So wait hes transphobic or smth?
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Here's the link. Didn't know he was based like that.
Leo: Who's the man in giantX
Ardis: its jademwah and jduh
Leo: Yea they both are dudes bruh
Ardis: it's a dude with a double neck bro
Leo: nah nah
If you listen to the clip and not just copy and paste the horrible twitch subtitles, this is what was said
Leo: “Who’s the bumblebees in GX bro”
Ardiis: “Jademwha of course, and”
Leo: “One more bro”
Ardiis: “I think its Jduh no?”
3rd person: “Yeah they’re dudes”
Leo: “The duelist…”
Ardiis: “Chat says its adora”
Leo: “…is quad neg[ative] bro”
Ardiis: “The duelist is double neg[ative] by the way”
EDIT: second clip
Ardiis: “I wanna not get banned but we need a name for them”
Leo: “Super sub, how many super subs they’ve got”
Ardiis: “Super subs is also a good one”
Leo: “Super subs. These are super bro”
Ardiis reading chat: “Just the names are not worth the drama”
Ardiis: “We could call them game changers as well, like they are game changers, you know what I mean they do change the game”
Leo: “Why is someone named indian oracle”
Ardiis reading chat: “How much for you to change genders and play in game changers salary-wise?”
Ardiis: “I would never do that. Actually, I might do that. If times get tough i probably will do that. But listen: not in the next couple of weeks at least”
i mean they wanted a specific term for non-binary/trans players since theyre not familiar with the trans lingo so leo named them super subs hinting at the fact that they on average are better statistically than biological women
i guess the game changers bubble on twitter didnt like that they seperated them from biological women with their terminology but at the end of the day it only a small group of people that found it offensive
I mean we all knew ardiis was a horrible person already right? Follows andrew tate (who was recently arrested for having child sexual abuse materials) and antivaxxers
Leo being a bad person is not surprising since he is from the east
you got downvoted because you said "not surprising since he is from the east" hello?
so not knowing where he's from trumps the fact that they support child predators got it
most emea players are probably transphobic and/or racist, leo just got exposed
wow. did not see that coming. now i can't glaze him.
but again this is what happens when you hang around with ard0ss
like everyone has different opinions why u gotta say them out loud lmao
"if you dont share the same politics as me you deserve to be thrown into the woodchipper"
why are chronically online people like this?
Don't disagree don't agree mate you just gotta realize when you are a person with a huge following you can't be going around saying such outlandish stuff mate. I don't think there should be as much outrage as there is over the situation but at the same time I do see this being a big deal because of how popular Leo is in the Valorant scene. It just the unfortunate reality we live in you have to bite your tongue on very controversial topics when you have a big following
You're not wrong at all. I think the outrage about this is largely nonsensical and if you read through the lines you see how chronically online people are. BUT considering Leo and FNC's popularity and how progressive of an audience val has he probably should have kept his mouth shut.
Yeah I agree I doubt he will ever compete again but he is pretty much fucked his chances up. It's just he shouldn't have said it but the things he said shouldn't have gotten so popular and sparked such a outrage
to them its not politics, its a sort of disrespect to who they are as people
honestly I don't care what you identify as, but your life should resolve around more than something like a gender identity
when you are afforded different opportunities and treated as a glass vase person who cannot handle minor disrespect simply because you don't identify with traditional gender roles, I find it kinda stupid
Most people need some kind of identity to cling to, and for a lot of people, that's a huge part of who they are. It can be religion, or your country or city, or gender identity, or belonging to some kind of cultural group. It's hard to go through life when you feel like you're just nobody.
And the harder it is to find acceptance for your identity from people around you, the more your life will revolve around that fight for acceptance of course. If you look at people like Malala Yousafzai, her entire personality and life revolves around fighting for female education. Not because it's the only thing she could possibly care about in life, but because there is so much resistance.
The more social acceptance there is for a specific group, the less people's lives will revolve around belonging to that group, that's completely natural.
And I think it's kinda difficult to say it's "minor" disrespect. For someone who's never made that experience, it's really hard to understand what it feels like to constantly have your identity questioned at every point in your life by every person around you. To get weird looks every time you go outside, to have people discuss whether you should have rights online, to have laws passed all around the world that make your life harder, etc etc etc.
I think a lot of religious people would consider it "major" disrespect if you insulted their god. I think that's quite comparable. Yet society in general seems to have less of a problem simply not being an ass around religious people than they do around trans people. I don't think god exists, yet I don't think we should ban churches, and I don't go around calling religious people sick, twisted paedophiles who should be banned from public life.
Either way, the best way to make sure trans people don't make their whole life revolve around their gender identity is to just accept them, stop banning medical procedures, and treat them with the same respect we give everyone else. Then it'll go down automatically.
I think this comparison is not fair at all.
Gender identity and it's enforcement is just too obtrusive to casually accept for most people. Gender identity REQUIRES social validation in a way that no other identity, ethnic, religious, ideological, etc requires. People accepting who they are requires their worldview to change fundamentally. I can accept an anarchist existing without agreeing with the ideology. That is the fundamental gap.
Religion is an entire world view, culture is a way of life rooted in traditions and history, ideology shapes society. These actually have weight behind them and shape everything you are as a human in entirety. You don't need outward validation to believe in a religion, to adhere to a political ideology, or to enjoy your ethnic culture.
"The more social acceptance there is for a specific group, the less people's lives will revolve around belonging to that group, that's completely natural." This is just completely false. Despite a strong social acceptance: Monks dedicate their lives to their religions. Ordinary believers still pray and worship regularly and shape their schedules around it. People celebrate ethnic festivals year round. Political ideology literally shapes people's entire lives. Acceptance only made it easier to revolve their lives around it.
Fighting for a change is not the same as forcing your personal self identification upon people around you. A line needs to be drawn.
And at what point do draw this line between personal preferences and beliefs kept to oneself, and an identity that needs to be accommodated by society? How do you know we haven't crossed that line?
TLDR: gender identity is a personal label and should not be enforceable in society as something that matters to others, just like every other personal label
this does not mean I agree with discrimination and hatefulness, I just view it as not important at all
I agree with you. I think they are focusing too much on the hates they are getting instead of just living their life. People who are hateful towards them will not change their mind no matter what they do. They should stop seeking validation and acceptance from others. All of these is worthless because self worth and self respect is all you should need at the end of the day.
he is a fraud
all he did was farm ecos and exits for his kd
covid was just an excuse
Damn he played with Boaster and he's transphobic? Did he fake COVID to get away from Boaster? Is this why they fell off after 2023 because he couldn't handle Boaster's zesty energy anymore?
How was buddy anti-trans while running around ingame taking orders from most effeminate guy in VCT
Glad there are still normal people on this site. It’s crazy how you get criticized by not going along with someone else’s delusion.
leo didnt even say anything, i watched all the clips and it was nothing burgers
he looks like a trans himself check his tweeted photo LOOOL if not trans hes gay 100%
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