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Alfa vs Less

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#1
pugz

Can we revive the debate again

#2
yarlo
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alfa on top

#34
glittering_yard
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Less vs Alfajer

Less vs Alfajer Lockin
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Less 1.26 > 0.96 Alfajer
Less +20 > +7 Alfajer

Less vs Alfajer Champions 2023
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
Less 1.19 > 1.18 Alfajer
Less +9 > +5 Alfajer
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
Less 1.08 > 0.83 Alfajer
Less +2 > -4 Alfajer

Less vs Alfajer EMEA Stage 1 2025
https://www.vlr.gg/459836/team-vitality-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w2
Less 1.00 > 0.79 Alfajer
Less +5 > -7 Alfajer

Less 4 - 0 Alfajer

Less: 1 Champions trophy (World Champion)
Alfajer: 0 Champions trophies (NOT a World Champion, eliminated by Less)

#39
Meinipo
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No one cares about h2h. Less was irrelevant last 2 years

#43
pugz
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so Derke is a shit player now?

#45
Meinoplu
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Nope he's not shit. But he's fallen behind in all time comparisons

#53
LightningIFY
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what about all the internationals which alfa has attended and less hasnt?
longevity matters lil br

#3
Marii
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No

#4
noahkraken
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Alfa is historically better but Less does get underappreciated sometimes

#5
Raijin05
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If Less can make a deep international run

#6
I_LOVE_LESS
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alfajer is nowhere near as good as Less and he never has been

#8
Marii
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Less never had a peak as high as Tokyo and will never

#16
glittering_yard
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Masters?

Less is a World Champion and eliminated Alfajer at Champions beating him twice

#21
I_LOVE_LESS
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and alfajer has never been better than Less when they've played eachother

#26
Meinipo
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No one fucking cares about h2h

#42
Marii
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That’s like saying curry is better than LeBron because it’s 3-1 in finals

#50
I_LOVE_LESS
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except bron played better in those series so not really

#48
my-dad-ate-my-toes
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I don't think 4 games in 2 players' 4 year long careers are what should settle the debate

#12
LocoMonteiro
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Alfajers toronto run was more impactful than everything Less has done since 2023

#33
g2gcHATER
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they put less on a trash team in the worst region of all, and expect him do something?

#38
LocoMonteiro
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So EMEA is trash but the best Sentinel in the world couldnt farm it? i know you are clinically stupid but even you gotta agree that doesnt make sense

#22
Meinipo
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Less is not even close to Alfa

#24
my-dad-ate-my-toes
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The glaze must end some day

#7
sentinelmain377
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yes we can. but for now, Alfa is better overall

anyways:

  • Game Sense: nAts > Less > Alfajer
  • Success: Alfajer > Less > nAts
  • Aim: ???
#10
themaniel
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Who invited nAts 😭😭😭😭

#11
sentinelmain377
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top-tier sentinel

alfa: vandal
less: vandal
nats: phantom

nats: 1 mvp
alfa: 1 mvp
less: 0 mvp

nats: #1 player of 2021
alfa/less: not #1 player of any year

he is competitive with the other 2

#20
Rakshy
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Bro idk how to tell you since time is really a bitch, but 2021 was 5 years ago

#23
I_LOVE_LESS
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nats was not the #1 player of 2021

#27
sentinelmain377
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terrible ragebait

#28
I_LOVE_LESS
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yeah ur post was really bad ragebait

#13
Rakshy
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The only game sense that Nats have is how to get grouped in an international

#15
destroylonely
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Movement:Less>>>
Aim: Equal

#9
Opleism
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Just because 1 game? Less was irrelevant last 2 years. Alfa is far ahead of him

#14
jawn
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less clears him on the matchup but alfa all-time better cause 2024-25

#17
Meinipo
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Alfajer Toronto > Less whole career. I dont even mention Tokyo

#18
themaniel
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Son 😭

#19
Meinipo
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im not even wrong? Where was Less in 24-25?

#29
alienista1
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he literally had an international performance in 2024 that outdid alfajer toronto rating

#32
pugz
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2022 = Less was better
2023 = tie
2024 = both played mid, Alfa had a better team and international sucess, Less had better stats
2025 = Alfa was better

#36
mangomango
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2023 tie??? Alfa hard clears sorry

#40
pugz
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Less was better on Lock IN and Champions

Alfajer was better on Tokyo

Less won al H2H when they played (except lock in final, even then Less played better)

#44
Opleism
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Who won 2 trophies? Who was the MVP? Are you kidding me?

#41
Meinipo
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2023 alfa is definitely better

#35
themaniel
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i agree that alfajer is a better player

alfajer toronto was not better than less champs 2022

#25
Anaklusmoss
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alfa >

#30
koldamentafan
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Alfa is top 4 player oat

#31
I_LOVE_LESS
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and Less is a top1 player of all time

#37
themaniel
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top 2

#46
g2gcHATER
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maybe from memea

#47
dimmed
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less is one of the all time greats but alfa has just more opportunities to shine. People make fun of nAts for "not doing anything" since 2021 so by that logic Alfa > less

#49
AkameMNT
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What's up with this Less glaze cuz they won 2 games??? I thought we all left him or smth

#51
mangomango
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Why? Bcuz of 1 game? Alfajer all time clears

#52
t0t0_wolff
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l0ss?? That guy who played for our retirement home last year

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