will be much harder to win than lock in, bigger prize for first than toronto
to the players it will be just as important, but the fans will act like it doesnt matter because it doesnt fit an agenda </3 ripperoni
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lockin was mickeymouse because no quals and single elim the entire way through,
iceland 2022 is mickeymouse because of visa issues
what is mickey mouse about this
there is literally nothing that detracts from this tournament, you might not like the format, but its merit based unlike lockin, no meta changes like lockin, much bigger prize pool than lock in, no teams or players are missing like iceland 2022 (FPX and part of fnatic) there are no teams with major changes - just a few minor changes
from a competitive and monetary standpoint this tournament is huge, its hosted by saudis, yeah, but saudis run every major in CSGO too, are csgo majors not majors either?
the schedule hurts the asian teams (champs qualifying stage vs off season event), the qualifiers hurt the 3rd seed from regions as they had to prepare for both toronto and ewc (different patches), the qualifier was online in the big 2025, some teams didnt even have the full roster (traded in a "major" qualifier)
im not trying to hating, sorry, its the truth, the two best EMEA teams were facing several issues and one just didn't attend
the objectivity of determining the best team in the world at the time reykjavik took place was skewed because of politics
nothing similar is happening at the ewc
Genuine question, why does not having qualifications make a tournament Mickey Mouse? Every possible team was at lock in, and it doesn’t mean the good teams weren’t there.
because its a single elim where most teams were playing with some if not entirely new rosters on stage, navi was a top 4 team and wasnt even top 3 in EMEA the rest of the year - simply because they hadn't changed their roster
Liquid lost immediately - embarassingly, but they were the first team to beat fnatic
No kickoff, no group stage, just single elim all the way
It's just not equity to not have stage time for all teams prior to be thrown into single elim knockout rounds
I'm not saying lock in is worthless, but it lacks the same competitive edge that other events have, you cant tell me results would be the same if they played a kickoff instead of just inviting all teams to show off franchising
what? mickeymouse tournament actual term is all tournament outside the main one
lock//in was mickey mouse because it didn't allow being inconsistent and had the most teams participating out of any tournament in VCT history? yeah ok makes sense.
Have EWC reward teams with VCT circuit points should solve that issue ya?
(16 teams EWC less prestigious than 8 teams Masters just doesn’t feel right).
Kinda yeah. Make it an official event with champs circuit points and also improve the format and schedule.
ah yes, the only reason ppl have for not caring abt ewc as much is having an agenda. get a job you fucking dolt lol
or they can just not like the timing, or not like the format? it doesn't have to be an agenda. it ain't that deep lil girl.
i think you misunderstand the word agenda and have an issue with me because of it, because when i made this post, i was referring to the things like things like timing/format not political agenda
an agenda is just a plan for talking points
i know very well what the word agenda means. i don't give af abt you one iota and so i would never waste my time having an 'issue' with you. be so fucking fr though bc everyone knows what you meant with the word 'agenda.' you're not always the smartest person in the room sweetheart.
you don't have to reply especially if you dont have an opinion to share - which is why i am yapping about the ewc again
learn that u have no enemies bro nobody forces anyone to reply online to strangers, you're just offended in one way or another
i am just curious especially because u were complaining about valorant partnering w ewc 3 months ago and were trying to boycott it.
learn that u dont have to treat every reply like they are a personal op to you
unless the players are getting cheap salaries from their org, it really isnt that special and just another mickey mouse tournament. orgs, however, DO care a lot about the results in ewc, that much is true.
Its harder to win for teams that went top 4 in masters 2 (except g2 since they can abandon stage 2 )
Teams that dont qualify or went out early have all the time and break they need to practice and change rosters and possibly won this tourney
More money cause of saudi wealth.
Teams who went top 4 in toronto will just act like this is a good scrim with bonus money
The qualifier even feels like forced ( BO 1 into single BO 3 ) top 2 just qualify from stage 1
TLDR
Important depends on how good or bad your team performs in stage 1 and masters toronto.
Its harder to win for teams that went top 4 in masters 2
Wrong mindset. It should be:
"look at these plebs that can't even make Toronto, we're Masters winner, all these teams are EASYYYYY, we're gonna destroy all these teams without even trying. PRX fans SHOULD be having this mindset rn.
hard disagree. all these teams have varying prep times despite qualing off the same "merit".
china teams literally have to play a game for vct cn then travel to riyadh with 2-3 days to get accustomed while every other team can bootcamp there.
to qual through uppers of groups you have to win two games in the same day with like less than an hour between matches if you go 3 maps.
no crowd, no in game reward for winning, horrible scheduling, horrible format, teams being rewarded for missing masters because they didnt have to show any of their new comps/teams that went deep in the tournament get shafted as well, no prep time for second match.
i would argue it is formatted worse than lock//in.
the only redeeming quality is that the prize pool is so large that it will help teams stay afloat financially.
+1, qualification systems were also quite strange especially with variance across different regions. Riot specifically made it so this event would not be as prestigious by not integrating it into the VCT circuit, I would agree with keeping it as off-season if we HAVE to keep it around.
for me, as long the broadcast quality can be as good as official riot international, i would watch, but im not suprise if the broadcast will looks like potato or even a major tech pause happen
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