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koromast
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NA is holding us back, 100t c9 nrg and eg refuse to build more competitive teams with better prospects because they want to go cheap and SA teams will never be able to try out much players with potential because they can only go for the best prospect available they see in terms of stats and achievements on vcl and start their visa proccess 1-2 months before any tournament starts, reality is that this region is set to fail from the start.

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Barss
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"Us" as a kru fan is crazy LMAO

#4
koromast
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say whatever you want but the reality is that the only reason g2 stomps everyone in this region is because they are the only ones that go big with their roster builds, not because they are really that unbeatable or talented, if the other orgs really did a good work with their roster builds history would probably be really different maybe for the better for your org or not but for the better for this region fs.

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Barss
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lmao what the core has literally been the same since 2022 they didnt build big, they picked up leaf who hasnt won anything and jawgemo this year

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termtermtermterm
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100T just have nepo asuna
Choke9 is choke9
NRG is always underwhelming but might be okay this time
and all of the SA shit teams keep recycling the shit players for some reason

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alienista1
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saying "for some reason" like we don't all know why by now is just crazy

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what reason is there nowadays? brazil has young new talent and so does latam. look at spike, look at dante. now they aren't available and its just a travesty

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because it's hard to trial Brazilian players due to how far Brazil is from the US

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wagonVAL
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Takes the longest to get new players yet always manages to have 5 different rosters in a single year

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koromast
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"for some reason" cuz they need a working visa to get anyone on the team and they last like 3 months to get them if they are lucky enough, and when they get it stages already start or are about to.

if someone gets kicked from their team its easier to get them on another team cuz of their visa, since renovations are far easier than visa creations.

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GarbanzoEnjoyer
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EG does have a competitive team but yeah this region sucks. It doesn't help that most NA coaches are br00ch-pilled

And for the love of the fucking game can we please host anywhere other than the US

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andrzx
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fr

#9
SquareMars
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"Us" is wild considering the KRU flair

#11
Uncleben
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It’s pretty simple. NA’s two best and Loud were the only actual teams capable of winning trophies, NA has fell off and Loud’s talent has dispersed so we can’t actually win anything

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thats simply not true we´ve always have shooters on t2 but people only see who wins the tournaments, thats why skuba lasted 3 years to get on t1, NA teams rather have comfort than risk thats why most of them except sen and g2 are mediocre at best

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Actually, other than envy na t2 is not very strong atm, most of the good Na t2 player are actually in tier 1. The problem is the talent is too dispersed for us…every team has 1-2 insane players and 1-2 shit cans.

G2 didn’t really take risks either btw. They signed a world champion duelist, leaf (one of the best duelists), and the guard core who won ascension and shoulda been t1 anyways

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nah, every na t2 team have atleast 1 prospect that could get tried out, its just that yall dont trust in improvement and want inmediate results, look at jakee for example and demon1 they werent top tier players from the start they had to be made. thats the issue, you shouldnt see a t2 player by their consistency but by their ceiling if you are going to build a team that aims to be top tier, because t2 consistency will most likely not show you anything of value unless they are canezera or mada droppings 300 acs.

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Well yeah, because the gap between t2 and t1 is massive, you need to play exceptionally well in t2 to actually be good in tier1

Also Jakee was mediocre in t1, and demon1 outside of 23 has been very shakey

There’s only a handful of t2 players I can think off outside of nv, nightz, voriac, bao, seven but na tier 1 is missing IGLs and sentinel players

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there have been good sentinels on tier 2 for a while but they never get a room on tier 1 like furbsa shonder or add3r tho, and oxy, n4rrate, johnqt, lukxo, sato, dante etc are all t2 so it really doesnt make that much sense to say the gap is big, the gap is big between top 3 itw and t2? sure, but the gap between t1 6th-12th of every region and t2 aint even that different

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I haven’t watched much furbsa but adder would be horrendous in t1 trust me. Shondex I’m not decided on, but i don’t think any of these are upgrades over net and zellsis based on how net played in t2 in 23. The gap is too big imo, even mediocre players like Zander topped every stat metric in t2.

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mimosa1
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Americas feels boring like no other region has so many matches where the winner is so clear

Like if Furia wins it would be a huge wtf moment but in every other game today predicting it felt like the other team had a chance (minus like the BLG game)

#14
TentacleThing
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Cry about it, Latam still loses to these "Mediocre" NA teams. Also, KRU exist just to get grouped at champs they are the one's holding every other Americas team back.

#15
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if kru keeps shitting on all NA teams except sen and g2 then its their fault not ours, i would like them being more competitive because it would only make our team improve too instead of only needing to be above average to qual to champs

#27
TentacleThing
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Kru literally lost to EG two times last stage, that's another NA team they haven't shit on. Also it is 100% KRU's fault if they keep getting grouped in champs, its just an excuse if you think otherwise.

#18
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NA is holding us back

aspas is the single reason SA hasn’t been completely deemed irrelevant internationally

#21
Effluxi
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kru regularly makes champs wdym

#23
shrike-
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to get grouped, sure

#20
Congo1
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This year Americas have definitely been in crisis. Nobody has confidence in them to win champs and they were nothing in EWC and Toronto.

Too much old talent recycling. Changes have to be made far more ruthlessly. New talent needs to come in. NA is so clogged. Look what happened to Nrg.

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koromast
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these guys are acting as if the 3rd or 4th best teams having aspas or being kru are a bad thing but they dont even see that im talking about general level, g2 flairs getting so stupid saying "nah regions is good if we do good" are so ridiculous, its just like 2023 fnc fans all along but without trophies, they wont see the bigger picture and think the 3rd 4th team not improving is their fault, if 5th-12th are low then 3rd-4th wont need to do top tier performances to qual thats the problem, and even if i say why 5th-12th suck they just think i refer to sen g2 mibr and kru this site is so braindead

#30
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kru owners: kun, messi, and yay

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