tbf its extremely biased to call ewc mickey when optic literally won a trophy when an undisputed top 3 team itw wasnt allowed to attend

not every tournament is perfect but in terms of validity, it objectively can't be last

i mean sure when they joined, but the second they actually played it was clear who's team it was and who was along for the ride lol..

yall can have this, we all know what happens at champs between chronicle and aspas so we can just wait for the "goat" to get humiliated even with a superteam

things will be back to normal when fnatic shits the bed at champs again and chronicle goes -20 against aspas even with a superteam

you think chronicle is the reason fnatic was a superteam

wut

cant even argue with this level of autism, fnatic fans genuinely dont watch their own games because how on earth is a guy who was the third or fourth best on his own team getting goat shouts brev

artzin is the igl on mibr vro, i never said he wasnt shit at toronto, but theyve played more games than that, and im p sure mibr beat eg in ewc quals, and current nrg are just online merchants

halt the cope please

or atleast wait for chronicle to do something without superteam like aspas has

two last bo5s hes played retard

no shit, hes like 5-7 all time, hes not bad

but hes not better at valorant than leo, sorry, go hold ur tincan trophies that leo was obviously way better in

https://www.vlr.gg/488020/100-thieves-vs-mibr-esports-world-cup-2025-decider
https://www.vlr.gg/475908/mibr-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2025-americas-stage-1-lbf

https://media1.tenor.com/m/t6EWYLZnrygAAAAd/bike-wojak.gif

never had a #1 year only to trophy cocksuckers if he joined superteams like bumicle hed have more trophies

instead my goat nats and aspas joins teams for vibes and money hes not insecure enough to run to win trophies with actual goats like leo and alfa

his mibr stint has been very poor carrying a team full of rookies and overlooked players to top 3 in the region

are u real?

if aspas failed with this vitality team like derke did he wouldnt even be considered top 5 in goat debates

schizo poster spotted

aspas has been top 3 at champs 3 times vro

swap aspas with derke kangkang wo0t or demon1 and he does better than any of them

just retarded posting, compare the teams

its like saying messi is shit because he plays with inter miami

i think aspas was the best player in the world in 2023 and 2024, but even if he wasnt and you wanna hold his worse team against him

i think nats and aspas are 1/2 and alfa and leo are 3/4, but thats because i dont think chronicle or derke can do what nats or aspas have done, which is be leaders on teams and actually be the main man

nats was the main guy on gambit and is the main guy on liquid, aspas was the main man in 2023, went to LEV and was a carry job on a top 3 team itw, then went to MIBR and is a top 3 team in the region with nothing but rookies and overlooked players

i dont think chronicle and derke can do that, considering derke with a superteam has failed to do that(to his credit not his fault), and we havent seen chronicle play on another team yet

chronicle and derke have the best longevity ill give you that but leo and alfajer are better at valorant

it was so obvious who were the real MVPs on fantic, you cant be in goat debates when youre not even the best player on your team, let alone the world for majority of your career

t1 and talon fans are the MAGA of APAC

keep in mind he made this post after chronicle beat the 4th or 5th best team in his region

both have never been the best player in the world, chronicle and derke werent even top 2 on fnatic when they won trophies

but somehow above leo and alfa

obviously the whole point of esports is to drive viewership, but thats a completely different issue than the validity of the tournament

i think you think players go up there and care about how bad the observers are, but they dont, but the deeper technical issues are obviously a bit weird

also, with riot and ewc, the fans dont really fund the prize money, im pretty sure riot and saudi always lose money in valorant at this stage, if riot is breaking even its because of in-game bundles and stuff

still wouldve been two, just kc and bbl not heretics and fnatic

although heretics might beat geng

lewn generational stinker 0-7 fk

i cant even remember if all his deaths were his fault but i always felt like this team would make a decent international push then crumble their first time

they all have no experience, hopefully if they make champs theyre ready

zellsis is a better midrounder than johnqt and its going to be a pain in the ass to replace him

sentinels only look like a real team when zellsis is in the pack and is (presumably) contributing to calls

johnqt might be the igl and he may have the pre-round calls, be the leader, etc but the team looks like horse shit when hes in the pack, not a coincidence

i think prx beats every team itw rn but besides for that its pretty open between all regions

okay so, as of rn we're getting heretics vs gen and fnc vs prx anyways

the way i say it we get those matchups first, then another set of different matchups

obv theyd prob lose but thats lyfe

its more just that, with it being single elim the emphasis should be on making inter-region matchups

not for competitive integrity but for the viewers

at the end u gotta beat every team to win, but id rather have seen nrg vs kc than kc vs fnatic for the 3rd time

FNC PRX

HER GEN

BBL NRG

KC SEN

wouldve been perfect brackets

idc about the tech pauses or how shit the stream is

but why the fuck are you sabotaging emea like this

was there no way to do new matchups while also not doing regional matchups

shouldve been all emea top 4

emea has the best future of any league rn

meme team gets reality check

okay, so imagine you and your friends are all playing ranked, but youre in the same home

you all still play on ranked ping even if youre in the same place

offline servers dont have to connect to riot infrastructure, some pros said they have 20-30 ping which means they are going through riots online anticheat and other servers

its easily heretics, but even if they were its literally a stacked tournament being the worst still places them top 10 itw

johnqt is on smokes and initiator, he should be perma senti/viper

well yeah vct but i think both have done a few like ascension stuff

either way idk who the rest of the observers are, no way theres only two per game, maybe thats the issue

i get wys but compared to other rosters, like KC might not have the same starpower as vitality but i think the fact they had an established igl and coach made them just as competitive

makes sense tbh zellsis is sometimes really good through sheer willpower

like map 5 vs geng, literally made no sense for sen to win that or for zellsis to be the reason why

pretty sure these are the same observers as riot events

players definitely influence comps and johnqt has definitely said several times that he wants to call in the pack

+saadhak exists

personal stuff doesnt dictate the comps theyre playing

one of the best igls ever with one of the best coaches ever and one of the most stacked rosters itw

pretty obvious

johnego or kraplan

just genuinely hilarious watching sentinels good sentinel play a shitty breach and watching their good breach play a mediocre sentinel

yeah the koi/apeks group is easiest easily

idk what this guy yapping about

watch fnc or tl not finish top 3

bro said th

hes gonna drop 500k on buyouts this offseason

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when leo plays safe and smart hes the goat when verno does it hes inflating rating

i agree that both are favored by rating, but verno is still midrounding and shooting well on one of the best teams in americas

hating is just wild

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2282/valorant-masters-toronto-2025
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2347/vct-2025-americas-stage-1

How is this a fair game?
Bang is jetlagged!!
N4RRATE is homesick!
Zellsis didnt get his double cheeseburger in the morning!
Zekken is missing his GF!
JohnQt needs AC set at 23.5 degrees instead of 24!
If EWC was truly fair they would replay this match
#SENCITY #ROB_MOORE_MY_GOAT

no but he has literally 3 matches played all year

lewn and vernois having a better season than lukxo, even tho lukxo is good

verno and lewn have been to internationals and have been decent