Can we revive the debate again
Alfa vs Less
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yes we can. but for now, Alfa is better overall
anyways:
- Game Sense: nAts > Less > Alfajer
- Success: Alfajer > Less > nAts
- Aim: ???
I_LOVE_LESS [#6]alfajer is nowhere near as good as Less and he never has been
Less never had a peak as high as Tokyo and will never
Just because 1 game? Less was irrelevant last 2 years. Alfa is far ahead of him
sentinelmain377 [#7]yes we can. but for now, Alfa is better overall
anyways:
- Game Sense: nAts > Less > Alfajer
- Success: Alfajer > Less > nAts
- Aim: ???
Who invited nAts 😭😭😭😭
themaniel [#10]Who invited nAts 😭😭😭😭
top-tier sentinel
alfa: vandal
less: vandal
nats: phantom
nats: 1 mvp
alfa: 1 mvp
less: 0 mvp
nats: #1 player of 2021
alfa/less: not #1 player of any year
he is competitive with the other 2
I_LOVE_LESS [#6]alfajer is nowhere near as good as Less and he never has been
Alfajers toronto run was more impactful than everything Less has done since 2023
sentinelmain377 [#7]yes we can. but for now, Alfa is better overall
anyways:
- Game Sense: nAts > Less > Alfajer
- Success: Alfajer > Less > nAts
- Aim: ???
The only game sense that Nats have is how to get grouped in an international
sentinelmain377 [#7]yes we can. but for now, Alfa is better overall
anyways:
- Game Sense: nAts > Less > Alfajer
- Success: Alfajer > Less > nAts
- Aim: ???
Movement:Less>>>
Aim: Equal
Marii [#8]Less never had a peak as high as Tokyo and will never
Masters?
Less is a World Champion and eliminated Alfajer at Champions beating him twice
Meinipo [#17]Alfajer Toronto > Less whole career. I dont even mention Tokyo
Son 😭
sentinelmain377 [#11]top-tier sentinel
alfa: vandal
less: vandal
nats: phantomnats: 1 mvp
alfa: 1 mvp
less: 0 mvpnats: #1 player of 2021
alfa/less: not #1 player of any yearhe is competitive with the other 2
Bro idk how to tell you since time is really a bitch, but 2021 was 5 years ago
Marii [#8]Less never had a peak as high as Tokyo and will never
and alfajer has never been better than Less when they've played eachother
I_LOVE_LESS [#6]alfajer is nowhere near as good as Less and he never has been
Less is not even close to Alfa
sentinelmain377 [#11]top-tier sentinel
alfa: vandal
less: vandal
nats: phantomnats: 1 mvp
alfa: 1 mvp
less: 0 mvpnats: #1 player of 2021
alfa/less: not #1 player of any yearhe is competitive with the other 2
nats was not the #1 player of 2021
I_LOVE_LESS [#6]alfajer is nowhere near as good as Less and he never has been
The glaze must end some day
I_LOVE_LESS [#21]and alfajer has never been better than Less when they've played eachother
No one fucking cares about h2h
I_LOVE_LESS [#23]nats was not the #1 player of 2021
terrible ragebait
sentinelmain377 [#27]terrible ragebait
yeah ur post was really bad ragebait
Meinipo [#19]im not even wrong? Where was Less in 24-25?
he literally had an international performance in 2024 that outdid alfajer toronto rating
koldamentafan [#30]Alfa is top 4 player oat
and Less is a top1 player of all time
Meinipo [#19]im not even wrong? Where was Less in 24-25?
2022 = Less was better
2023 = tie
2024 = both played mid, Alfa had a better team and international sucess, Less had better stats
2025 = Alfa was better
LocoMonteiro [#12]Alfajers toronto run was more impactful than everything Less has done since 2023
they put less on a trash team in the worst region of all, and expect him do something?
yarlo [#2]alfa on top
Less vs Alfajer
Less vs Alfajer Lockin
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Less 1.26 > 0.96 Alfajer
Less +20 > +7 Alfajer
Less vs Alfajer Champions 2023
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
Less 1.19 > 1.18 Alfajer
Less +9 > +5 Alfajer
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
Less 1.08 > 0.83 Alfajer
Less +2 > -4 Alfajer
Less vs Alfajer EMEA Stage 1 2025
https://www.vlr.gg/459836/team-vitality-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w2
Less 1.00 > 0.79 Alfajer
Less +5 > -7 Alfajer
Less 4 - 0 Alfajer
Less: 1 Champions trophy (World Champion)
Alfajer: 0 Champions trophies (NOT a World Champion, eliminated by Less)
Meinipo [#19]im not even wrong? Where was Less in 24-25?
i agree that alfajer is a better player
alfajer toronto was not better than less champs 2022
pugz [#32]2022 = Less was better
2023 = tie
2024 = both played mid, Alfa had a better team and international sucess, Less had better stats
2025 = Alfa was better
2023 tie??? Alfa hard clears sorry
g2gcHATER [#33]they put less on a trash team in the worst region of all, and expect him do something?
So EMEA is trash but the best Sentinel in the world couldnt farm it? i know you are clinically stupid but even you gotta agree that doesnt make sense
glittering_yard [#34]Less vs Alfajer
Less vs Alfajer Lockin
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Less 1.26 > 0.96 Alfajer
Less +20 > +7 AlfajerLess vs Alfajer Champions 2023
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
Less 1.19 > 1.18 Alfajer
Less +9 > +5 Alfajer
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
Less 1.08 > 0.83 Alfajer
Less +2 > -4 AlfajerLess vs Alfajer EMEA Stage 1 2025
https://www.vlr.gg/459836/team-vitality-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w2
Less 1.00 > 0.79 Alfajer
Less +5 > -7 AlfajerLess 4 - 0 Alfajer
Less: 1 Champions trophy (World Champion)
Alfajer: 0 Champions trophies (NOT a World Champion, eliminated by Less)
No one cares about h2h. Less was irrelevant last 2 years
mangomango [#36]2023 tie??? Alfa hard clears sorry
Less was better on Lock IN and Champions
Alfajer was better on Tokyo
Less won al H2H when they played (except lock in final, even then Less played better)
pugz [#32]2022 = Less was better
2023 = tie
2024 = both played mid, Alfa had a better team and international sucess, Less had better stats
2025 = Alfa was better
2023 alfa is definitely better
I_LOVE_LESS [#21]and alfajer has never been better than Less when they've played eachother
That’s like saying curry is better than LeBron because it’s 3-1 in finals
Meinipo [#39]No one cares about h2h. Less was irrelevant last 2 years
so Derke is a shit player now?
pugz [#40]Less was better on Lock IN and Champions
Alfajer was better on Tokyo
Less won al H2H when they played (except lock in final, even then Less played better)
Who won 2 trophies? Who was the MVP? Are you kidding me?
pugz [#43]so Derke is a shit player now?
Nope he's not shit. But he's fallen behind in all time comparisons
less is one of the all time greats but alfa has just more opportunities to shine. People make fun of nAts for "not doing anything" since 2021 so by that logic Alfa > less
I_LOVE_LESS [#21]and alfajer has never been better than Less when they've played eachother
I don't think 4 games in 2 players' 4 year long careers are what should settle the debate
What's up with this Less glaze cuz they won 2 games??? I thought we all left him or smth
Marii [#42]That’s like saying curry is better than LeBron because it’s 3-1 in finals
except bron played better in those series so not really
glittering_yard [#34]Less vs Alfajer
Less vs Alfajer Lockin
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Less 1.26 > 0.96 Alfajer
Less +20 > +7 AlfajerLess vs Alfajer Champions 2023
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
Less 1.19 > 1.18 Alfajer
Less +9 > +5 Alfajer
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
Less 1.08 > 0.83 Alfajer
Less +2 > -4 AlfajerLess vs Alfajer EMEA Stage 1 2025
https://www.vlr.gg/459836/team-vitality-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2025-emea-stage-1-w2
Less 1.00 > 0.79 Alfajer
Less +5 > -7 AlfajerLess 4 - 0 Alfajer
Less: 1 Champions trophy (World Champion)
Alfajer: 0 Champions trophies (NOT a World Champion, eliminated by Less)
what about all the internationals which alfa has attended and less hasnt?
longevity matters lil br
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