who do you think winning LB finals and getting the GF spot?
i just know TALON will give their all to win and RRQ has nothing to lose...
0
RRQ vs TALON
posted in
Valorant Discussion
Comments:
Threaded
Linear
could go either way if talon lose its gonna be a mental and pressure issue but they could just as easily come out and dominate i really have no idea tbh
bro wants his region to be shittier for champs just for the sake of getting another regional win LMAO
Not really it's just cuz the team Is Talon if wonder you didnt know last year they throw for purpose dodging prime geng and make RRQ facing GENG if in this case is TS i don't have any problem, and what's wrong with supporting my team?
i know that happened still you guys should be focused on winning champs and not another regional. also if you want just the best performance for pacific why would you want a worse team to qualify??
Why not both? Focus on winning pacific and Champs thats not the issue you make sounds it like "RRQ could throw so better team go champs" nah idc
not saying they should throw lmao im just saying as a pacific fan you shouldnt care whether they win or lose that match. regionals are worthless imo
I just want support my team and there no team in pacific that b2b winning regional thats the case i just want RRQ do that thing
he's an RRQ fan lol and you probably wanted G2 to win it all in Americas anyway. there is no such things as a "regional fans". that term exist purely because of banter and why would you care about it at all as an RRQ fan if pacific is no longer a trophyless region.
Talon didnt throw to Zeta on purpose to dodge Prime Geng, they just had no practice cuz crws flew back to Thailand to sign Primmie.
That make another reason throw to Zeta then why would the player traveling sign new player in the mid season
Because Primmie is him, honestly if crws didnt fly that week i think Primmie would’ve been signed by PRX. I heard crws was like 2-3 days faster than alecks to sign him
Half the reason of primmie joining is crws. Crws is ensuring his parents that he will help him in other country. And as the guy before me said, he's not that good in english. So don't expect him to perform the same in prx(t3xture GE incident)
I think you misscorrecting were not talking about stage 1 2025, we talking about stage 2 2024
aite thats my bad, but how could u know they throw. back at that time talon was always inconsistent
It's clearly throw everyone know Talon top 4 pacific team in 2024 only lose against top 3 and "throw" against Zeta for dodging the prime Geng so could they have a chance
lowkey RRQ should just lose and start at the group stage at Paris, so they can get used to the international stage first, unlike in toronto
🤓: "lowkey RRQ should just lose and start at the group stage at Paris, so they can get used to the international stage first, unlike in toronto"
RRQ have lwk looked insane recently.
As much as I am a crazyguy hatewatcher, I must admit he is a decent IGL that easily clears crws, and that RRQ's coaching staff have been doing miracles Fr0st could never dream of.
Jemkin looks like a raid boss every game and idk if TLN can stop him.
Still rooting for TLN to win bc they are fun to watch.
I mean he legit does tho, crws calling is kinda mid and crazyguy for sure works the map a lot better than crws does imo
i dont think you understand just how much work crws puts into that team bro with all the translating for the coaches hes heavily involved in map vetos, map prep, etc etc just watch one of the post conferences bro. and on top of that hes microing everyone in the server because they are all just aimers besides jitboys i guess but still. i just dont see the argument for crazyguy hes pretty decent but imo rrq's weakest aspect is their calling i dont think the same for talon.
Yeah I'm not questioning his value as a member of the roster, but crws is not a strategic genius. And TBF Talon have basically been ripping off paper rex comps, gameplans and set plays for a while now. Not exactly crws' original work.
"weakest aspect is their calling" why are we just lying now, the calling has not been bad at all. They have had multiple attack side sunset comebacks already.
i didnt say it was bad at all they made champs in the hardest region after all im just saying i think overall their midrounding and sometimes pre barrier calls tend to be their weak point. i dont think thats crazy to say if youve watched them throughout the year youd prob agree. all im saying is that "clears crws" is crazy idk how you could think that.
Ofc RRQ has igling weaknesses but its pretty clear to me that TLN has those exact same problems and more. I've been watching the RRQ games through the year and I've consistently considered their attack side calling to be among the best in APAC.
yeah no i disagree with all of that. i dont think the calling is a weak point for talon personally.
U seem to know a lot about crws but u know nothing about crazyguy. If u actually follow rrq then you'll know that crazyguy micro manage everyone in the team (same as crws) they just need to aim and shoot (confirmed by kushy in the interview about crazyguy arrival). For the preparation, crazyguy spends most of his rest time on either watching vods or practicing in the range (confirmed in monyet's stream, even he acknowledged crazyguy as one of the most hardworking leader). Calling-wise u can argue that crws might be better than crazyguy (imo not tho) but fragging wise crazyguy clears crws. Not to mention crazyguy always drop hero vandals and op to Jemkin and he always makes first contact for the team to trade him.
if u say this in earlier this year, yeah maybe i'd agree.
but now? heeeelll nah
u don't think crazyguy's also doing heavy prep like him? all of RRQ are headless chickens, probably not kushy though, if they don't get direction from crazyguy. that is why they played like dogshit when estrella still in the team. they were playing not to lose.
after crazyguy addition they have been getting in any int'l events. don't you think it's also his work?
its not the same bro crws's workload is probably the most out of any igl in the game right now and crazyguy im not sure what hes like in the server but in terms of prep its majority just the coaches. credit to him tho for really defining the team.
like i said, if we're talking earlier stage 1, yes i 100% agreed that crws prob doing much more than crazyguy.
but do u rly think after having 2 meta changes this year crazyguy didn't have the work on the overall team? he's the IGL too he should be working with the coaches too. 2 years with 0 top 3 in playoffs, not even once qualified to international events before crazyguy...
that's not normal feat. guy must be working his ass off doing all the prep with the coaches.
i'm not glazing him, i'm acknowledging his impact to the team that 2 other IGLs before him cannot do.
"in terms of prep its majority just the coaches" ok that is just lying. ewok literally said that the tejo ascent comp was crazyguys idea and he just went with it. crws might arguably have more workloads than him but result wise crazyguy clears him. 2 top 3 finish in 2 first pacifics and the team looks miles better when he joined compared to kickoffs when they still had estrella idk if thats all just coachs work
he aint tryna discredit crazy guy or anything, just giving crws the respect he deserves because he’s easily the most valuable player on talon and under appreciated
it’s just more clear to see what impact crws brings especially with their roster being full thai yet despite having a foreign coaching staff having to be the translator for the team, make up strats with jovi. fr0st talks about him and his impact on the team a LOT which i don’t think i seen any other coach or player do
yeah the stage 1 and 2 playoffs run are damn fantasy run. props to the coaches and crazyguy for the heavy prep.
lowkey rrq could pull a funny and throw against talon for the specific purpose of locking drx out of champs
i just hope both teams giving their all. talon has to earn it if they want to go to champs, they look good before the prx match ngl, but rrq got the momentum. lets hope its a good game
as long as you employ fr0st and pr0mm00 your team is never gonna win
also were part of the mickey mouse clubhouse we can win
Only reason i want TLN to win is DRX gets a free pass to get grouped in champs if they dont
Talon ban Ascent, RRQ ban Lotus
Talon pick Bind
RRQ pick Icebox
Talon pick Haven/Corrode
RRQ pick Sunset
Corrode/Haven remain
3-1 for RRQ.
RRQ's gonna read Talon very well since Talon hasn't changed their comps the whole event
even as an indo, i want talon to win so we have 3 sea reps in champs instead of drx clowning in internationals as usual
Talon have huge pressure in this match since its do or die match. If their can overcome that, it will be great bonus to their performance.
But if talon go to gf, i think it will be boring since talon and prx already many meet in this stage 2.
It will be more interesting if duo rex meet since they never meet in stage 2
People in this thread make it seem like rrq are real life batman with the prep time argument
You guys know talon have the same amount of time
why do people in this thread speaking like t0l0n gonna do better than drx in champs 🤣. Didnt they remember t0l0n get grouped last year
it was their first international, while drx has been to many, only to end up at 5th-6th almost everytime. Give Talon a second chance to see if they belong on a global stage, we already gave drx too many, and they disappoint us everytime.
Discord