F for Fluke winner
M for Mickey
L for Legit
F - EWC 2026
F - London
M - Santiago
F - Paris
M - EWC 2025
L - Toronto
F - Bangkok
F - Seoul
L - Shanghai
L - Madrid
F - Los Angeles
L - Tokyo
M - Sao Paulo
L - Istanbul
L - Copenhagen
L - Reykjavik
M - Berlin
M - Berlin
L - Reykjavik
Don't know much about val from early 2023 and back so my opinions aren't correct, THATS WHY I'M ASKING FOR YOUR ANSWERS!!
Terrible format btw couldn't you have just put the letters in front of the event? You went through all that trouble to have more bullets
EWC 2026 M
Masters London L
Masters Santiago F
Champions Paris F
EWC 2025 M
Masters Toronto L
Masters Bangkok F
Champions Seoul (?)
Masters Shanghai M
Masters Madrid F
Champions Los Angeles F
Masters Tokyo L
Lock/In Sao Paolo F
Champions Instanbul L
Masters Copenhagen L
Masters Reykjavik L
Champions Berlin F
Masters Berlin F
Masters Reykjavik F
comeback with lucky clutches + easier path than Loud (every team fnatic faced had a shit performance throughout 2023)
lucky clutches LMAOOOO. there were TWO clutches. Derke vs Aspas where derke hit a tiny flick when aspas exited the smoke; not lucky. For the alfa 1v2 aspas and cauazin lined up it's more loud's fault than the clutch being lucky.
Also LOUD faced GENG, who was terrible that entire year (lost to TS btw), KC and NRG the only half good team they faced. Also you guys almost lost to DRX in playoffs, who mind you had close games with shit teams like BBL, Talon and Cloud9.
FNC faced SEN first, which had tenz and TWO of your champs winning roster players. Furia was the only one who was able to put up a fight with two close maps and then we stomped 100 Thieves, who i agree wasn't that great of a roster.
Lastly, we faced NAVI, who made both Tokyo and Champs that year. So not the most terrible team. Try better
Idk LEV seems like a fluke winner to me
Don't know much about val from early 2023 and back so my opinions aren't correct, THATS WHY I'M ASKING FOR YOUR ANSWERS!!
however like I said this isn't about my opinion, it's yours
they seem like a fluke winner based onā¦ what? lev destroyed every team they played in the lower bracket, were the only team in the tournament that can actually match PRX in terms of strats and firepower and won the tournament on nerfed neon while everyone was counting them out. top the fact that they had to deal with ewc quals. they won the tournament with double map disadvantage that doesnāt make them a fluke winner hate to break it to you
you won the argument.
I went back to Stage 1 but they honestly did really well in stage 1 too, so they're not really fluke.
However I'm prob just coping cuz I can't even win an international match
realistically speaking the worst you can put for the 2026 events are mickey since the meta is dog shit to watch, iād be fine with that lol
How is Champs 23 a fluke? EG got second in the tournament before and only improved. And it's not like they as a team fell off right after the team disbanded
Yeah and I'm asking about your opinion. You said you didn't know much from early 2023 and earlier but that would presumably mean late 2023 is in your repertoire and you have a reason for putting it as a fluke, which is why I'm asking because I don't see the argument for it. I'm trying to understand your opinion since you offered it up and it's something I don't get if you watched it
L - EWC 2026
L - London
M - Santiago
L - Paris
M - EWC 2025
M - Toronto
L - Bangkok
L - Seoul
L - Shanghai
M - Madrid
M - LA
L - Tokyo
M - LOCK/IN
L - Istanbul
L - Copenhagen
M - Reykjavik 2022
M - Champs Berlin
L - Masters Berlin
L - Reykjavik 2021
M - EWC 2026
L - London
M - Santiago
L - Paris
M - EWC 2025
L - Toronto
F - Bangkok
F - Seoul
L - Shanghai
M - Madrid
L - Los Angeles
L - Tokyo
M - Sao Paulo
L - Istanbul
F - Copenhagen
L - Reykjavik
F - Berlin
L - Berlin
M - Reykjavik
M - EWC 2026
L - London
L - Santiago
F - Paris
M - EWC 2025
F - Toronto
L - Bangkok
L - Seoul
L - Shanghai
L - Madrid
L - Los Angeles
L - Tokyo
L - Sao Paulo
L - Istanbul
L - Copenhagen
L - Reykjavik
L - Berlin
L - Berlin
L - Reykjavik
You can never ever LEV win a fluke. Maybe you can call it mickey but a fluke definitely not
I just realised you called 2021 Reykjavik legit but Masters and Champs Berlin mickey. So this list is just ragebait I see. (Not even mention the fact 2022 Reykjavik is probably the most mickey out of all events pre-franchising)
L - EWC 2026
L - London
M - Santiago
L - Paris
M - EWC 2025
L - Toronto
F - Bangkok
L - Seoul
L - Shanghai
L - Madrid
L - Los Angeles
L - Tokyo
M - Sao Paulo
L - Istanbul
L - Copenhagen
L - Reykjavik
F - Berlin
L - Berlin
L - Reykjavik
I think the only event that could be considered mickey are the EWC and Reykjavik 2022.
EWC because some teams legit sideline it or dont try
and Reykjavik 2022 because its the only event where a region wasnt allowed to send their strongest team (notably the strongest region at the time as well)
but thats not really optics fault, who were obviously a good team.
No event is a fluke, u cant fluke a win
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