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✅EWC is not mickey ✅

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sentinelmain377
  1. The Esports World Cup is a global, S-Tier Tournament - https://liquipedia.net/valorant/S-Tier_Tournaments
  2. $1.25mil Prize Pool for 2025, $2mil Prize Pool for 2026 (both greater than a Masters event)
  3. The teams that attended the Esports World Cup 2025 qualified through VCT Stage 1 or the EWC qualifiers. There were 0 invitations (unlike RedBull and other off-seasons). The best teams of the world at the time were playing and competing for the 1.25mil prize pool. Similar EWC qualification stage for 2026.
  4. ALL VCT teams have EWC as a part of their schedule a year in advance (unlike other non-VCT tournaments). It is unserious to consider EWC as an irrelevant tournament. ALL teams have plans for it before the season starts.
  5. Objectively, EWC is a valid tournament (equal to a Masters at the minimum). Politics do not decide whether the tournament is mickey or not.
  6. EWC is a yearly tournament (2025 onwards until 2028 minimum). This is not a one-time tournament.
  7. Format:
    Single-Elim Playoffs & Grand Finals (The EWC Grand Final is more fair than any VCT Grand Final because there is no 2-map ban advantage for either of the finalists)
    Consolation Final (to ensure the 3rd and 4th place teams get the prize money they deserve)
    Group Stage: All winner/loser/decider matches are a best of 3 (same group stage format as VCT Champions).
  8. Rewards better-performing regions: (EMEA did the best at EWC 2025, so they get an additional slot at EWC 2026 which is taken from the worst-performing region at EWC 2025 (China)).
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sideshowsbaldhead
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allat + memea 3 years no trophy

#25
koalanoob1
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downvoted by EU chud

last time EU lift trophy, FNC Leo is still playing
let that sink in

#28
ddbent
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Deserved for being a American turbo chud

#36
sideshowsbaldhead
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unfortunate time zone to be posting this but doesn’t make it any less true, emea is a farmer region and the only reason their fans pretend to care about ewc is because it’s the only event fraudulent enough for them to win

#41
Effluxi
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without farmers you don't eat son

#52
sideshowsbaldhead
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trust me brother i eat good hatewatching bumea every event

#32
Zelestia
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Fraudmea downfragging so hard rn 😹

#3
SENfns
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said like a true EMEA fan

#4
mxnu
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Not part of the VCT Circuit = mickey

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sentinelmain377
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"Not part of the VCT Circuit" means "Not part of the VCT Circuit." It doesn't mean "Mickey"

Also EWC is only for VCT-Teams.

#45
EVRLONG
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single elim brackets, plus some games not being streamed can give certain teams advantage on anti strat.

It;s a mickey immoral tourney

#54
irahashax
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i guess single elim cs tourneys are mickey?

#66
Wolfed
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cs is a different game

hope this helped

#67
irahashax
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so i guess all single elim tourneys next year once we get 3rd party TO's like cs will be mickey

#61
DE3A
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L

#5
Linardinssssss
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True

#6
Conceit
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When I can tell who posted it before clicking on the thread, it might be a sign you need a new shtick

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sentinelmain377
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ye i made anyone who clicked this know with the check marks

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Conceit
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That's true actually you do love your check marks, I'd probably do the same if I made these kind of posts tbh

#8
shrike-
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1/8

#10
king_bob
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lock//in, masters madrid, masters reykjavik (2021) > ewc

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sentinelmain377
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LOCK//IN = 0.8
8-Team Masters = 0.8
10-Team / 12-Team / 16-Team Masters = 1.0
Esports World Cup = 1.0
Champions = 1.5
  1. AMER (1x 8-Team Masters, 1x 10-Team Masters, 1x 12-Team Masters, 3x Champions) = 7.30
  2. EMEA (1x LOCK//IN, 2x 12-Team Masters, 1x EWC, 1x 16-Team Masters, 1x Champions) = 6.30
  3. PAC (1x 8-Team Masters, 3x 12-Team Masters) = 3.80
  4. CN (1x Champions) = 1.5
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king_bob
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😊

#15
SENfns
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he said 1 sentence and you pulled out a whole database just to prove americas is the best region

#26
PP12123213123
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do the last three years

#48
inuis
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noooo dont ruin the narrative of them being a remotely competitive region!!!! they won champs in 2021 remember :))

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sentinelmain377
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Last Three Years (2023, 2024, 2025 incl. EWC, 2026 Santiago)

Trophies:

  • PAC 4 > AMER 3 = EMEA 3 > CN 1

Grand Finals Appearances:

  • EMEA 8 > PAC 7 > AMER 6 > CN 1

Top 4 Appearances:

  • AMER 16 > PAC 14 > EMEA 11 > CN 3

Playoffs Appearances:

  • AMER 24 > EMEA 22 > PAC 20 > CN 10

EMEA is a competitive region

#58
OhDrxw
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now how many of those were from fnatic

#21
ILikeEsports
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well yeah obviously

#11
ddbent
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W just the huge prize pool alone makes it THE tournament to win

#14
teilwal
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5/8 flair made it too obvious

#17
femboyhater
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what if memea didnt win ewc last year would u still be doing all this

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sentinelmain377
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I was saying it before EWC 2025 started lmao. The event is objectively not mickey. All the haters are stupid

evidence (before EWC ended):

  1. https://www.vlr.gg/509153/if-emea-wins-ewc/#20
  2. https://www.vlr.gg/511870/tournament-type-ranking/#1
  3. and there is a lot more before the EWC Semifinals
#24
Conceit
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Nah he's a day one, I disagree with him a lot but he's nothing if not principled and consistent

#18
dododo_de_dadada
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the players will say the exact same thing and are actually serious about it but the cockroaches on VLR will tell you otherwise lmao 😂😂😂😂

#19
tubelight
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Ai

#22
sentinelmain377
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Made this 1 year ago. Some edits done today

#23
tubelight
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Bro holy fuck u got the downvote mafia with u

#30
sentinelmain377
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lol

#27
dimmed
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I agree EWC isn't mickey, whilst I don't the achievement holds the same weight as say masters 2 due to scheduling issues I do think it's close and not something you can just disregard because of the ethical issues

#29
iAnvayZz
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5 teams from emea 3 from CN, shit is serious

#31
teilwal
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both regions are cheeks brev

#33
Eoxlia
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So, about 7.

Are we really arguing Single Elimination is not Mickey Mouse? The least stable format of all time?

Also, the whole tournament is played on online server, EVEN the "lan" part is actually played online. So unless you want to argue that online tournament are worth the same as LAN tournament, in which case, why even do LAN? this is a Mickey Mouse part

I also care about the other part and won't watch EWC, but technically if those 2 point were fixed I'd call it a "real" tournament that I still won't watch

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Ryandr
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Lot of ewc glazers and defenders lately in vlr out of nowhere lol. So many downvotes for any post calling out ewc in a very short period of time. I am not talking about you.
Just curious how much they pay is. I would like to join in as well.

Also ngl ewc is never going to be worth as much as masters as long as they don't fix the schedule. The event is just not fair for 2nd and 3rd seed masters teams. Also the main event ending like 4 days before 2nd stage is so bad. Should have held it after champs rather than enc.

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vipermolly
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EWC is Mickey

#37
Firebug
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politics aside, it is absolutely mickey mouse unless they remove the bo1s that there were last year

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sentinelmain377
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the existence of bo1s doesnt matter cuz the bo1s were not elimination matches and the winner/loser/decider matches of all groups were all bo3

also i think bo1s are gone now, but still (why do they matter if groups is double-elim)

#38
yungbasel
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stop trying to convince losers about what it is or isn't and just watch and enjoy it for yourself

#39
Th3Bad
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delusion

#40
Ranger45
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holy advertisement

#43
cluful
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single elimination -> mickey mouse

#62
DE3A
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Then FIFA world cup is micky 😂😂😂😂😂

#44
Barss
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God damn you cry abotu the same shit every month please get a life

#46
Shadow_Monarch
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Didnt know about the worst-performing region losing a slot, thought TH just went through since they won 2025.
Thats cool, and the money is great.

But wtf is this bullshit of not streaming Group Stages then.

#47
Warlordwibz
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The reason why its NOT mickey mouse is because no one else can replicate things like this. If US or China can replicate it THEN it becomes mickey mouse.

#49
SudokuDude
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I read the name and it kicked in

#50
SusCat04
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ewc is a nice off season event we should be thankful for this so we can see more games

#51
ipppppi
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Sooner or later, I feel like riot is gonna bend the knee to EWC and make it officially considered as past trophy. I mean it's a lot of money and with next few years tournament being more open in general. Regardless, I can see his point tho.

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Wingull
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brother if teams are posting threads like these https://x.com/BBL_esports/status/2057839960003129426?s=20 because there's no real documentation of the event then you cannot be arguing it's a real competitive event

#55
king_bob
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LMFAO

#57
Wingull
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it is a really funny thread ill give them that, some of the "show how a clutch kinda looked using valoplant" stuff is hilarious

its also very indicative of EWC not being serious whatsoever

#59
Akhmyed
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most advanced off season tournament, approved

#60
GodAwfulGod
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The reason it's mickey mouse is because it has shit production, teams playing with subs or teams who have just rebuilt or are in the middle of rebuilding, the teams who have made London not trying nearly as hard to make ewc allowing for a team that otherwise shouldn't have made it in and then there's the fact that it happens right after london and before stage 2 meaning a bunch of teams are just going to use strats used at london rather than new strats.

#63
Marii
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I knew who posted it without even clicking

It’s just a high prize pool off-season tournament man nothing more nothing less

#64
V0sotros
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EWC holds weight for circuits where there is no official first party supported scene like CS, but for scenes like League of Legends and Valorant there is no real reason to give it any weight when we already have official riot sponsored tournaments and trophies to compete for. Plus its really horribly integrated into the current calendar where it happens between one of the breaks in the season instead of in the offseason and it incentives teams to take it less seriously to prepare for actual VCT competition

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telegrxm
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all single elim is mickey imo i will only care if they produce very entertaining games

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mondely
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give up sentinelmain, u made this same point too many times already

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