2021: Gambit > SEN > Acend
2022: Loud >= Optic > FPX
2023: FNC > EG > Loud
2024: GENG > EDG > SEN
2025: FNC > PRX > NRG (if they win)
2021: Gambit > SEN > Acend
2022: Loud >= Optic > FPX
2023: FNC > EG > Loud
2024: GENG > EDG > SEN
2025: FNC > PRX > NRG (if they win)
Toronto final. EWC final, champs final,
VS
Toronto win, EWC semis, Champs 4th
Hmmm
we're not doing the heretics 2024 shit again, if you didn't win a trophy you don't get to claim first
no, if they lose they're still better than any team not named prx and nrg, they just cannot claim first
Ofc you put the champs winners over the non champs winners how does this not make sense
its for the whole year, you could say NRG are better now but FNC have been in grand finals multiple times and NRG are better for the whole year because of this one game? They haven't done anything besides this, gotta be reasonable about it
Talking like this isn’t the biggest tournament of the year, also Fnatic made 2 international grand finals and one regional grand final, NRG made 1 international grand final and 1 regional grand final. If NRG win this then yeah they should be the toty because 2 second places < 1 first place
Well Gen G was first cuz they had a trophy and two grand finals appearances but obviously TH was the second best team
sen is arguable cause 1st 4th vs 2nd 2nd but EDG? who were literally shit the whole year except champs??
more important than the entire rest of the year combined? in that case the best teams of the year are EDG > TH > LEV > SEN
if champs is important enough to take EDG who are genuinely probably bordering a top 20 team before champs straight to first place then the best teams of the year are literally just teams placements at champs, i guess you could argue SEN > LEV for winning one masters
no the best teams of the year are the ones that won tournaments and made deep runs
i think prx still above nrg if we talk about this year overall, stage 1 3rd toronto 1st stage 2 1st champs 4th
ewc 4th?
T1 won a trophy and made another international, thats just better than a 2nd place at champs and nothing else
FPX was robbed of 1st place due to russia war. They were the actual best team
Real ranking
2021 Gambit > Acend > Sentinels
2022 Loud > Optic > FPX (fraudulent circumstances)
2023 FNC > EG > Loud
2024 GenG > Heretics > Sentinels
2025 FNC > PRX > G2/NRG
21 is right, optic>loud, 23 you could argue prx third but loud is a good choice too, id probably go sen>heretics but its understandable. Decent list, respect the fact that you weight trophy wins less than most others.
is loud the third best team of 2023 only because they beat fnc twice at champs and placed 3rd? PRX performed better at tokyo and champs than loud did
they got 2nd madrid, 1st shanghai (first ever pacific trophy) and then won pacific stage 2
how does that not move you
2021 Gambit ENVY acend
2022 Optic loud V1
2023 FNC EG MXM
2024 Team Heretics SEN GENG
2025 PRX G2 FNC
NRG got lucky off momentum
Why ppl put gmb>acend if they had a 3-1 matches record in favor of acend?