-EG +Complexity
-C9 +Flyquest
-Lev +9z
-Fut +Eternal Fire
-Gx +Spirit
-KOI +Faze
-DFM +Riddle
-GE +Revenant
-secret +naos
-AG +lynn vision
-JDG + TOP
-tyloo +rare atom
Which VCT teams should be replaced
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(So? half the vct orgs are cs orgs tyloo is not a small org they have a LOT of money) iread your message wrong but still i dont see a problem rare atom and lynn vision are also cs2 orgs
In comparison tyloo is way bigger + tyloo has a promising rebuild coming in 2026
So some other trash team takes their place and they go on to fame free money in Tier 2?
views quit low so they should add some orgs who have some streamers behind them in emea only change i see is valid is koi
Add joblife instead or M8
GX got no clout but they formed a decent team so I don't know
I mean for the NA teams it was because of finances lev i changed because they are no longer latam and i added ef and spirit because if they have good team even with no streamers the whole country will watch them just like in cs , riddle is basically content creators team so his whole audience will watch the team matches, revenant just good sa team naos>secret and the Chinese i added the most popular but i didn't add m8 because they are ascension otherwise i would also make g2 permanent
Riot should make the leagues with 20 teams from 2027 and make Premier tier 2. Here are the orgs I'd want to see in EMEA from 2027
- BIG
- MOUZ
- Eternal Fire
- NIP
- Team BDS
- M8 (on partnered contract)
- G2 (back to EU)
- 2 middle eastern teams
G2 back to eu would just fuck up a lot of players careers because every team would want them so they would throw their team and its not guaranteed g2 will be better in eu, and maybe one middle eastern , they haven't done anything in cs or valorant or even lol
na even tho g2 a eu team they're fucking balling these last 2 years. there is absolute no point of moving back to eu and get a shittier team
furia are very bad but they are the most expensive org in brazil right now they are just investing in cs later they will come in valorant and they will dominate they will have money for whoever they want, they are so rich that in csgo they made inflation of Brazilian players and now teams have to pick Portuguese players
Firstly an emea change should have a German team be added and I'm very confident that koi will not go away and some of the others seem rather inconvenient to set up I think we just add qualifiers or keep 99% of the orgs at one time and changes have to be extremely slow
There are no good german players only proxh and click which are turkish immigrants and changes will be fast faria said contracts end 2027 (i think?) and whoever riot didnt like is out of the door
It honestly doesn't have to include players it can just be the org and it's not like we can fully tell they're all bad like ara and flickless were just alright in a t2 region that is considered one of the worst and they're fully capable of playing in tier 1
Yes :
-Gx +Spirit (We need a CIS team and GX is the EMEA team that have the least their place)
Debatable :
-Lev +9z (I rather have EXL, since we have no representant of LAN)
-GE +Revenant (I'm disapointed in GE sacrificing SA)
-AG +lynn vision
-JDG + TOP
-tyloo +rare atom
(China is really hard to predict depends on financial of big structure like IG and RNG)
Absolutely no WTF :
-EG +Complexity (-EG is
-C9 +Flyquest (C9 is the structure Riot trust the most in America, About FQ I just hope they are hire in APAC and represent Oceania)
-Fut +Eternal Fire (FUT play with TR team, is always decent, even if play weird, no reason to kick them)
-KOI +Faze (KOI have probably the biggest fanbase in Spain)
-secret +naos (Secret is also a team Riot trust in)
-DFM +Riddle (Same as TS and KOI)
Some that you should have mention :
-Furia +2G (2G have shown they are willing to invest way more than Furia, their Aca team is better than Furia, and they are a really great GC team while Furia doesnt have)
-EG + SR (SR have a T2 team and GC team, while EG dont)
-RRQ +BOOM (Not sure it will happen since thats not the coice they made)
-VIT +M8 (I will change my opinion in the future, but I'm so mad of so many wasted potential in VIt this year)
-100T +TSM (This one is a bold one, and unpopular one, it depend on information we dont have, 100T seems they did lack of money in LoL so they could be in crisis, while TSM wish is a really popular team could be back)
-APAC is nearly perfect, but need a team for FQ, maybe we also need a VN team, (Same for MENA)
I was thinking about EXL but i would rather see them as ascension team
i dont think riot trust c9 as c9 was almost not picked and only selected beacuse optic were lazy with files or something like that i forgot
fut has done nothing wrong but eternal fire is the pride of turkey
Now about koi they are a really popular org but they just dont invest in valorant as they do in LoL they have been the worst team in the league since the franchising
Secret dfm maybe you are right
for furia they are in the same position as koi but brazil has less teams then eu so i would say keep them because you can just spank furia and tell them invest or you are kicked
SR i can agree
RRQ is really huge surpassingly it was in top 5 most watched orgs of 2025 or something like that 3 mouths ago
nah tsm just matchfixed agaist SRG until you catch that player you cant talk this talk
I think Furia isnt in same situation than KOI, since KOI is leader in Spain, and Furia isnt in Brasil (It's probably LOUD)
Loud is not that popular in brazil e-sports culture tho furia is the most well known brazilian org they are insane in cs good for western team in LoL but they just dont invest in Valorant if riot spanks them a little they will invest, if riot is in good terms with furia they can have neymar come to events as he is an investor in furia
What are your metrics ? I just check on twitter and Loud if x4 Fura follower
Damn yeah i didnt expect so many followers because they are only tier 1 in valorant from the big games and they have vini jr as partner guess i was wrong
It really feels like it's all fixable if you remove partnership and just actually support tier 2. Make the current tier 2 system tier 3 effectively and all the teams brought up in these discussions start in a 12 team tier 2. 2 go and 2 go down from each league. With two teams qualifying to join tier 2 based on premier and the regional leagues.
SR finally winning the league to be promoted would be great or 2G mimicking a Luton Town style run from the premier league. Also gets rid of bad teams like Furia and DFM pretty quick as well as giving more job security to talent in tier 1. And more upward momentum to new players.
The team we select have to be partner, need to bring viewer even if they are last, wish is the case for KOI but not for GX, to know what king of team we should keep you should answer the question "What org I what in T1 even if they are the worst T1 team"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRL1RtzfeSk I've made a full video about that subject
But ge has imported more korean talent than indian talent to vct and revenant always has interesting teams from dos9 and sultan to the current team
At least GE is paying the pros which are deserving also they always get carried and literally trolled their ascension qualifier
Org ≠ Players. You think if RNTX was in franchise they will play with this 5 man ? At best they would have played with Azys, Rawfiul nd Venka nd even they would get replaced after a split if they didn't show up .
Rntx has crazy money owner was willing to give 500k usd if they had won ascension so you can imagine.
But I will be honest with S8ul securing EWC partnership nd more funding nd expanding to 10+ pc games holding their roster even in off season I think GE's fate is sealed Riot doesn't care what type of audience is engaged but an org which was able to get us 50k watching peak in tier 2 would easily make the cut into franchising over GE now
I am not gonna care about RNTX biggest troll hahahahahahahahahah and also I don’t want fucking kid watchers orgs to join franchise as well shite8ul
They are really only good in LoL like really popular there but no success else where and in valorant they are failure so you need to give other big chinese org a change
they are one of the most successful chinese orgs in terms of results in other games wtf are you talking about
Games that are actually important Cs, valorant, LoL and Mobile legends and maybe dota maybeee because of the prize pool. AG has been trash at valo, insane at LoL, trash at Cs, trash at mobile legends, the club is popular no doubt but is not one of the most successful you have teams like liquid navi og spirit fnatic
they have been top 3 in crossfire for years now, are literally household names in Honor of Kings, and are decently relevant in pubg mobile. literally what the fuck are you talking about
Honor of kings has peak viewers of 380 840 in 2025 and crossfire -10 342 (less then Minecraft e-sports)
https://escharts.com/top-games?order=peak&page=3
Those games are the kinda games falcons put in ewc so they can win
skip the global viewership here when you see the amount of money they won for a game heavily reliant on China
https://liquipedia.net/crossfire/All_Gamers/Results
https://liquipedia.net/honorofkings/AG_Super_Play/Results
as if the whole org's winning is relying on these two games
you can use the other site to compare and crossfire has prize pool of $374 637 which 34th in the world and honor is much much better with $3 316 763 being top 9, in which they have only one s tier achievement in 2024
HoK is a weird case because their prize pool of an A-Tier is very close to LoL Worlds (HoK's A Tier Chinese league that AG compete had 2.11M USD, Worlds from LoL had 2.2 total), so their A, is S in many games and their S being S++ by prize pool
EsportsEarnings and ESCharts isnt that accurate because they missed loads of events specially Chinese games
https://liquipedia.net/crossfire/Portal:Statistics << This is more accurate for CrossFire's prize pool by the years
Founded in the 1990s, AG is one of the oldest esports clubs in the world, and in recent years AG has been trying to globalize and make him more famous
Bro thats the biggest e sports org and they have the best e sports player
How can I explain to all foreigners that RNG and IG really don't have much money
RNG has faced multiple lawsuits over unpaid salaries and bankruptcy, becoming public knowledge. Their massive financial black hole finds no willing takers, with FLC currently rumored as potential acquirer. As for IG, its original owner opted out, and the current ownership a consortium of wealthy heirs and Huya pooling funds—aims to prepare for China-hosted championship. Should they fail, operations will downscale to tight-budget management.
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