PRX FNC Debate final

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#1
DSGFan
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  1. Toronto is not a fluke; there are no fluke tournaments, and if there are fluke tournaments, it means everyone else wasn't good enough to win a fluke
  2. This event is a perfectly valid event the equivalent of a major.
  3. Respect to both teams for giving us a good game.

fin.

#2
ynuser
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🤙 valid

#3
Crayzid
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"fin." SYBAU

#4
Uncleben
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I don’t think this event is as impressive as a masters or a champs, but it still better than every other valorant event

#8
markass_brownee
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They should make a new tier for events like these on Liquipedia
EWC is classified as S-Tier but it's definitely not as good as Champs or Masters
They should make some A+ tier or something
edit: I meant to reply #5 whatever

#13
zoras
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Yh that’s what I’m
Saying maybe I should type it out to not be misleading I meant a S - (minus) or A+ is valid aswell

#15
Raevus
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S tier is mainly the scale of the even. CS has it, but even S tier events aren't as prestigious as a major, or a grand slam.

Even if masters champs and ewc are S tier. The legacy left behind from winning champs or a masters will always reign more important over EWC.

#19
markass_brownee
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I guess if prize pool is what mainly decides the tier of an event then this is absolutely S tier
But definitely not as prestigious as masters or champs (especially Masters 2 onwards)

#21
Raevus
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It's not just prizepool.

I feel the main thing that constitutes an S tier among even pro players, is the level of competition.

Like there was a year ago or so in CS, where even pro players didn't see it as a T1/S event because the competition wasn't as good as other events that year.

With who's at this event, I consider it an S tier. the best teams have attended, prizepool is high. The only thing lacking imo is a legacy, and production of the earlier stages were pretty ass, plus having one bo1 then into a bo2. If it was bo2 all the way through until finals, it would be a lot better.

#18
DSGFan
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If there was more space between this and the other two masters I think it would be as valid as a masters, but yeah

#5
zoras
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Agreed. But this is not a major, it’s like an S- tournament but not quite S

#7
zephyrara
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yeah I think it's a level below masters 1 just off scheduling, but definitely above things like soop just off prize pool

#9
zoras
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I mean this was a rush, it was fun cause you had so much to watch but still it doesn’t reach the prestige of a masters or champs

#16
cumbackderkepls
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Honestly I put it at the same level as Masters 1, because there's only 2 teams per region in it after a flukey kickoff. That is so ass.

#26
Congo1
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I think its better than than masters 1 due to 8 teams and early season new meta new teams chaos. Level of play is always bad there.

Plus as a PRX fan you know very well how legit lower seeds can be

#10
peanutchin
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the retarded format is reason enough not to consider this a major

#6
Soddalele
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1.agree
2.master->EWC IMO
3 agree

#11
DSGFan
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Yeah I agree with your take on 2, only because of how close it is to the last masters in terms of scheduling. But it's still a valid event

#22
Soddalele
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least mickey of the mickeys but still a mickey type deal

#12
SadQwesz
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We will see how both teams perform at Champs

#14
whizmeister
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this is barely a major, you cannot look at the format of this event and say that with a straight face

#17
FerrariFrog
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water is wet ahh

#20
DSGFan
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IDK bro, some people seem to not know

#23
cloudberry
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You really had to give some very solid arguments and then immediately discredit it with French

#25
delighted
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fin is also a Spanish word afaik

#27
cloudberry
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They probably both copied the Romans ig

#24
mondely
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  1. champs = 2points
  2. masters 2 = 1.5points
  3. masters 1 = 1point
  4. lock in = 0.75 point
  5. ewc = 0.5 point
  6. regional = 0.25point
  7. off season etc = 0.1point
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