chronicle > aspas

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chronicle > aspas

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not even a debate lol
the debate for goat of valorant is now between Chron and Derke (Chron is winning rn though for sure)

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both have never been the best player in the world, chronicle and derke werent even top 2 on fnatic when they won trophies

but somehow above leo and alfa

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i have a genuine question. when has aspas been the best player and for how long did that last? 2022 was yay, 2023 was leo/alfa/demon1, 2024 was t3xture, and so far 2025 has been alfa or leaf. if ur argument is that aspas is the goat, ur case makes no sense to me, but if ur tryna say its someone else then im intrigued.

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i think aspas was the best player in the world in 2023 and 2024, but even if he wasnt and you wanna hold his worse team against him

i think nats and aspas are 1/2 and alfa and leo are 3/4, but thats because i dont think chronicle or derke can do what nats or aspas have done, which is be leaders on teams and actually be the main man

nats was the main guy on gambit and is the main guy on liquid, aspas was the main man in 2023, went to LEV and was a carry job on a top 3 team itw, then went to MIBR and is a top 3 team in the region with nothing but rookies and overlooked players

i dont think chronicle and derke can do that, considering derke with a superteam has failed to do that(to his credit not his fault), and we havent seen chronicle play on another team yet

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2023 no he wasnt, leo alfa and demon1 all have better cases
2024 NO he wasnt, kangkang, texture, tenz, woot, reins all have better cases

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swap aspas with derke kangkang wo0t or demon1 and he does better than any of them

just retarded posting, compare the teams

its like saying messi is shit because he plays with inter miami

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does he though? he was in a stacked loud team and clearly wasnt their best player, fairs his lev stint was nice but still not GOD level, his mibr stint has been very poor

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chosenvictor

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his mibr stint has been very poor carrying a team full of rookies and overlooked players to top 3 in the region

are u real?

if aspas failed with this vitality team like derke did he wouldnt even be considered top 5 in goat debates

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carrying? bro he IS the one being carried in so many games for mibr lol

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https://www.vlr.gg/488020/100-thieves-vs-mibr-esports-world-cup-2025-decider
https://www.vlr.gg/475908/mibr-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-lbf

https://media1.tenor.com/m/t6EWYLZnrygAAAAd/bike-wojak.gif

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his road to top 3 was 100t and kru and then lost both the matches (and the region is the second worst), eg were better than mibr during stage 1 but didnt get to face them, current nrg clears mibr from the way they looked at toronto
carrying a team full of rookies is just not true when you were the 3rd lowest rated player in the tournament while the "rookie" was one of the high rated players
derke had to literally play with sayf as igl, and even with that he won vitality rounds by just purely aim diffing the other team

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artzin is the igl on mibr vro, i never said he wasnt shit at toronto, but theyve played more games than that, and im p sure mibr beat eg in ewc quals, and current nrg are just online merchants

halt the cope please

or atleast wait for chronicle to do something without superteam like aspas has

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Youre just biased my guy. Aspas never had a nr.1 year. Similar to chron he was just regularly in the top 5 for years

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chosenvictor

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never had a #1 year only to trophy cocksuckers if he joined superteams like bumicle hed have more trophies

instead my goat nats and aspas joins teams for vibes and money hes not insecure enough to run to win trophies with actual goats like leo and alfa

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nobody's stopping him from joining superteams like g2 and fnatic though. there's a reason the both teams with chronicle are considered superteams by everyone

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chosenvictor

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you think chronicle is the reason fnatic was a superteam

wut

cant even argue with this level of autism, fnatic fans genuinely dont watch their own games because how on earth is a guy who was the third or fourth best on his own team getting goat shouts brev

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#1 we've seen chron be a top player on a dominant team (gmb)
#2 we've seen derke be a top player on a top team (2021, 2022, 2024, 2025)
#3 aspas always plays crazy in regional and then his performance gets worse in international events.
#4 aspas is the only duelist to win an event being the lowest rated player on his team. The reason I mention that is because yall say derke got carried when yall don't say that for aspas, and derke played better his two wins than aspas did in his 1.

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2025 IMO is t3xture, i think top 5 at toronto even tho his team choked and lost out, nd hes destroying in ewc too guess champs would be the deciding factor in between t3xture or alfa but if team liquid win give it to keiko

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Texture leaf and alfa are the only names I think deserve it rn

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least obvious alt

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ok gamergirl

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Congo1

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Sky is blue

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Water is wet

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Fire is hot

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Fnc is ass

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Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

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noSananoLife

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GRASS IS GREEN

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Water is wet take Both are goats anyways

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sideshowsbaldhead

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weird recency bias circlejerk itt aspas >

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aspas cant be the goat he's never murdered a vlr user

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chronicle can’t be the goat he beefed with a random vlr user and barely won

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barely

https://www.vlr.gg/post/1875636/babysasuke

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sideshowsbaldhead

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overrated thread for an overrated player

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Found shitsuke alt

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Effluxi

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this explains a lot

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chron clears sry lil bro

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ynuser

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No good kr0 player so u are busy downplaying the Brazilian goat

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https://www.vlr.gg/459518/kr-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w1

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https://www.vlr.gg/428011/mibr-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-kickoff-lr4

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allat just to drop a stinker in toronto keke

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https://www.vlr.gg/371268/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/337413/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/371273/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/314652/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w5
https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/280446/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-argentina-game-show-cup-2023-showmatch
https://www.vlr.gg/183805/loud-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w5

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xdxdxdxdxdxdxd

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got you so pressed you went looking for allat 😭😭😭😭 keznit owns asspiss stay mad loser

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glittering_yard

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kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

it was not hard to look 😭

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https://www.vlr.gg/490313/team-liquid-vs-mibr-valorant-masters-2025-toronto-r2-0-1
https://www.vlr.gg/490306/gen-g-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2025-masters-toronto-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/430099/furia-vs-mibr-tixinha-invitational-by-bonoxs-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/353194/mibr-vs-furia-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/314630/kr-esports-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/232729/mibr-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-last-chance-qualifier-ur1

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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2 games from last month of a Masters Kr0 didnt qualify (lost to Aspas), and then a bunch of games where Kr0 is nowhere to be found, and then random games against MIBR with no Aspas jajajajajajaja

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m0br is garbage brochacho just move on 💔💔

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https://i.imgur.com/ykZZJh6.png

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what does this mean, im not familiar with british memes

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did him so dirty 😭😭

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obviously yeah

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noSananoLife

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WAIT TILL ASPAS FARM A RANDOM SHITTY NA TEAM AND PEOPLE START GLAZING HIM AGAIN

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Not before he baits at least one of his teammates every round he gets a kill lol.

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chosenvictor

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keep in mind he made this post after chronicle beat the 4th or 5th best team in his region

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Chronicle just had one of countless top rated player performances at back to back events...

No one does it like him

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chosenvictor

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chronicle and derke have the best longevity ill give you that but leo and alfajer are better at valorant

it was so obvious who were the real MVPs on fantic, you cant be in goat debates when youre not even the best player on your team, let alone the world for majority of your career

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Congo1

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Literally check every international event stats in history. In nearly all of them you will see chron right there at the top without any scrolling.

Its not just consistency. Just top quality

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chosenvictor

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no shit, hes like 5-7 all time, hes not bad

but hes not better at valorant than leo, sorry, go hold ur tincan trophies that leo was obviously way better in

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Was wasnt on the top long enough to beat chron. In 2023 he was better thats true

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Leo is good but compared to Chron he barely played

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Must be the water.

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We are checking

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i cannot debate this

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snow is white

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Say that again...

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I don't get why people back Aspas so much. He won Champions back in 2022, and I don't think he's been in a final since. I seriously don't get the hype—why all the glazing?

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He is the romanticized ideal of what people want the goat to be.

Exciting duelist hitting crazy flicks and moving aggressively & super fast. Highlight reel players.

Chronicle is just a machine in comparison with some psychopath plays and big clutches

Its a zywoo vs Simple debate but chronicle is much more ahead in this one

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How is derke still in the picture

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Jezy

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Chron on support > aspas on support no shit Sherlock what is this ragebait

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NBA analysts disrespecting Kobe vs the players themselves moment:

https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see/#1

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retweet

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grass is green ahh take