How do some people not consider this guy the GOAT?
One of the most common arguments I see against him is “superteam merchant” which does not matter.
Many people get given superteams their whole career and still flop. (Less)
I think people forget that if a few more things went his way, he could be a champs winner AND a 4x masters winner, crazy.
“Never the best player on his team” Wheres nAts now?
I don’t know how it’s even a debate.
Also please stop putting f0rsaken top 5 thank you
"imagine if michael jordan still won 6 trophies, but put up less stats, was worse overall, and was either the second/third/fourth best player for each of the 6 rings, lost the FMVP every year to scottie pippen or dennis rodman
but still got called the GOAT
thats chronicle"
as opposed to who, aspas? The one who put up the worst stats on the team in his only trophy? I feel like there isn’t a definitive goat compared to NBA standards then
there's not even a definitive goat in the nba mj and bron are like 50/50 its extremely rare that there is a definitive goat. only thing i can think of is league and the nfl
i mean yeah bron is obviously the goat but theres still an argument to be made in favor of mj instead, and as long as there is an argument people are going to believe different things based on what they favor
except chronicle won an mvp (fmvp) officially
it would be like if mj won 6 trophies but won 2 fmvps, and the other 4 were distributed across 2 players who won 4 trophies (leo and alfa)
Which MVP did chronicle officially win? Never seen any website (VLR, rib, thespike, etc) or riot themselves announce chronicle as the mvp and I think just according to the general community, most would regard nats as the Berlin mvp
o-oh
okay 😔
I guess I’ll keep on walking this lonely road called life with no one by my side. ☹️
#solemn
#elliotsmith
Just thought I’d clarify the upvote on this post was not me.
I would never do such a thing.
title was good and first line was good and then it went downhill from there
dude was just never dominant. yeah he has the most trophies but i've never seen him just take over an event or be the best player in the world.
to be the "greatest of all time" you have to be the best and he never has been.
chron top 8 in toronto , top 4 in champs 2024 even when they went out lr2 to sen, , champs 2023 chronicle had a big stinker, top 3 at tokyo, top 10 at lock in, . didnt qual to any event cuz of russia drama. , chron top 4 in champs 2021, top 3 in berlin
russia drama isnt good enough. For the first masters it was a fair excuse but after they formed m3c there was no excuse to missing all the internationals.
The only time chron has been the best on his team was during ewc which isnt even a riot event.
Not reading allat but I don’t rate players that haven’t won a legitimate trophy in their lives
Zombs has as much claim to the GOAT of Valorant as b0tnicle
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