ZJvf9r1uS2N5 and then YT on top of that
Okayyyyyy [#10]For an opening game it’s not actually that bad, if you combine YT and twitch and the Japanese and English stream, it’s >180k, and I’m not including the English co streams
Im sure the viewership with all the watchparties and yt will be close to 300k which is prettty decent
Edit- checked, its 310k
Okayyyyyy [#10]For an opening game it’s not actually that bad, if you combine YT and twitch and the Japanese and English stream, it’s >180k, and I’m not including the English co streams
Ngl I thought jp would have a lot more (for a derby + an opening game)
This is not csgo dude, every region has a valorant channel and even watch parties, valorant numbers are actually pretty fucking good right now, csgo numbers looks more impressive because theres only 3 big channels who stream the games, like the ESL channel, gaules and CIS streams then the viwership looks bigger because they centralize the numbers.
NG1nS [#14]hasanity viewership threads are bound to happen but for u to start it 😕 i expected better from u
Fr. I thought he was one of the sane ones
HaSanity [#13]Ngl I thought jp would have a lot more (for a derby + an opening game)
not really a derby (but should have more views for opening game) :D
NG1nS [#14]hasanity viewership threads are bound to happen but for u to start it 😕 i expected better from u
Yea just waiting to see how it goes, keeping an open mind but it’s just my initial thoughts.
HaSanity [#13]Ngl I thought jp would have a lot more (for a derby + an opening game)
True tbh, we have high standards for them, but I can only assume it’s bc NTH isn’t as big as Zeta, maybe the Apex tournament and the time that it airs in Japan on takes priority, but I’m sure their decider games in groups will see higher viewer counts
valulrantefanboy [#5]I'm so confused, You think viewership rn is bad ?
yeah it really is tbh cuz its japanese vs kr rn
jp viewer carrying hard rn imagine if nth not playing?
Funozito [#29]Do you guys have stocks on RIOT or something? Why do you care so fucking much about how much views a match in the morning is getting or not?
I care about the game and want it to succeed, can you blame me? (plus I actually do have stocks on riot)
Funozito [#29]Do you guys have stocks on RIOT or something? Why do you care so fucking much about how much views a match in the morning is getting or not?
ohh i guess everyone have the same timezone
hrwoahrwoahro [#3]why are u guys so obsessed with views
imagine an org paying a mil a year, grinding for months to get to the main stage, just to get less viewers than the big teams did during qualifier LMAO
getting views (and exposure) is how org justify their investment, people should rightly so worried about viewrship because it is showing how healthy the future of the esports will be
Funozito [#29]Do you guys have stocks on RIOT or something? Why do you care so fucking much about how much views a match in the morning is getting or not?
it is always morning somewhere in the world LMAO
stop using timezone as excuse when the tourney is held in the same timezone as one of the most popular region (EU)
AverageJoe [#34]english viewership is lower than NA qualifier lol
but that's to be expected tbh, there's not much hype this Masters compared to before
PPl watch costreams
eventonly [#39]PPl watch costreams
that's the same during qualifier, people also watch co-stream. what;s your point?
leleuu [#38]It's at 300k and it's almost midnight at both countries wdym
both countries....
only JP is watching lol, look at the KR stream viewership LMAO
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#31]ohh i guess everyone have the same timezone
Yes, that's how the flat earth works. /j
AverageJoe [#36]it is always morning somewhere in the world LMAO
stop using timezone as excuse when the tourney is held in the same timezone as one of the most popular region (EU)
I used it to get more of a hyperbolic effect, ik it's not morning everywhere.
AverageJoe [#41]both countries....
only JP is watching lol, look at the KR stream viewership LMAO
Still has more views than cs 🙂
hrwoahrwoahro [#3]why are u guys so obsessed with views
exactly these comments about viewership annoy me to hell.
AverageJoe [#35]imagine an org paying a mil a year, grinding for months to get to the main stage, just to get less viewers than the big teams did during qualifier LMAO
getting views (and exposure) is how org justify their investment, people should rightly so worried about viewrship because it is showing how healthy the future of the esports will be
no almost all orgs run on losses no matter who you count. the viewership doesnt make any difference.
Funozito [#29]Do you guys have stocks on RIOT or something? Why do you care so fucking much about how much views a match in the morning is getting or not?
Need to rely on something to have a chance in arguments against CS fans
Su-metal [#9]Bro only looks at the main channel and assumes those are the total views. There's the Japan channel with 45k and I also excluded Tarik and many other watch parties which takes the numbers to the hundreds of thousands. Also pipe the fuck down about views if you care so much about views go back to csgo and hltv please no one wants you here.
exactly
AverageJoe [#35]imagine an org paying a mil a year, grinding for months to get to the main stage, just to get less viewers than the big teams did during qualifier LMAO
getting views (and exposure) is how org justify their investment, people should rightly so worried about viewrship because it is showing how healthy the future of the esports will be
Views don't bring profit to organizations lmfao
Views bring sponsors, sponsors make up for losses spent on team development and salaries
Mfs out here jerking off to views like it's something that matters so much - if a team has no partners who provide them with finances, it doesn't matter how many views they get
Carthage_Er_Pola [#37]around 300k for a group stage match with one of the smallest regions viewership wise is not bad lmao
"ONE OF THE SMALLEST REGION" actual retard take
JP viewers literally double EMEA and NA
HaSanity [#23]Yea just waiting to see how it goes, keeping an open mind but it’s just my initial thoughts.
it doesn't makes sense tho, the opening game had over 300k viewers overall? So was that a real complain or are you just memeing?
jzatiq [#32]I think viewership does matter for the Esport. More viewers, more sponsors interested, more money invested, larger price pool, better production and better overall viewing experience
Not saying Valorant's gonna die as an esport but higher viewership will keep it alive for longer
What is the problem here? I think 300k+ is fine for a group stage match with relatively minor regions
1king [#57]What is the problem here? I think 300k+ is fine for a group stage match with relatively minor regions
Minor region take again. Can we leave this phrase back in 2021?
C310 [#56]it doesn't makes sense tho, the opening game had over 300k viewers overall? So was that a real complain or are you just memeing?
Jp is one of the biggest regions in val, it carried the viewership of this match, (with the favoured time zone) so yes, it should’ve been more honestly.
HaSanity [#58]Minor region take again. Can we leave this phrase back in 2021?
Especially since both Korea and Japan have higher support for esports in general.
HaSanity [#60]Jp is one of the biggest regions in val, it carried the viewership of this match, (with the favoured time zone) so yes, it should’ve been more honestly.
USA is also one of the biggest regions and everyone was asleep. I literally just woke up.
Olofboost [#52]Views don't bring profit to organizations lmfao
Views bring sponsors, sponsors make up for losses spent on team development and salaries
Mfs out here jerking off to views like it's something that matters so much - if a team has no partners who provide them with finances, it doesn't matter how many views they get
Ok so explain overwatch. That game died because of viewership + shitty patches. The sponsors where abundant and secure orgs were in that scene.
X_ae_A_12 [#64]Ok so explain overwatch. That game died because of viewership + shitty patches. The sponsors where abundant and secure orgs were in that scene.
Never in my life watched Overwatch
Have no clue what happened there
But I know that this website treats viewership like manna from heaven and it's goddamn annoying
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#55]"ONE OF THE SMALLEST REGION" actual retard take
JP viewers literally double EMEA and NA
How come you think he's on about JP and not KR?
Pretty sure everyone knows the JP viewership is probably the most consistent next to NA.
KR viewership, is lacklustre compared to how good their top teams are.
HaSanity [#60]Jp is one of the biggest regions in val, it carried the viewership of this match, (with the favoured time zone) so yes, it should’ve been more honestly.
it was like 10pm for JP on a sunday, I kinda doubt that we should expect high viewership for them on the opening match.
LouBag [#63]NA just woke up.
Numbers will rise
Im sorry to burst ur bubble but viewership has been carried by jp and turkey since forever with na fans only watching SEN lol
KoreanOverlord [#68]Im sorry to burst ur bubble but viewership has been carried by jp and turkey since forever with na fans only watching SEN lol
true lmao
symbols07 [#49]no almost all orgs run on losses no matter who you count. the viewership doesnt make any difference.
they make money from ponzi schemes
valulrantefanboy [#5]I'm so confused, You think viewership rn is bad ?
these dumb kids thinks english streams is the only thing that counts as viewership
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#26]yeah it really is tbh cuz its japanese vs kr rn
jp viewer carrying hard rn imagine if nth not playing?
wont have to imagine pretty soon :)
hellohello139 [#6]dead game csgo bettew
go to twitch directory and sort by highest viewers, fcking csgo is below valorant OMEGALUL, even skin gambling cant carry csgo
AverageJoe [#40]that's the same during qualifier, people also watch co-stream. what;s your point?
The entire NA qualifier had a peak of 200k, and way less average.
Day 1 of Copenhagen had 438k peak and 300k Avg.
This is already more than IEM Cologne which has 330k peak and 186k avg.
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2022
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#26]yeah it really is tbh cuz its japanese vs kr rn
jp viewer carrying hard rn imagine if nth not playing?
Nah the peak for today was from BR
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
Kxbsidb [#74]Bro, I think still japan is carrying viewership
Nope BR is this time
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
Olofboost [#52]Views don't bring profit to organizations lmfao
Views bring sponsors, sponsors make up for losses spent on team development and salaries
Mfs out here jerking off to views like it's something that matters so much - if a team has no partners who provide them with finances, it doesn't matter how many views they get
i mean if the game isnt getting views then sponsors wont come because they wont get the exposure
1mBor3d [#79]just wait until NA LCQ theres gonna be at least 1 game with double the views it should have
SEN prob getting 500k for shroud debut
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#80]SEN prob getting 500k for shroud debut
youre joking right? literally gonna be at least 700k peak and if they make it far guarantees at least 1 mil peak views and thats not even copium
AverageJoe [#35]imagine an org paying a mil a year, grinding for months to get to the main stage, just to get less viewers than the big teams did during qualifier LMAO
getting views (and exposure) is how org justify their investment, people should rightly so worried about viewrship because it is showing how healthy the future of the esports will be
Views do not justify a million dollar investment lol. Whatever you smoking stop it. If that’s the case CSGO should be filled with orgs from NA, Asia & SA lol. Cuz you know… Views
Let’s stop the dumbass responses people.
eventonly [#77]Nope BR is this time
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
BR always Carries viewership when a BR team is playing
jackb2016 [#83]IEM cologne was getting so much more viewers while the VCT games were going on…should not happen.
VALORANT MASTERS: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
CSGO IEM COLOGNE:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2022
Valorant peak 438k, avg 300k on just day 1
Cs peak 330k, avg 186k at the end of group stage.
MetaIrony [#73]go to twitch directory and sort by highest viewers, fcking csgo is below valorant OMEGALUL, even skin gambling cant carry csgo
Bro ppl act like valorant is dfan base when it tops and compete with other shooters regularly. csgo apart from being fun to watch competitive is pretty much dead with the casual fanbase.
HaSanity [#13]Ngl I thought jp would have a lot more (for a derby + an opening game)
Nth just not as popular as zeta. If zeta went you bet most of Japan gaming community would be watching.
eventonly [#85]VALORANT MASTERS: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
CSGO IEM COLOGNE:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2022Valorant peak 438k, avg 300k on just day 1
Cs peak 330k, avg 186k at the end of group stage.
you aren't taking into account that there was 2 games going on at a time but ok lol
jackb2016 [#90]you aren't taking into account that there was 2 games going on at a time but ok lol
So the overall viewership should me more right? No one is talking about a match but the entire viewership, but keep being delusional I guess.
Keep coping
eventonly [#75]The entire NA qualifier had a peak of 200k, and way less average.
Day 1 of Copenhagen had 438k peak and 300k Avg.
This is already more than IEM Cologne which has 330k peak and 186k avg.https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2022
I am sorry break it to you at least watch before saying anything. Those numbers are of playing not cologne. They are qualifiers of cologne bro.
eventonly [#85]VALORANT MASTERS: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2022-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
CSGO IEM COLOGNE:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2022Valorant peak 438k, avg 300k on just day 1
Cs peak 330k, avg 186k at the end of group stage.
Bro before saying anything use ur brain and read. Its clearly written cologne playins. which is qualifier for the event. Lol bro at least read. i know u r kid but still
Olofboost [#52]Views don't bring profit to organizations lmfao
Views bring sponsors, sponsors make up for losses spent on team development and salaries
Mfs out here jerking off to views like it's something that matters so much - if a team has no partners who provide them with finances, it doesn't matter how many views they get
you literally just proved yourself wrong. No one is getting nitpicky here, the point is more viewers = more money in the scene
VibsTV [#93]Bro before saying anything use ur brain and read. Its clearly written cologne playins. which is qualifier for the event. Lol bro at least read. i know u r kid but still
Well, its updated now and still Day 1 of Copenhagen beats the playins and groupstage of IEM Cologne.
The group stage has now finished and yet the numbers of both peak and avg is less than Copenhagen.
IEM Dallas had less numbers because both FaZe and NaVi got eliminated, but I expect the finals numbers to be good at least.
VibsTV [#92]I am sorry break it to you at least watch before saying anything. Those numbers are of playing not cologne. They are qualifiers of cologne bro.
It has been updated and Nope, Day 1 of Valorant masters CPH still beats both avg and peak of IEM cologne.
Kinda sad since Furia, 00nation sprout and imperail have been eliminated. No more views from Gaules, it's that easy to see.
JustHunter [#94]you literally just proved yourself wrong. No one is getting nitpicky here, the point is more viewers = more money in the scene
Doesn't mean we should be so obsessed about it
People give the impression that they won't watch a certain esport just because that esport doesn't accumulate a lot of views
eventonly [#96]It has been updated and Nope, Day 1 of Valorant masters CPH still beats both avg and peak of IEM cologne.
Kinda sad since Furia, 00nation sprout and imperail have been eliminated. No more views from Gaules, it's that easy to see.
Obviously brazil is huge part of csgo history. So less views if no Brazilian teams. But if without sen look at valo views and if Brazilian/japan/kru eliminate then less views as well. Also, Top3 games out of the top 5 have navi and not Brazilian teams. So.
eventonly [#95]Well, its updated now and still Day 1 of Copenhagen beats the playins and groupstage of IEM Cologne.
The group stage has now finished and yet the numbers of both peak and avg is less than Copenhagen.
IEM Dallas had less numbers because both FaZe and NaVi got eliminated, but I expect the finals numbers to be good at least.
Bro IEM Dallas is not even in the top10 events of the year. No heroic no navi ence with standin, and so many other teams struggled because of USA complications.
eventonly [#91]So the overall viewership should me more right? No one is talking about a match but the entire viewership, but keep being delusional I guess.
Keep coping
it only takes into account one match at a time...when the peak said 330k viewers...that was only taking into account the imperial match. Im not trying to cope im just saying :/
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