Brief summary from Spiketalk (copied from Reddit)
2 parts, beef part and scrims part
1) Beef part
Listened to the first 45 mins ish, FrosT is basically explaining on his perspective that leads up to this incident which started since the beginning of 2024.
-FrosT clear up that this about personal beef between him and Termi, not about scrimleaks.
-FrosT and Termi first meeting was on the TIMEOUT content shoot 2024 and it was not great. Termi ignores his hand shake 2 times.
-Ever since that incident, FrosT has been getting nasty comments and little jabs here and there from Termi from time to time. He tries to ignore those and let it be, but at certain point he has enough and decided to match the energy, which result in the handshake incident. Where he said "he just matching the energy to what Termi has been showing him for all this time" and he think that it's funny that now it's a problem.
-There was a fist bump incident like this happened earlier between them, but there was no big deal that has been made out of it, so why now?
-He felt like if it's the reverse, he would be getting burn for it if he ever tried to do mudslinging comments like Termi did, which he said he never did until this day.
-He said if both party don't respect each other, then why should he fist bump with the other party?
-He has been the party that has been taking insults, and now he fought back and now people are mad, which he thinks is a little bit unfair.
There are more nuanced stuff and details and context in the podcasts, i would reccomend atleast watching this first 45 mins part of the podcast which is where he directly address this topics.
2) Scrims part
here for some of you doesn't want to hear unc yapping
Scrim Sharing Discussion by Frost on SpikeTalk Ep. 39
Before sending hate to anyone involved, I beg you to listen to both sides of the story. Whether you love or hate Frost, please hear his perspective.
- Frost tried to form a coalition to address the scrim Sharing problem, involving DRX and another VCT organization. Many teams have faced this issue, but no one took action. Frost asked teams to gather evidence and send it to Riot Games. DRX shared insights, suggesting a Korean team was involved, but no one else wanted to tackle the problem. Frost felt like he was the only one pushing for a solution, which overlapped unfortunately with the Termi-Frost drama.
-Frost discussed the issue with Riot, but they brushed it off. One Riot representative said, “We’re not sure we’ll do anything about it because it’s opening a can of worms.” After VCT Champs 2024, Frost shared evidence with Riot again, and they claimed it would be a priority in the offseason. However, nothing has been done, despite everyone acknowledging the problem.
-Frost clarified that the issue involves a Korean team, but this doesn’t mean he hates Koreans. Korean teams make up a large portion of the league, so issues like scrim Sharing can seem more prominent due to their numbers. Some misinterpreted Frost’s comments as anti-Korean, but he insists he’s protecting the region by addressing the issue fairly.
-Frost confronted someone (possibly Termi or a Riot representative) about why he’s being criticized. He was told it’s because he keeps pointing to Korean teams, but Frost argues his claims are based on evidence. He’s frustrated that everyone knows scrim sharing are a problem, yet no one unites to fix it. Frost agrees with Termi, who admitted to being a victim of scrim sharing, and wonders why Termi isn’t asked for proof or scrutinized like he is. Frost feels there’s a double standard
-Frost doesn’t want to publicly call out teams or ruin careers, as seen in past incidents like the iBuyPower match-fixing scandal in CS:GO. Instead, he wants Riot to establish clear rules to prevent scrim sharing . He believes if all teams—victims and perpetrators—came forward with proof, Riot could take meaningful action. Exhausted by the lack of progress, Frost said he’s done fighting for this issue, as he feels powerless to change anything.
To Korean fans and others commenting on Frost’s video: please watch the episode or read this summary before judging. Some comments demand proof without engaging with the discussion, which misses the point. Frost is trying to address a real problem, not create drama. Let’s listen and discuss properly.
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