chronicle > aspas
chronicle > aspas
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not even a debate lol
the debate for goat of valorant is now between Chron and Derke (Chron is winning rn though for sure)
sideshowsbaldhead [#7]weird recency bias circlejerk itt aspas >
aspas cant be the goat he's never murdered a vlr user
WAIT TILL ASPAS FARM A RANDOM SHITTY NA TEAM AND PEOPLE START GLAZING HIM AGAIN
sideshowsbaldhead [#7]weird recency bias circlejerk itt aspas >
chron clears sry lil bro
sentinelmain377 [#2]not even a debate lol
the debate for goat of valorant is now between Chron and Derke (Chron is winning rn though for sure)
both have never been the best player in the world, chronicle and derke werent even top 2 on fnatic when they won trophies
but somehow above leo and alfa
noSananoLife [#10]WAIT TILL ASPAS FARM A RANDOM SHITTY NA TEAM AND PEOPLE START GLAZING HIM AGAIN
Not before he baits at least one of his teammates every round he gets a kill lol.
noSananoLife [#10]WAIT TILL ASPAS FARM A RANDOM SHITTY NA TEAM AND PEOPLE START GLAZING HIM AGAIN
keep in mind he made this post after chronicle beat the 4th or 5th best team in his region
I don't get why people back Aspas so much. He won Champions back in 2022, and I don't think he's been in a final since. I seriously don't get the hype—why all the glazing?
chosenvictor [#17]keep in mind he made this post after chronicle beat the 4th or 5th best team in his region
Chronicle just had one of countless top rated player performances at back to back events...
No one does it like him
AddyVoid_7 [#20]I don't get why people back Aspas so much. He won Champions back in 2022, and I don't think he's been in a final since. I seriously don't get the hype—why all the glazing?
He is the romanticized ideal of what people want the goat to be.
Exciting duelist hitting crazy flicks and moving aggressively & super fast. Highlight reel players.
Chronicle is just a machine in comparison with some psychopath plays and big clutches
Its a zywoo vs Simple debate but chronicle is much more ahead in this one
Congo1 [#21]Chronicle just had one of countless top rated player performances at back to back events...
No one does it like him
chronicle and derke have the best longevity ill give you that but leo and alfajer are better at valorant
it was so obvious who were the real MVPs on fantic, you cant be in goat debates when youre not even the best player on your team, let alone the world for majority of your career
chosenvictor [#13]both have never been the best player in the world, chronicle and derke werent even top 2 on fnatic when they won trophies
but somehow above leo and alfa
i have a genuine question. when has aspas been the best player and for how long did that last? 2022 was yay, 2023 was leo/alfa/demon1, 2024 was t3xture, and so far 2025 has been alfa or leaf. if ur argument is that aspas is the goat, ur case makes no sense to me, but if ur tryna say its someone else then im intrigued.
CDXCLEARSU [#24]i have a genuine question. when has aspas been the best player and for how long did that last? 2022 was yay, 2023 was leo/alfa/demon1, 2024 was t3xture, and so far 2025 has been alfa or leaf. if ur argument is that aspas is the goat, ur case makes no sense to me, but if ur tryna say its someone else then im intrigued.
i think aspas was the best player in the world in 2023 and 2024, but even if he wasnt and you wanna hold his worse team against him
i think nats and aspas are 1/2 and alfa and leo are 3/4, but thats because i dont think chronicle or derke can do what nats or aspas have done, which is be leaders on teams and actually be the main man
nats was the main guy on gambit and is the main guy on liquid, aspas was the main man in 2023, went to LEV and was a carry job on a top 3 team itw, then went to MIBR and is a top 3 team in the region with nothing but rookies and overlooked players
i dont think chronicle and derke can do that, considering derke with a superteam has failed to do that(to his credit not his fault), and we havent seen chronicle play on another team yet
chosenvictor [#25]i think aspas was the best player in the world in 2023 and 2024, but even if he wasnt and you wanna hold his worse team against him
i think nats and aspas are 1/2 and alfa and leo are 3/4, but thats because i dont think chronicle or derke can do what nats or aspas have done, which is be leaders on teams and actually be the main man
nats was the main guy on gambit and is the main guy on liquid, aspas was the main man in 2023, went to LEV and was a carry job on a top 3 team itw, then went to MIBR and is a top 3 team in the region with nothing but rookies and overlooked players
i dont think chronicle and derke can do that, considering derke with a superteam has failed to do that(to his credit not his fault), and we havent seen chronicle play on another team yet
2023 no he wasnt, leo alfa and demon1 all have better cases
2024 NO he wasnt, kangkang, texture, tenz, woot, reins all have better cases
idkmanwth [#26]2023 no he wasnt, leo alfa and demon1 all have better cases
2024 NO he wasnt, kangkang, texture, tenz, woot, reins all have better cases
swap aspas with derke kangkang wo0t or demon1 and he does better than any of them
just retarded posting, compare the teams
its like saying messi is shit because he plays with inter miami
chosenvictor [#27]swap aspas with derke kangkang wo0t or demon1 and he does better than any of them
just retarded posting, compare the teams
its like saying messi is shit because he plays with inter miami
does he though? he was in a stacked loud team and clearly wasnt their best player, fairs his lev stint was nice but still not GOD level, his mibr stint has been very poor
idkmanwth [#28]does he though? he was in a stacked loud team and clearly wasnt their best player, fairs his lev stint was nice but still not GOD level, his mibr stint has been very poor
his mibr stint has been very poor carrying a team full of rookies and overlooked players to top 3 in the region
are u real?
if aspas failed with this vitality team like derke did he wouldnt even be considered top 5 in goat debates
chosenvictor [#27]swap aspas with derke kangkang wo0t or demon1 and he does better than any of them
just retarded posting, compare the teams
its like saying messi is shit because he plays with inter miami
Youre just biased my guy. Aspas never had a nr.1 year. Similar to chron he was just regularly in the top 5 for years
chosenvictor [#29]his mibr stint has been very poor carrying a team full of rookies and overlooked players to top 3 in the region
are u real?
if aspas failed with this vitality team like derke did he wouldnt even be considered top 5 in goat debates
carrying? bro he IS the one being carried in so many games for mibr lol
Congo1 [#30]Youre just biased my guy. Aspas never had a nr.1 year. Similar to chron he was just regularly in the top 5 for years
never had a #1 year only to trophy cocksuckers if he joined superteams like bumicle hed have more trophies
instead my goat nats and aspas joins teams for vibes and money hes not insecure enough to run to win trophies with actual goats like leo and alfa
chosenvictor [#23]chronicle and derke have the best longevity ill give you that but leo and alfajer are better at valorant
it was so obvious who were the real MVPs on fantic, you cant be in goat debates when youre not even the best player on your team, let alone the world for majority of your career
Literally check every international event stats in history. In nearly all of them you will see chron right there at the top without any scrolling.
Its not just consistency. Just top quality
lxolotl [#31]carrying? bro he IS the one being carried in so many games for mibr lol
https://www.vlr.gg/488020/100-thieves-vs-mibr-esports-world-cup-2025-decider
https://www.vlr.gg/475908/mibr-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-lbf
chosenvictor [#29]his mibr stint has been very poor carrying a team full of rookies and overlooked players to top 3 in the region
are u real?
if aspas failed with this vitality team like derke did he wouldnt even be considered top 5 in goat debates
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his road to top 3 was 100t and kru and then lost both the matches (and the region is the second worst), eg were better than mibr during stage 1 but didnt get to face them, current nrg clears mibr from the way they looked at toronto
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carrying a team full of rookies is just not true when you were the 3rd lowest rated player in the tournament while the "rookie" was one of the high rated players
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derke had to literally play with sayf as igl, and even with that he won vitality rounds by just purely aim diffing the other team
Congo1 [#33]Literally check every international event stats in history. In nearly all of them you will see chron right there at the top without any scrolling.
Its not just consistency. Just top quality
no shit, hes like 5-7 all time, hes not bad
but hes not better at valorant than leo, sorry, go hold ur tincan trophies that leo was obviously way better in
chosenvictor [#32]never had a #1 year only to trophy cocksuckers if he joined superteams like bumicle hed have more trophies
instead my goat nats and aspas joins teams for vibes and money hes not insecure enough to run to win trophies with actual goats like leo and alfa
nobody's stopping him from joining superteams like g2 and fnatic though. there's a reason the both teams with chronicle are considered superteams by everyone
idkmanwth [#36]
his road to top 3 was 100t and kru and then lost both the matches (and the region is the second worst), eg were better than mibr during stage 1 but didnt get to face them, current nrg clears mibr from the way they looked at toronto
carrying a team full of rookies is just not true when you were the 3rd lowest rated player in the tournament while the "rookie" was one of the high rated players
derke had to literally play with sayf as igl, and even with that he won vitality rounds by just purely aim diffing the other team
artzin is the igl on mibr vro, i never said he wasnt shit at toronto, but theyve played more games than that, and im p sure mibr beat eg in ewc quals, and current nrg are just online merchants
halt the cope please
or atleast wait for chronicle to do something without superteam like aspas has
idkmanwth [#40]nobody's stopping him from joining superteams like g2 and fnatic though. there's a reason the both teams with chronicle are considered superteams by everyone
you think chronicle is the reason fnatic was a superteam
wut
cant even argue with this level of autism, fnatic fans genuinely dont watch their own games because how on earth is a guy who was the third or fourth best on his own team getting goat shouts brev
chosenvictor [#41]artzin is the igl on mibr vro, i never said he wasnt shit at toronto, but theyve played more games than that, and im p sure mibr beat eg in ewc quals, and current nrg are just online merchants
halt the cope please
or atleast wait for chronicle to do something without superteam like aspas has
bro deadass aint nobody stopping aspas from joining superteams, and chronicle wont do anything without superteams because all the teams he would get offers from would be superteams because he's that important lol
chosenvictor [#42]you think chronicle is the reason fnatic was a superteam
wut
cant even argue with this level of autism, fnatic fans genuinely dont watch their own games because how on earth is a guy who was the third or fourth best on his own team getting goat shouts brev
whatever helps you sleep at night buddy, keep fighting for aspas, people are starting to see the light and there's nothing you can do about it
chosenvictor [#42]you think chronicle is the reason fnatic was a superteam
wut
cant even argue with this level of autism, fnatic fans genuinely dont watch their own games because how on earth is a guy who was the third or fourth best on his own team getting goat shouts brev
Yes. He was the biggest name that joined FNC in 2023. Him and Derke were nominally the top players of the team.
xdxdxdxdxdxdxd [#11]chron clears sry lil bro
No good kr0 player so u are busy downplaying the Brazilian goat
chosenvictor [#37]no shit, hes like 5-7 all time, hes not bad
but hes not better at valorant than leo, sorry, go hold ur tincan trophies that leo was obviously way better in
Was wasnt on the top long enough to beat chron. In 2023 he was better thats true
idkmanwth [#44]whatever helps you sleep at night buddy, keep fighting for aspas, people are starting to see the light and there's nothing you can do about it
things will be back to normal when fnatic shits the bed at champs again and chronicle goes -20 against aspas even with a superteam
chosenvictor [#50]things will be back to normal when fnatic shits the bed at champs again and chronicle goes -20 against aspas even with a superteam
against aspas, lil bro thinks they're making it to champs LMFAO, aspas is getting farmed by nrg, sen g2 and eg lil bro
Congo1 [#45]Yes. He was the biggest name that joined FNC in 2023. Him and Derke were nominally the top players of the team.
i mean sure when they joined, but the second they actually played it was clear who's team it was and who was along for the ride lol..
yall can have this, we all know what happens at champs between chronicle and aspas so we can just wait for the "goat" to get humiliated even with a superteam
glittering_yard [#49]https://www.vlr.gg/428011/mibr-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-kickoff-lr4
allat just to drop a stinker in toronto keke
ynuser [#47]No good kr0 player so u are busy downplaying the Brazilian goat
https://www.vlr.gg/459518/kr-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-w1
chosenvictor [#13]both have never been the best player in the world, chronicle and derke werent even top 2 on fnatic when they won trophies
but somehow above leo and alfa
least obvious alt
chosenvictor [#13]both have never been the best player in the world, chronicle and derke werent even top 2 on fnatic when they won trophies
but somehow above leo and alfa
ok gamergirl
xdxdxdxdxdxdxd [#53]allat just to drop a stinker in toronto keke
https://www.vlr.gg/371268/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/337413/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/371273/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/314652/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w5
https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/280446/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-argentina-game-show-cup-2023-showmatch
https://www.vlr.gg/183805/loud-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w5
glittering_yard [#58]https://www.vlr.gg/371268/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/337413/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/371273/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/314652/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w5
https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/280446/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-argentina-game-show-cup-2023-showmatch
https://www.vlr.gg/183805/loud-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w5
got you so pressed you went looking for allat 😭😭😭😭 keznit owns asspiss stay mad loser
chosenvictor [#37]no shit, hes like 5-7 all time, hes not bad
but hes not better at valorant than leo, sorry, go hold ur tincan trophies that leo was obviously way better in
Leo is good but compared to Chron he barely played
xdxdxdxdxdxdxd [#59]got you so pressed you went looking for allat 😭😭😭😭 keznit owns asspiss stay mad loser
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
it was not hard to look 😭
glittering_yard [#61]kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
it was not hard to look 😭
https://www.vlr.gg/490313/team-liquid-vs-mibr-valorant-masters-2025-toronto-r2-0-1
https://www.vlr.gg/490306/gen-g-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2025-masters-toronto-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/430099/furia-vs-mibr-tixinha-invitational-by-bonoxs-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/353194/mibr-vs-furia-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/314630/kr-esports-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/232729/mibr-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-last-chance-qualifier-ur1
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Effluxi [#9]aspas cant be the goat he's never murdered a vlr user
chronicle can’t be the goat he beefed with a random vlr user and barely won
xdxdxdxdxdxdxd [#63]https://www.vlr.gg/490313/team-liquid-vs-mibr-valorant-masters-2025-toronto-r2-0-1
https://www.vlr.gg/490306/gen-g-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2025-masters-toronto-r1
https://www.vlr.gg/430099/furia-vs-mibr-tixinha-invitational-by-bonoxs-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/353194/mibr-vs-furia-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/314630/kr-esports-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/232729/mibr-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-last-chance-qualifier-ur1kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2 games from last month of a Masters Kr0 didnt qualify (lost to Aspas), and then a bunch of games where Kr0 is nowhere to be found, and then random games against MIBR with no Aspas jajajajajajaja
glittering_yard [#66]2 games from last month of a Masters Kr0 didnt qualify (lost to Aspas), and then a bunch of games where Kr0 is nowhere to be found, and then random games against MIBR with no Aspas jajajajajajaja
m0br is garbage brochacho just move on 💔💔
glittering_yard [#58]https://www.vlr.gg/371268/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/337413/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lr1
https://www.vlr.gg/371273/leviat-n-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/314652/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w5
https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf
https://www.vlr.gg/280446/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-argentina-game-show-cup-2023-showmatch
https://www.vlr.gg/183805/loud-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w5
Aayan [#68]
what does this mean, im not familiar with british memes
NBA analysts disrespecting Kobe vs the players themselves moment:
https://www.vlr.gg/487902/there-are-none-so-blind-as-those-who-will-not-see/#1
CDXCLEARSU [#24]i have a genuine question. when has aspas been the best player and for how long did that last? 2022 was yay, 2023 was leo/alfa/demon1, 2024 was t3xture, and so far 2025 has been alfa or leaf. if ur argument is that aspas is the goat, ur case makes no sense to me, but if ur tryna say its someone else then im intrigued.
2025 IMO is t3xture, i think top 5 at toronto even tho his team choked and lost out, nd hes destroying in ewc too guess champs would be the deciding factor in between t3xture or alfa but if team liquid win give it to keiko
sideshowsbaldhead [#64]chronicle can’t be the goat he beefed with a random vlr user and barely won
barely
Effluxi [#73]barely
overrated thread for an overrated player
vexdia [#72]2025 IMO is t3xture, i think top 5 at toronto even tho his team choked and lost out, nd hes destroying in ewc too guess champs would be the deciding factor in between t3xture or alfa but if team liquid win give it to keiko
Texture leaf and alfa are the only names I think deserve it rn
chosenvictor [#25]i think aspas was the best player in the world in 2023 and 2024, but even if he wasnt and you wanna hold his worse team against him
i think nats and aspas are 1/2 and alfa and leo are 3/4, but thats because i dont think chronicle or derke can do what nats or aspas have done, which is be leaders on teams and actually be the main man
nats was the main guy on gambit and is the main guy on liquid, aspas was the main man in 2023, went to LEV and was a carry job on a top 3 team itw, then went to MIBR and is a top 3 team in the region with nothing but rookies and overlooked players
i dont think chronicle and derke can do that, considering derke with a superteam has failed to do that(to his credit not his fault), and we havent seen chronicle play on another team yet
#1 we've seen chron be a top player on a dominant team (gmb)
#2 we've seen derke be a top player on a top team (2021, 2022, 2024, 2025)
#3 aspas always plays crazy in regional and then his performance gets worse in international events.
#4 aspas is the only duelist to win an event being the lowest rated player on his team. The reason I mention that is because yall say derke got carried when yall don't say that for aspas, and derke played better his two wins than aspas did in his 1.
sideshowsbaldhead [#76]overrated thread for an overrated player
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